Chaos Magick

I only partially go along with any of this stuff. But that is why I am reading so much as I need to understand much better.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

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From the Horus-Maat site

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Yes, like some of the Chaos Magick people, Nema wants you to follow your own path, not have to be instructed by her people. No real rules, probably no fees.

Eventually to set up your own magical system.

Can't see much homage to Kenneth Grant, who she had been with.

Some homage to the Chaos Magick people. But mostly she cites Crowley books.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Certificate of Formation horusmaatlodge.com

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Statement of principles going back to 1974. No homage to Grant, just homage to Crowley. horusmaatlodge.com

I believe this is a Sex Magic group. As it seems to have no real rules, it cannot not be one. But yet to see any foregrounding of this. Grant was very foreground about Sex Magick and Tantra.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

From the back of Condensed Chaos, by Phil Hine:

" We live in a world subject to extensive and seemingly all-embracing systems of social and personal control that continually feed us the lie that we are each alone, helpless and powerless to effect change. But magic is a doorway through which we step into mystery, wildness and immanence. And magic is about change. Magic leads us into exhilaration and ecstasy; into insight and understanding; into changing ourselves and the world in which we participate. Through magic we may come to explore the possibilities of freedom. "

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Most occultism seems to support the Right, even if the practitioners do not seem to realize this. It is just like it is with religion, a political opiate.

And I feel that Chaos Magick pioneer Peter J. Carroll and some others make statements which support the Right.

But I read Phil Hine's Condensed Chaos and I do not see it that way. For one thing, Chaos Magick does not depend upon Traditionalism. And Hine had been long term editor of Chaos International.

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Originally Kubrick tried to make the movie. Did not make any progress. Spielberg had to take over. And he made some really clever changes to the story.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

This Phil Hine is really good.

Not really a link between non-linear dynamics (chaos theory) and quantum mechanics and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, but no matter. Hine is the most philosophically astute occult writer I have found to date.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

So the books Phil Hine is endorsing:

Amookos, Tantra Magick, 1990, also endorsed by Nema, not in libraries, not even in Amazon

This is it: amazon.com

Angerford & Lea, Thudersqueak 1987 Bey, Hakim T.A.Z. 1991, most well known book. Burroughs, William S., Exterminator! The Adding Machine Crowley, Aleister, The Book of Thoth, The Book of Lies Falorio, Linda, The Shadow Tarot, 1991, Headless Press Fries, Jan, Visual Magick, Helrunar Gleick, J. Chaos, 1987 Hofstader, D. Metamagical Themas, 1985 Hurley, J. Finley, Sorcery, 1985

See, they want nearly $600 for this. Very hard to get. amazon.com

Starfire Publishing, lots and lots of interesting links. starfirepublishing.co.uk

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Here, an ongoing Kenneth Grant blog kennethgrant.blogspot.com

Of Austin Osman Spare, he likes, The Book of Pleasure, 1975, but really 1913

here: The Book of Pleasure: The Psychology of Ecstasy

look at this cover: amazon.com

This Spare edition is published: Ethos: The Magical Writings of Austin Osman Spare - Micrologus, the Book of Pleasure, the Witches Sabbath, Mind to Mind and How by a Sorceror

Ethos: The Magical Writings of Austin Osman Spare - Micrologus, the Book of Pleasure, the Witches Sabbath, Mind to Mind and How by a Sorceror

Available to check out from libraries is mostly Austin Osman Spare : the occult life of London's legendary artist / Phil Baker ; foreword by Alan Moore.

And Alan Moore 1953: dodgemlogic.com

^^^^ Hundreds of books in libraries

Other books listed by Hine:

Sherwin, Ray, The Book of Results

^^^^ Not in libraries.

Starhawk, Dreaming the Dark,

Walsh, R. N. The Spirit of Shmanism

Wilson, Steve, Chaos Ritual, (Neptune, 1994)

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Phil Hine's "Condensed Chaos" is thoughtful and very well written. I wish there were more things I could just quote here, but it is so philosophically advanced that I find myself at a loss.

Got to read it yourselves.

Had not known about this, but it looks most interesting: amazon.com

These guys draw so much from Kenneth Grant, in my opinion, but they seem to disown him.

The acknowledge Aleister Crowley and Austin Osman Spare.

Here, from Peter J. Carroll's introduction, an idea which surprised me:

"The symbollic syncretism of the Golden Dawn a century ago, which fused renaissance Hermeticism with oriental esoterics drawn from European imperial experience, only fully flowered when Aleister Crowley added a battery of gnostic power techniques culled from diverse cultural sources. Then along came Austin Spare, who identified the basic sleight of mind techniques underlying all forms of magic, and showed us that we could treat the whole baroque symbolism of magic as entirely optional. Spare invented teh Postmodernist approach to magic well before the cultural advent of Existentialism or Postmodernism."

