I am going to be touring Ohio next week (July 15-20) and if the new laws go through it may be somewhat of a farewell tour to all the titty bars that will become air dance saloons. There are many experts on the Ohio scene (Smirnov et. al), and I was wondering about a recommended list of grind shacks to visit. I was thinking: Fantasyland in Bucyrus - even though my last visit was less than stellar Palace in the Pines - almost always a good time Cleveland? Foxs Den? never been there Million Dollar Saloon? sounds kinda thuggish
Advice please? Your thoughts?


treetopsman - According to the Columbus Dispatch, the effective date for the Ohio Senate Bill 16 is Sept. 4th. You still have plenty of time.
Being in Ohio now for half a year, here is my recommendation on Ohio clubs based on my visits:
Elyria, Ohio - Bugsy's Speakeasy - listed as bikini bar, but don't let that fool you; evilcyn bartends and dances at this club - ask for Cyn; champaigne room can be a good experience with the right dancer; price segments are based on 20-40-60 minute sessions; can us VISA/MC for the room; 20 minutes from Cleveland, via I-80 toll road (50 cents) westbound from I-71, exit Elyria; easy to find; My rating for a laid back bar/club with cute girls from 1 to 10 is 7.5.
Cleveland, Ohio - GiGi Lounge - small but cozy - $10 laps - never got extras, but the girls grind good like at the Hip Hugger in Kokomo, IN - outside pants rubbing - some outtake available - dancers' drinks same as your price. Good club to get warmed up. Afternoon or evening is good - get table in corner to the right as you enter the club, best concealment.
Cleveland, Ohio - Fox's Den - small clean dive - $10 laps - dancers' drinks $6 on up - open LD area, but doesn't stop the girls from doing what they want to do to you, as management is aware but doesn't interfer - can get lotioned up bareback handjobs by most dancers for purchase of a drink and a small tip, takes place in booths against the back wall - lot of locals visit so you might have to wait for a girl to free up - early afternoon is best.
Columbus, Ohio - stay away, as no touch laws are strictly enforced by ALL the clubs here - don't waste your time or gas.
Dayton, Ohio - has a few good clubs where extras can be sought but at a high price.
Medway, Ohio - Off I-70 between Columbus and Dayton - best hidden nude establishment between the two cities - opens late, usually 7PM or 8PM - $10 nude laps in LD area, semi-private - all cute young dancers - non-alcoholic drinks and pizza - friendly staff.
Those are my Ohio picks. Read my reviews on all of them, collect names. Good luck and be sure to give us good lengthy reviews. :-)