Iran conflict:

3 hours ago?

Amanpour presses defense secretary: Are you ready to refuse Trump's order?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPBeQR3…

3 US bases attacked by Iranian ballistic missiles, at least 2 of them hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPAgdBa6…

( This is not war, this is just making unmanned attacks to try and save face. )

SJG

Biden slams Trump as "dangerously incompetent" on Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4iuBfMn…

SJG

Biden Claims Trump Has 'No Strategy' To Deal With Iran | NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmujX34B…

^^^^^^ this is obvious. It is why, ever since that troop removal form the Syrian-Turkish border, I have only listened to Mark Esper and Mark Milley. I need to know that sane people are in charge.

History of US - Iran conflict Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBELUtDb…

SJG

4 hours ago, Mark Esper
'We are not seeking a war with Iran': Mark Esper White House statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aFdhhUd…

SJG

Iran strikes Iraqi military bases home to U.S. troops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Vj7qyj…

SJG

Joe Biden and Barrack HUSSEIN Obama bought those missiles for Iran

Iran Launches Tens Of Missiles In Attack On 2 US Bases In Iraq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QBxJoIx…

SJG

NBC SPECIAL REPORT: Iran warns US not retaliate over missile attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpE7L3EG…

SJG

No reports of causalities so far.

SJG

Iran Panic : US Deploys 60 B-52 Bombers to Persian Gulf to Fight Against Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-22oRx…

SJG

Former Navy SEAL lays out how U.S. could respond to Iran's missile attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvgPttXu…

SJG

Iran 'revenge' operation sees US bases attacked with 'ballistic missiles' | ABC News ( Australia ) still no casualty reports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAdshVhS…

SJG

Some good can come from this. Hopefully one of those missiles hits SkiBum in the cervix.

You must be so sad your terrorist buddies didn't kill real Amnericans SJG.

^^^ STFU VH_SucksDick. You apparently have no job posting a bunch of political rhetoric on a website for strip club enthusiasts. Now continue rambling on about how much smarter you are about foreign affairs over any Trump voter, which only spurs those to re-elect him. Dumba$$!

My morning dumb is a genius compared to VH and far better looking as well.

* dump lol

Only thing I could find about the B52's being flow there is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsMBT4X…

So I still see it as unconfirmed.

And all officials still say no casualities from the 22 Iranian ballistic missiles.

And we have this from yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwD-iQk…

Esper is quite deadpan in style. But I noticed that when talking about the killing of Solimani, he did show emotion in his voice. Must have really wanted that guy dead.

If Trump lets Esper and Milley handle this, no problem.

If on the other hand Trump handles this, disaster. He will use it for self promotion.

SJG

News Hour, Trump is saying that Iran is backing down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_igi9Nr…

SJG

Pentagon Contradicts Trump and Says 11 U.S. Troops Injured in Iranian Strikes

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/1/17/h…

SJG

11 casualties, not 11 injuries. They were being observed for symptoms of concussion and were unable to perform their duties for a couple days.

no americans killed, but i still think iran will strike again

^^^^ My feeling is that they will not make any such new strikes in the near future. Costs too high, benefits too low.

But we have had bad relations in that part of the world for over 100 years. One way or another there will be new conflict somewhere. And remember that Russia and China have long been stirring the pot. We really do not know what is going on, cruise missiles fired at an Iranian tanker, and at pipes in Saudi oil fields.

None of those countries are well functioning democracies. And the US has long been part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Many people in those countries see that they have no economic future. Well this is how you get young men who turn to religious fundamentalism and are willing to live in caves wearing suicide vests and holding Kalashnikovs.

No different from how it is in the United States, young men who see that they have no future, turning to religious fundamentalism and hatred of minorities and immigrants, who are willing to attend racial supremacy rallies and carry out spree shootings.

SJG

i hope your right, no new attacks, or it would get ugly fast or WWIII , we dont have any friends in middle east, our only hope is that the people overtake the govt and put in leaders that are friendly to usa, ( like the shaw of iran, nassar in egypt )

iraq use to be a petro dollar rich country, your right that these war torn countries have no economic future, 99% are innocent people that suffer the most, they had loss everything, i dont know how they survive

Part of the problem is that the US and the UK have been installing friendly governments for decades. Such governments are never popularly supported. They are deemed US and UK friendly because they let our petroleum interests get the money.

And this is why their own people have very little future, they are looked at by these US and UK friendly governments as mere nuisances. The money does not move downward, and so the locals are considered irrelevant and they have no future.

In the early 1950's Iran did elect a democratic leader. He was going to make the country work for its own people, not for foreign interests.

And so the US CIA overthrew him and installed the Shah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_M…

A Capitalist Development State is not a democracy. That is what these US friendly governments turn places into.

Problem is that from Reagan forward, this is what the US has been turning into.

SJG

Surfaris - Wipe Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13yZAjh…

i believe the iraq people are better off now if we stay, the iraq govt is friendly to usa, but that iran general was trying to take over iraq , and destroy the democracy there by attacking americans and overthrow the govt there. if we pulled out, it would be like vietnam.

I agree that that general was a problem, and that Iran is causing problems in Iraq. But we do not really know who is encouraging Iran.

Ballistic Missiles are no big deal. But cruise missiles are the work of super power.

We should not be pulling out any troops recklessly. We needed to get out of Vietnam. But Trump pulling those troops out from the Turkey-Syrian border was a disaster. It may have been outright treason.

No, we need to still guide what happens in that region, and try to let popular democracy develop.

But too often, the US is trying to aide our own business interests. These are not the interests of our own people, or the people in those countries.

SJG

You dont see Mexico having conflicts with other countries !!!!

@nemesisk7 what are you talking about? They still get regularly upset with US. But their mostly dealing with internal affairs. Like heavy gang wars. And the possibility of a very real environmental shrinkage of their own country.

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