^^^^ awesome.

But I want to add, in opposition to these Chaos Magick sorts, that Chaos Theory, or Non-Linear Dynamics, do not draw from Quantum Mechanics or the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. And this is one area where their theorizing runs into troubles.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

page 27

The revolutions of Quantum Physics and Non-Linear Dynamics are now returning us to the awareness, long hidden, that the world is magical. That we are, as Alan Moore so eloquently put it, "unpredictable beyond the dreams of Heisenberg."

Not sure if I really agree with that.

But another good book:

p32

One of the most basic relationships is that of Self and Other; me and everything else; us and them. Even this relationship is informed by the dominant model of reality whichis based on nineteenth century notions such as the absolute separation of mind from matter ... and the distinction beween subjectivity and objectivity.

^^^ Now here Hine is really on to something important.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Hine and Carroll are a bit off in my view about quantum mechanics because while their is uncertainty, at the macroscopic level, everything still conforms to the laws of statistical thermodynamics.

That said though, quantum mechanics and non-linear dynamics (Chaos Theory) are extremely interesting.

page 33

Although science has more or less driven out the religious concept of an immortal soul, it still tends to make a distinction between inner and outer experience by upholding the Mind-Body divide -- "The Ghost in the Machine". Magical theories which, like scientific theories, were codified and generalized in the Nineteenth century, tend to reinforce this division to various degrees."

Hine is completely correct here. This is also why most Cognitive Science and Artificial Intelligence work has been bogus.

Then Hine goes on to say:

In contrast, Chaos supports the view that the Mind arises from the body.

This view though is the basic materialist view. It is not really the view of Religion, or of 19th Century Occultism either. I think Hine is missing something. But I also note that they are saying that Chaos Magick is compatible with Marxism. This would be the reason.

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Page 36

Power, Magical Power?

Bertrand Russell put it, "the ability to achieve intended effect".

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san_jose_guy5 years ago

Read up thru page 58, end of chapter 3, and lots of other stuff. Things changing on the ground!

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san_jose_guy4 years ago

Neema and Maat Magick are kind of precursors and co-participants in Chaos Magick.

So I list this here.

This book is new and it is impressive. Notice they have this Horus and Maat Magick Inner Council, so they are preparing for orderly succession.

lots of content on their web site.

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san_jose_guy4 years ago

In this area there lots of books which are hard to get. Esoteric and Occult subjects are where you find a very high interest in old books, and many of them are regularly republished. And there is only so much info available online. But this group has a huge web site.

Silver Star newsletter pdf 189 pages horusmaatlodge.com

color Nuit drawing used as dedication page!

Seems to be mostly short articles, illustrations, rituals, and poetry. Including two by Nema. Quite interesting, quite good.

Here they have a lot of previous issues. They use Crowley's name, EQUINOX.

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san_jose_guy4 years ago

So looking at their ABOUT The aim of the Horus/Maat Lodge is to manifest the Double Wanded God-dess. The energies available are the Double Currents of Horus and Maat.

Those who are not interested in Maat are invited to join with the Lodge anyway since the law is Do What Thou Wilt.

We are accomplishing the Great Work! Analysis and Synthesis.

The Horus Current of revolution and ecstasy, which was heralded through the Eye of Frater Perdurabo and others;

The Maat Current of mystery and mutation, which was heralded through the triangle of Soror Nema, Frater Achad, Frater Belarion and others.

( Soror Nema is the founder of the group. Frater Perdurabo is Aleister Crowley, Frater Achad was the guy in Vancouver to declared the Aeon of Maat, to counter balance Crowley's Aeon of Horus. )

Manifesto horusmaatlodge.com

Soror Andahadna (now known as Nema), Horus and Maat Magick Founder

11 Star Rite horusmaatlodge.com

Oh, its the 10 Sephiroth plus Da'ath to get 11.

They have text for each one: horusmaatlodge.com

Sister Order, QBLH horusmaatlodge.com

The current rite of 11 horusmaatlodge.com

Tantra, Alchemy, and True Love a man and woman in Yab Yum, shown from above under the thelemic symbol horusmaatlodge.com

Written by Nema

Although purists may complain, I see Eastern Tantra and Western Alchemy as two versions of the same thing: sex magick. Both can be employed to charge a ritual or general Working with tremendous power for causing change to occur in conformity with Will. I have occasionally encountered colleagues on the initiatory path, however, who dislike the idea of sex magick, seeing it as being a kind of prostitution of the deepest expression of love between partners.

In my own experience, Magick and love enhance each other; sex and love are not necessarily linked, nor are Magick and sex. Experienced mages, under ideal conditions, prefer the presence of all three factors, but not all are needed for the powers of Tantra and Alchemy to work. Some definitions might be useful at this point.

