Need to do my hmwk but too busy enjoying this YouTube video with federal judges

I need to stop dreaming by watching the videos and do my hmwk ..its ok this is only free time I've had all day today so far ..k bye

Fuck!? You actually have free time? I’m jealous.

I don't know if you're just trolling or really believe what you write about the legal profession.... coz you'll be in for a big surprise if you get there.

Yeah...cuz what ice loco is more accurate than what I hear from actual first year law students and lawyers .

Apparently it is.

even Skibum's views on legal work and law school are more realistic.

I find your views inane on every subject Icey. You're simply worthless. Is your real name Norman Bates?

You finding them inane doesn't make them inane.

What I have said doesn't contrast with what ski bum has said...he simply talks about other subjects than I do..stop equating him talking about different subjects with saying contrasting things to make urself look better.

In addition, me talking about wanting to become federal judge and what I WANT to do does not reflect my view of the profession, because I am simply talking about what I want to do rather than what the profession is.

I.g saying you want to become a neurosurgeon does not reflect an unrealistic image of the medical profession, but saying that you are counting on that happening would.

If I expected that I would become a federal judge, that.would be unrealistic.I'm just talking about my wildest dreams ..btw I am joking about being federal judge its more like I just wanna graduate #1 in my class..that isn't an uncommon desire.

More so, say all you want icey, but I don't talk about the legal profession.i just deliver the message of what I hear hundreds of law students and lawyers from all different schools and sides tell me.

So ill continue hearing what actual law students and lawyers have to say ....

The dumbest thing you have said is that grades don't matter...sure it doesn't icey, when the whole world fucking knows that graduating top 10% can make the difference of making 150k vs 60k.

You're a fucking joke..I have never said something that I haven't heard other law students already mention so just know that.

Btw , if you want proof of why grades matter , I can send you links of accurate employment statistics collected by the American bar that supports what I have to say..I can also show you threads of actual lawyers and law students supporting the data and what I have to say


LOL AT THE FACT THAT UR DUMBASS ACTUALLY BELEIVES THAT ALL LAW STUDENTS MAKE THE SAME JUST BC THEY PASS THE BAR WHEN ONLY LESS THAN 20 PERCENT OF LAW SCHOOLS GRADUATE STUDENTS WHO MAKE 160 K AND THERE ARE STATSITCS TO SUPPORT THAT

YOURE ANJOKE CUZ I HAVE STAISTICS TO SHOW THAT GRADES MATTER AND CAN LINK THEM WHEREAS U DONT LMAO.

YOURE. NOT A JOKE CUZ OF WHAT U SAY, BUT BECAUSE YOUR CLAIMS THAT GRADES DONT MATTER MATTER VEEY HEVILY CONTRATS WITH THE DATA WHICH I CAN LINK AND FURTHER SUPPORT BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO LAW SCHOL AND KNOW WHAT THE HIRIING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE ACROSS SCHOOLS

YOURE. NOT A JOKE CUZ OF WHAT U SAY,

BUT BECAUSE YOUR CLAIMS THAT GRADES DONT MATTER MATTE CONTRASTS VERY HEAVILY WITH THE DATA WHICH I CAN LINK AND FURTHER SUPPORT BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO LAW SCHOL AND KNOW WHAT THE HIRIING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE ACROSS SCHOOLS

YOURE. NOT A JOKE CUZ OF WHAT U SAY,

BUT BECAUSE YOUR CLAIMS THAT GRADES DONT MATTER CONTRASTS VERY HEAVILY WITH THE DATA WHICH I CAN LINK AND FURTHER SUPPORT BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO LAW SCHOL AND KNOW WHAT THE HIRIING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE ACROSS SCHOOLS

Grades don't matter. And as long as you pass the BAR and the longer you practice the less they matter. And a good lawyer doesn't argue and go to trial, a good lawyer protects their clients privacy and wallet and uses Discovery to avoid going to trial.... If you argued during a case the way you do on here, opposing counsel would get you sanctioned.....after using your arguments to drain your client's wallet. You'll also realize that cooperation and building relationships with other attorneys and judges is more valuable than "arguing"...

I never said every lawyer makes the same amount of money. But some don't make more coz of their grades. What makes attorneys from ivy league schools earn so much is the good old boy network they're a part of, not their skills, grades or education.

And you're not talking to hundreds of lawyers and law school students....You're selectively choosing data to support your preconceived notions. Reality is different.

Don't be a bitch about it, I'm giving you real life advice. Take from it what you want.

You didnt say they make the same amount of money...but u said grades don't matter.which is wrong cuz grades determine your salary which determines if u can pay ur debt off and eat

You wanna also know why grades matter? Because you are wrong by saying that passing the bar is the only thing that matters.

Grades also determine whether you can get a job to become a practicing attorney. Grades determine if u get hired.

Proof of that is that students below a certain last and gpa only have a marginal chance of gettinf hired Dont believe me? Why dont u Google the number of students who work full time, jd required jobs from schools ranked 100-150 compared to students from schools ranked 1-50.

