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Bloomberg got his ass handed to him during the debate

rickdugan
Verified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I'm not normally one to use melodrama statements, but it's hard to use a less descriptive title for what happened on that stage last night. Simply put, they carved him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. He was stiff, defensive and dismissive. He looked utterly unprepared, able to do little more than respond with a series of canned statements while they attacked him unceasingly and rather cleverly at times.

It was a performance reminiscent of Rubio's in a debate before the 2016 Republican New Hampshire primaries, where Trump and Christie beat him up so badly that all he could do was revert to canned statements, which Christie then also mocked him for doing. It essentially ended Rubio's candidacy. Now Bloomberg probably won't go down so easily, but that performance had to have hurt him.

60 comments

  • rickdugan
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    5 years ago
    That should have been "melodramatic statements" lol.
  • Hugh_G_Rection
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg is nothing but an Oligarch.
  • RandomMember
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    5 years ago
    I watched the debate and Liz Warren took a chainsaw to what's left of Bloomberg's geriatric balls. You can tell Bloomberg isn't used to be talked to that way.

    It doesn't help the Democratic party though; it only helps Trump. Although Bloomberg is very gifted at creating TV ads and you should never underestimate the stupidity of the average voter.
  • RandomMember
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    5 years ago
    *being
  • shadowcat
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    5 years ago
    It looked like the cast of Gilligans Island.

    The millioner - Bloomberg
    Skipper - Biden
    Gilligan - Buttigieg
    Professor - Sanders
    Ginger - Warren
    Mary Ann - Klobuchar
  • skibum609
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    5 years ago
    Mary Ann was way hotter than Ginger....
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg looked surprised that the other candidates were allowed to talk at all.

    There's only so much you can get with money.
  • rickdugan
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    5 years ago
    @RM and CMI: I agree that it was very apparent that he wasn't used to being talked to like that.

    He's just been so powerful for so long that he's surrounded by yes men. In fact, he is even more insulated than most billionaires because he's not answerable to either investors or government entities since Bloomberg LP is both privately held and largely unregulated.

    Now normally a centrist candidate like him would take some heat from left wing activist groups, but even they've been keeping their mouths shut because he's such a big charitable donor to so many of them.

    It must have really felt like an arctic blast on bare skin for him to leave his cocoon and be exposed to people making fun of him and leveling insults and accusations at him. Welcome to the Big League of politics and the real world, lol.
  • bdirect
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    5 years ago
    the haters turned on them selves last nites............. too funny.................. demo party in panic
  • twentyfive
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    5 years ago
    RickiBoi got a firsthand look at his asshole getting entered stupid faggit that loves his buddy icee the faggit queer bitch RickiBoi
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Yeah, Bloomberg got pummeled!

    "Michael Bloomberg was the Pinata in Nevada" - pretty entertaining to watch!
    https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2020/…

    The Republicans would do better if they could just get Trump to resign, so they can still pick someone else.

    Bernie Sanders says that our country has 1/2 million people sleeping out on the street.

    SJG

    Satin Doll Oscar Peterson 1963 (instrumental)
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    Jimmy Smith
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    Patti Austin (vocal)
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  • Icey
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    5 years ago
    I don't think the debates matter. Voting is a visceral act in the US. People will be swayed by last minute tv ads if anything. Most will simply vote along party linea while as usual the majority of the public will abstain from voting.

    Also remember that the rich don't go against their aelf interests. But the average American almost always does.
  • twentyfive
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    5 years ago
    No one hates RickiBoi we just laugh because he gets fucked in the ass by that twat icee the loco cock sucker
    Two faggits lol lol I personally think they are both the same RickiBoi and icee two hos fucking each other
  • etsutwigg222
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    5 years ago
    Yea, but they all will be kissing Bloomberg's ass for donations when he drops out.......Including Bernie.
  • Warrior15
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    5 years ago
    I think this performance may have given some life back to Biden. I think the moderates thought of Bloomberg as their savior. The debate might change that stance.
  • mark94
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    5 years ago
    If Bloomberg had done well, he would have been well-positioned to take votes away from other so-called moderates, giving Bernie real competition. Now, it looks like Bernie will enter the convention with a solid lead. Then, it’s up to party leaders to decide whether to change the rules to ( once again) steal the nomination from Bernie. Pop the popcorn. It’s getting fun.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg will be the spoiler in November, splitting the Republican vote.