Aleister Crowley’s definition of Magick hasn’t been surpassed, in my opinion: “Magick is the Science and the Art of causing change to occur in conformity with Will.” This includes influencing the world around us as well as working on our own personal transformation. Tantra, again as I see it, is the prolongation of pre-orgasmic tension without strain to achieve ecstatic states of consciousness and personal disappearance. Alchemy is the direction of sexual tension and release to power willed change in the material world, as well as in more rarified worlds.

In Western Magick, Alchemy is considered on two levels: in the ancient physical sense of athanors, alblemics, the Philosopher’s Stone and the Elixir of Life, and in the sexual sense where the human body is a laboratory that can make properly charged elixirs. In general, Tantra seems more suitable for Inner exploration and the discovery of metaphysical information, while Alchemy seems designed more for the working of your will on your surroundings.

In either event, there are various ways of employing the benefits of sex magick in your path. The first approach presents few problems; autoeroticism is simpler and easier than working with a partner, even though it doesn’t provide the full spectrum of energy types that are divided between men and women. Homosexual workings need more research and reporting, but I would assume that the ethical considerations would apply.

Working in Tantra and Alchemy as an initiated, experienced couple is the default mode and best-case scenario. You have unity of purpose, familiarity with the way your bodies and spirits work together, and some degree of mastery of energy flow and of the directing of the magickal current(s) of the universe. Not only do you express your mutual love, but you send it beyond yourselves in shared will for the greater good. You can proceed equally well in Eastern and Western aspects of the Art, and you can work both spontaneously and deliberately.

There’s no essential conflict in this arrangement, and no inherent ethical problems. What do you do in the situation where you are a mage and your partner isn’t, though? Does Tantra or Alchemy intrude upon the attention and total engagement that your partner deserves? Not necessarily, when you’ve prepared a talisman or sigil and your word of power in advance for use at the right time. When passion moves the two of you to unite sexually, devote yourself to it completely. In the afterglow, when your partner drifts into sleep, briefly visit your altar, or have the symbol nearby, to anoint it with the elixir. A lover ignorant of Magick by that name is not being “used”, but is being cherished and held holy by the initiated lover, blessed and flooded by the essence of love under will.

To me, there’s no higher form of love-making than that imbued with Magick, and used with understanding and wisdom. It enhances, not encumbers. Love is the law-love under will.

Author’s note. The subjects of Tantra and Alchemy cover vast territory, even though they’re subdivisions of the even larger fields of Magick and Metaphysics. If you have a particular aspect of it you’d like to see opined upon, let our editor know. N.

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san_jose_guy4 years ago

I know of this book horusmaatlodge.com

this person is published with the Falcon Press in Phoenix horusmaatlodge.com

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Mate274 years ago

SJG how many hours have you been posting on this site today? Don’t you have an organization to run? How many members do you have to manage after starting this organization in 2014, tye year yiu started posting here?

san_jose_guy4 years ago

Things happen in stages, not all at once.

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The History of British Magic After Crowley Paperback – March 1, 2007 by Dave Evans (Author) amazon.com

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san_jose_guy3 years ago

Horus and Maat Lodge, Nema

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Crowley's Star Sapphire:

A study of Crowley's exposition of sex magick, his 'Ritual of the Star Sapphire' ("Liber XXXVI" or "Chapter 36" in "The Book of Lies")', with detailed instructions.

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san_jose_guy3 years ago

Ararita (Elaborations on the Star Sapphire) amazon.co.uk

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san_jose_guy3 years ago

The Color of Magic, by Terry Pratchett.

Finally have this in hand. This would be the first of about 40 fantasy novels for Pratchett.

This one introduced DISCWORLD, and this idea of the Chaos Start and its 8 Rays, each corresponding to a different color, or type of magic.

Peter J. Carroll started writing about Chaos Magick before this, but by his second book Liber Kaos, he had adopted Pratchett's 8 colors and Chaos Star.

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san_jose_guy3 years ago

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An Abbreviated Introduction to Chaos Magic themagicalbuffet.com

More generally speaking, some Chaos magicians use Carroll’s Eight Colors of Magick. Carroll uses different correspondences than Isaac Bonewits did in “Real Magic”, and assigns one color/type to each point of the eight-pointed chaostar. The correspondences are as follows:

Black: Death Blue: Wealth Green: Love Yellow: Ego Purple or Silver: Sex Orange: Thinking Red: War Octarine: “Pure” Magic

Octarine is the name Terry Pratchett gave to the (humorous) theory regarding the eighth color of the spectrum.

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san_jose_guy3 years ago

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lists his other books that talk about octarine discworld.fandom.com

This guy used to be called PEI Bonewitz, and I read one of his books, "Real Magic". I don't remember an colors. Is Bonewitz where the colors come from? amazon.com

THis tells much about where this came from: patheos.com

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