What makes attorneys from ivy league schools earn so much is

Hey iceyy. We don't need to look at ivy league students because you wanna also know why grades matter? Cuz students who pass the have but have low GPA and LSAT scores don't even get hired as lawyers.

GRADES DONT MATTER JUST CUZ OF MONEY.THEY MATTER BECASUE THEY DETEMRINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PRACTICE LAW REGARDLESS OF IF U PASSED THE BAR

GRADES DONT MATTER JUST CUZ OF MONEY.THEY MATTER BECASUE THEY DETEMRINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PRACTICE LAW REGARDLESS OF IF U PASSED THE BAR

GRADES DONT MATTER JUST CUZ OF MONEY.THEY MATTER BECASUE THEY DETEMRINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PRACTICE LAW REGARDLESS OF IF U PASSED THE BAR

You're selectively choosing data to support your preconceived notions...

Nah. Watch me send you links of realistic employment outcomes collected by the American bar association as well as what law students who have gone thru the process have to say .they basically just reiterate what a lawyer and UT law professor told me..which is that if you want to get hired as a practicing lawyer, then make sure u have decent grades and not go to a shitty school.

#tempertantrum

That's not true, there are plenty of practicing attorneys who graduated from unranked law schools and they're doing just fine. By your logic only the top 10% from the top schools end up employed, so all the other schools should shut down and everyone should just drop out lol

Your professor is trying to encourage you to do well.... that's it.

And don't throw a tantrum coz reality doesn't match your preconceived notions.

You'll see what I mean if you get some real world experience.

By your logic only the top 10% from the top schools end up employed, s


Umm no..those are the only ones that clerk for top judges

BY MY LOGIC, YOU DONT NEED TO BE TOP OF TOP TO BE EMPLOYED. BY MY LOGIC THO, YOU NEED TO HAVE DECENT BUT NOT TOP GRADES TO BE EMPLOYED WHICH IS WHY GRADES MATTER.

BY MY LOGIC, YOU DONT NEED TO BE TOP OF TOP TO BE EMPLOYED. BY MY LOGIC THO, YOU NEED TO HAVE DECENT BUT NOT TOP GRADES TO BE EMPLOYED WHICH IS WHY GRADES MATTER.

BY MY LOGIC, YOU DONT NEED TO BE TOP OF TOP TO BE EMPLOYED.

BY MY LOGIC THO, YOU NEED TO HAVE DECENT BUT NOT TOP GRADES TO BE EMPLOYED WHICH IS WHY GRADES MATTER.

BY MY LOGIC, YOU DONT NEED TO BE TOP OF TOP TO BE EMPLOYED.

BY MY LOGIC THO, YOU NEED TO HAVE DECENT BUT NOT TOP GRADES TO BE EMPLOYED WHICH IS WHY GRADES MATTER.

lol

Btw that isn't by my logic..I was speaking on behalf of the American bar association's OBVIOUS logic.

If you graduate, your grades are decent.... If you're trying to argue semantics you're doing it wrong. Grades matter while in school, so that you can graduate. Once you graduate, no one really cares since you graduated. The big thing is passing the BAR.

So grades don't matter huh..guess that explains why students with certain undergrad grades get hired , while students who have lower undergrads don't ?

Clearly , the facts are not in ur favor

While students with lower grades don't **

Conjecture can't be a statement of fact....


There are full partners in major firms who went to unranked schools. A major Beverly Hills internet attorney has a BA from the University of Phoenix and graduated from an unranked school... You're way off. Get some real world experience.

Hey iceyy, I know one or two people that made it alive after suffering from 9 gun shots. Guess that means that the majority of people who suffer from 9 gunshots are gonna make it out alive too right?

Just like how you think that those handful of people who make it out from unranked schools is the norm , rather than an anomaly , which is what it really is, right ?

Those people are more endemic of the real situation that stats you try to bring up. If what you said were true, those unranked schools wouldn't function and the bulk of law school graduates, who are not from the top 10% of their class and don't go to elite schools, wouldn't be making a living in the legal and related fields.

the bulk of law school graduates, who are not from the top 10% of their class and don't go to elite schools, wouldn't be making a living in the legal and related fields

^but what I said was not against that


the bulk of employed lawyers went to ranked law schools.duh.

icey , u talk about the "the bulk"

Can u tell me if the bulk of employed lawyers went to ranked law schools or if they went to unranked schools?

I'll wait.

the bulk of practicing lawyers aren't working coz of their grades, where they went to school nor their class standing. They're working coz they graduated, passed the BAR and are performing well

^^^^ Nicole has much higher ambitions!

SJG

Ambitions have to be based on actual merit and achievements. So far she hasn't even graduated with her BS/BA and she has a very stunted view of the legal field. I'm not saying it in a bad way, but she has to be more realistic.

She is pursuing intellectual excellence. She should be commended.

SJG

There are many impediments and challenges in your higher education system. But Nicole is taking it on with all her abilities. She should be commended for this.

SJG