    SJG
  • pistola
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    5 years ago
    I thought Biden had a strong showing. Funny how all the dems are extolling Liz when she essentially copied Trump - a big mouth bully. I agree with people above saying Bloomberg looked like 'who are these people talking to me like this.' I'm interested for him to take the gloves off, he left too many opportunities on the table to talk back i.e. 'Dont act all high and mighty Pocohantas, by lying on your college application you could've very well taken away an opportunity from a female minority.'

    It's a shitshow and Trump will destroy them all.
  • bdirect
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    5 years ago
    i am use to the demo's attacking and name calling trump and his supporters...... not each other
  • rickdugan
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    5 years ago
    ===> "Yea, but they all will be kissing Bloomberg's ass for donations when he drops out.......Including Bernie."

    I don't disagree, but I wonder now if he will drop out before the convention.
  • skibum609
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    5 years ago
    No republican will ever vote for Bloomberg. He was elected Mayor of a city of over 10 million people, 14 of them Republicans and the rest Democrats. He's just a more feminine version of AOC.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg is a fair target, because he WILL NOT be the Democratic Nominee.

    Chris Cuomo argues Donald Trump isn't normalizing corruption; the GOP is
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLVi7lU…

    SJG

    "Michael Bloomberg was the Pinata in Nevada" - pretty entertaining to watch!
    https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2020/…

    The Republicans would do better if they could just get Trump to resign, so they can still pick someone else.

    Bernie Sanders says that our country has 1/2 million people sleeping out on the street.

    Satin Doll Oscar Peterson 1963 (instrumental)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidAJ4VL…

    Jimmy Smith
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJ6d5dv…

    Patti Austin (vocal)
    https://youtu.be/4JwMgEyRv-8?t=35m21s

    Curtis Mayfield, Superfly
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  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    5 years ago
    Someone should have sat down with Bloomberg and a scratch-and-sniff book of his own past. And then explain how maybe he should just be a rich guy and let politics go.

    pistola said "... he left too many opportunities on the table to talk back i.e. 'Dont act all high and mighty Pocohantas, by lying on your college application you could've very well taken away an opportunity from a female minority.'"

    ummm... You do realize that the primary physical and viewing audience is Democrats, right?
  • skibum609
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    5 years ago
    Pocahontas, despite proclaiming publicly many many times about how she only lied about being Native American in college and in law school, also signed the same lie under the pains and penalties of perjury on her Texas Bar Application. She is literally the biggest scum on earth.
  • etsutwigg222
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg did appear to get his ass hammered, but it appeared he was totally unprepared. He still has that fat wallet, so we will soon see if Money talks with the Dems.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Elizabeth Warren has written, with her daughter-in-law, a very good book about the personal bankruptcy crisis.

    I was really impressed to learn that MA had elected her to the Senate.

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    SJG

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    Chris Cuomo argues Donald Trump isn't normalizing corruption; the GOP is
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLVi7lU…

    "Michael Bloomberg was the Pinata in Nevada" - pretty entertaining to watch!
    https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2020/…

    The Republicans would do better if they could just get Trump to resign, so they can still pick someone else.

    Bernie Sanders says that our country has 1/2 million people sleeping out on the street.

    Satin Doll Oscar Peterson 1963 (instrumental)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidAJ4VL…

    Jimmy Smith
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJ6d5dv…

    Patti Austin (vocal)
    https://youtu.be/4JwMgEyRv-8?t=35m21s

    Curtis Mayfield, Superfly
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Rm7IO4…
  • georgmicrodong
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    5 years ago
    Bloomberg was totally unprepared, and Warren was prepared to the hilt. She had a response for every damned thing he said. And probably had a response for things he *might* have said. None of the Democrats hold much appeal for me, but if I were inclined to vote Democrat, she or Buttigieg would probably be my first choices. Trump is a definite "no" for me, and most of the democrats make me want to vomit, so I'll be watching.
  • Lone_Wolf
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    5 years ago
    @ricjdugan - spot on. The dude lives in a different billionaire dimension than the rest of us human beings. Everyone is either kissing his or or peeing their pants when he's around. I agree, probably stunned he could be talked to like that by the peasents.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    But he was good enough to take maybe 15% of the Republican Vote in November, :) :) :)

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  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    @RickDugan

    Remember when I told you Bloomberg had no chance of beating Trump?

    Do you believe me now?
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    @Lone_Wolf

    The dude has no idea what his audience is too. He was literally bragging during the debate about how much money he has to an audience of Socialists, what an absolute idiot.
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    @CC99

    How’s an audience in Las Vegas Made up of mostly Mainstream Democrats “an audience of Socialists”
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    The people in Las Vegas are far from the only people watching the Democratic debates. Plus, a lot of "mainstream Democrats" are supportive of Socialism or at least, not hostile towards it.

    https://www.newsweek.com/76-percent-demo…

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/demo…
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    @CC99

    The majority of Mainstream Democrats are Centrists.
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    @CC99

    Just because Bernie Sanders has the most Vocal Supporters which only make up the a tiny proportion of the Democratic Party doesn’t mean that most mainstream Democrats are socialists.
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    @CC99

    It’s mostly Young people who’re in support of socialism but thankfully they don’t make up the majority of the Democratic Party.
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    @CC99

    Even Bernie Sanders is a failed Socialist who has failed to make any significant accomplishment given his 30 year career in the Senate.
  • Evasparkling
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    5 years ago
    The Medicare for All which he’s currently pushing was tried in his own home state of Vermont & it failed woefully.

    If he couldn’t make it work in the single state of Vermont what makes him think he can make it work in all 50 states of the United States of America.
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    @Evasparkling

    You seem to be under the impression I am a Bernie supporter? All I'm doing is relaying factual information.

    Most Democrats are not centrists. Actual centrists would identify as "independents." Very few people are true "centrists" though as almost everybody claims to lean towards the Democrat or Republican party. Being a centrist would indicate that you literally have no preference for either one.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party…

    Rather most of what we call "centrists" are people that I would call "centre-left" or "centre-right." A lot of people certainly claim to be centrists because they think it makes them look more objective but if you go way down the list on the link I provided above it showed that only about 8-12% of the population claims to not lean either way.

    I have a strong feeling though that anyone who would actually go so far as to identify themselves with "I am a Democrat!" Or "I am a Republican!" Is very likely to be solidly on that party's side as a lot of people, in my experience, are hesitant towards identifying with a political party even if they agree with them on a lot of things.
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    So I guess according to the above data, between 25-30% of the population is solidly Republican, 25-30% is solidly Democrat. 15-20% is centre-left, 15-20% is centre right, and 8-12% are true centrists.
  • mark94
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    5 years ago
    I don’t think left and right have much meaning these days. Trump has turned the traditional political alignments on their heads. Some of his positions, like protecting the working man, come from the traditional Democrat playbook ( which they abandoned ).

    Terms like nationalist, globalist, populist, and socialist are more relevant to defining political alignment than the tired terms left and right. I also don’t think liberal and conservative are as relevant as they once were. In fact, I’m not sure the party of Trump can be said to be Republican. It’s an odd mix of supporters from both sides that may evaporate when Trump is gone.
  • rickdugan
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    5 years ago
    @CC: I don't think that anyone could have predicted such a horrible performance from Bloomberg. With that said, I'm not ready to count him out yet. The guy is throwing obscene amounts of money around in every direction, from ads to left wing activism groups to social influencers to politicians who can sway delegate votes.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    ^^^^ That would be bad, another guy similar to Trump!

    SJG
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Trump is a con artist, very similar to Mussolini.

    https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3930

    The basic idea is that industrial technology should be used to enslave and to create a two tier society, rather than be use to liberate and to lift all of us up.

    Republican and Democrat do not have fixed meanings. But Fascist and Socialist do, and these two are our actual choices.

    SJG
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    @RickDugan

    It would be difficult to predict if you don't understand liberals. Maybe not this specific debate performance, but I knew as soon as his campaign took off that he was going to be very unpopular among liberals. The amount of money he is throwing at this campaign is all gonna be wasted even if he throws a billion dollars towards advertising.

    A lot of liberals are very idealistic people. Many of them refused to vote for Hillary because they perceived her as a corporate shill trying to buy her way into the white house and having no real convictions of her own.

    Mike Bloomberg is Hillary on steroids. He's not even trying to hide the fact that he's attempting to buy the white house. And on top of that, he can't even play the woman card or the minority card. The only reason Hillary got any true supporters is because she was a woman. Pretty much all the other votes she received were protest votes against Donald Trump. But Bloomberg doesn't even have the woman thing going for him.

    As far as Bloomberg goes, a lot of liberals don't consider him a real liberal. They consider him a corporate billionaire with no convictions trying to buy the white house. A lot of liberals would find it really difficult to make themselves vote for somebody like that. A lot of them will probably be more comfortable with the idea of Trump winning than Bloomberg because at least with Trump, you can tell yourself that the reason he won was because his support base loves him. With Bloomberg, if you elect him, you are literally sending a message saying that huge amounts of wealth can effortlessly buy political power which is something the Bernie supporters hate. The only votes he would receive in a general election is "I don't want Donald Trump" votes and that didn't work for Hillary so I doubt it would work for Bloomberg.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Mike Bloomberg is not a Democrat. He is like another Donald Trump.

    SJG
  • CC99
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    5 years ago
    ^SJG is proving my point.

    A lot of liberals do not like Bloomberg.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    "liberals", we just don't want to see more of the same Supply Side Bullshit, the costs to our society are far too large. It is a fraudulent economic system.

    SJG
  • Lone_Wolf
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    5 years ago
    Warren skeward him big time. Gloves are off now. She has plenty of baggage to go after if they all decide to go scorched earth. Be interesting to see how nasty future debates get.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    I think that for the Democratic Nomination, Bloomberg is history.

    But I don't think he will stop at the convention, he will be the spoiler third candidate!

    :) :) :)

    SJG
  • twentyfive
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    5 years ago
    Most Democrats identify as center left vey few actually identify as liberal.
  • twentyfive
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    5 years ago
    Something else I like about Bloomberg, it’s true he did poorly in the debate but even though he is drawing a ton of fire from fellow Democrats he’s not paying attention to that at all, instead he’s focused the majority of his ads, to taking on Trump.
  • mark94
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    5 years ago
    Yesterday on MSNBC, James Carville said that 2/3 of Dems are either liberal or very liberal and that Bernie correctly calculated that all he needs to do is win the majority of this 2/3 to get the nomination. Meanwhile, Biden needed to get 100% of the other 1/3, which won’t happen.
  • twentyfive
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    5 years ago
    But is Bernie’s calculating how he’s going to win the election if he’s the nominee , I don’t see it but we really need to get rid of Trump I’ve never said that about any other President in my lifetime.
  • mark94
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    5 years ago
    The box the Dems are in can be traced back to a party which uses identity politics to win races. They once had a solid base of the working class and the poor. Republicans were a minority party of the wealthy. As the Dems carved the electorate up into smaller and smaller groups of victims, they ignored their original base. Reagan took advantage of this and so has Trump.

    I have no doubt that Republicans will misread this and fail to hold their advantage post-Trump. But, for the next 5 years, Dems are screwed. I doubt they will learn their lessons either.

    In his own mind, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bernie knew he was unelectable. But, he’s enjoying the fame, power, and influence from being the nominee.
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    No, its the Republicans which depend on identity politics, a kind of normative identity.

    SJG

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  • skibum609
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    5 years ago
    Most Democrats identify as Center Left? Like the political version of trans.....
  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Different who votes in primaries, in caucuses, and in general elections, and then who will identify as Democrats.

    Bloomberg, he would be a good one for Republicans to nominate once Trump is out.

    It is Military, Intelligence, National Security, and Diplomacy which are the most mad at Trump and are taking him down.

    SJG

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  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    Warren blasts Bloomberg's past support of Lindsey Graham
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    SJG

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  • san_jose_guy
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    5 years ago
    This Michael Bloomberg is just a jackass. About the only one I could imagine who would be worse is Donald Trump.

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    SJG

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