San jose guy is a brilliant man! He is an absolute genius when he says lap dances are for chumps! It is all about the front room makeout session! Sjg thank you for your wisdom!
Glad folks are finally starting to understand. Our clubs could be as good as the TJ clubs, if guys would simply not go along with clip joint tactics.
Lap Dancing started at MBOT, and it meant lap sitting. How much else went along with this varied widely.
Dianne Feinstein tried to incarcerate Jim and Artie. But they hired a good lawyer and fought back. A big part of their defense was that it was all front room, so rather than being just sexual gratification, it was a kind of sex education, a cabaret show with audience participation.
After Jim and Artie won, then the Mafia came in and set up the back rooms. This does not always increase the mileage. Mostly it increases the house cut, and it makes it easier for the dancer to maintain control, never having to open up. It is a scam! The girl is not really yielding to you.
It's stupid idiots like the proud liberal husband troll is why tj clubs will always be better than u s clubs. I would rather make fewer trips and go to tj where its a million times better than us especially kentucky clubs!
"It's stupid idiots like the proud liberal husband troll is why tj clubs will always be better than u s clubs"
Very true, its the white shithead culture which compromised our strip clubs. Otherwise they could be just as good as TJ's. Most of what is needed gets into areas where laws are impossible to enforce anyway.
One day I will be laying in a hospital bed, in a coma and someone will jokingly say "a front room make out session". I will immediately come out of the coma and strangle them.
Sjg, that is true but in those dives most of the dancers aren't worth a front room makeout session! Blue diamond being the exception! Im going to tj in august would love to hear thoughts on that! Advice from you is priceless!
"Sjg, that is true but in those dives most of the dancers aren't worth a front room makeout session!"
Well finally, after hundreds of threads from tuscl nay-sayers, we finally get to the truth! I have never posted anything to contradict Countryman's above statement, and I am not aware of anyone else who has, about US clubs, either. We are all in agreement that these places where front room makeout sessions commonly occur, US clubs, are dives and shit holes, whore houses.
Now, how about this 'most'?
You are only going to be making out with one of them at a time. So long as you can find one you like, then the rest of them do not matter. You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with, and you approach her yourself. So long as you can identify such a girl, then everything will be fine.
Now of course in TJ, your front room makeout session should be before arriba, to get your girl softened up so that the sex will be mind blowing for both parties and so you can be waking up in the mornings with her regularly. You want to get her off script so it becomes a civilian date.
And then according to the TJA people, there is even more tongue in Las Chevales and Bar Tropical. And then in Playboy Bar girls approach from behind when you are seated and so you get zero choice in the matter.
And this makes sense, they are trying to get arriba or fitcha, they don't want guys holding out for some other girl who likely does not even exist. They want immediate results.
If people could deconstruct their white shit head attitudes, our US clubs could be as good as TJ!
Most of the time when sex workers talk what they say what they want most is to be able to select who they do or don't engage with, and not have to justify it to anyone. So the TJ style, where a guy can be assertive, and girls can push it even beyond assertive, is ideal. Our US clubs can be like that!
@san_jose_guy - I have been lurking here for awhile (approximately 20 of your human "years") and have become a great admirer of your philosophy and the organization you seek to build. You have a spark of the Great Old Ones in you, my friend.
My organization will include many functions and components. But one in particular I would like to point out to Lord_Cthulhu is that you will be able to offer a girl up on the altar. We might have the room for this in the basement of the temple. It is inspired by persons like Joris-Karl Huysmans, Anton LaVey, Aleister Crowley, and Kenneth Grant.
Now with LaVey it was just to provoke people's imaginations. With Crowley's Gnostic Mass, not clear that it was intended to lead to real sex. I have redesigned it, so that it now centers around real sex. You are supposed to develop the ritual, and then fuck her. And then other women will fuck the other men, starting where they sit.
And then in our women's initiations, they will be serving as sex slaves, with special uniforms, inspired by Story of O.
But there are many more aspects to the organization, and much of the sex is actually set up to be lady's choice.
Lots of room for things in this Order, and lots more I still need to learn. But the most important things are rejecting psychiatry, psychology, psychotherapy, recovery, and salvation. And then most of all, SEX!
The most important of our f2f rituals always amount to sex. Otherwise no reason to take the time and trouble to journey to the temple. Everything else can be done online.
So some will be ritualized, but most will be completely informal. And never any cost to it. If you don't pick one of the women quickly, then it won't matter because they'll pick you.
Drained dry 365 days a year.
For on site sleep overs, since that ties up a girl all night, we do have to ration it, to 4 times per week. But you can still stay at the temple every night and go and get extra rounds whenever you are ready, and if you know the women outside, then sleep overs are between you and them.
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Lap Dancing started at MBOT, and it meant lap sitting. How much else went along with this varied widely.
Dianne Feinstein tried to incarcerate Jim and Artie. But they hired a good lawyer and fought back. A big part of their defense was that it was all front room, so rather than being just sexual gratification, it was a kind of sex education, a cabaret show with audience participation.
After Jim and Artie won, then the Mafia came in and set up the back rooms. This does not always increase the mileage. Mostly it increases the house cut, and it makes it easier for the dancer to maintain control, never having to open up. It is a scam! The girl is not really yielding to you.
SJG
Robert Tilton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yncWoyl…
SJG
Very true, its the white shithead culture which compromised our strip clubs. Otherwise they could be just as good as TJ's. Most of what is needed gets into areas where laws are impossible to enforce anyway.
SJG
SJG
Its actually in your state where in the mixed race dives there are TUSCLer accounts of front room makeout sessions.
SJG
Well finally, after hundreds of threads from tuscl nay-sayers, we finally get to the truth! I have never posted anything to contradict Countryman's above statement, and I am not aware of anyone else who has, about US clubs, either. We are all in agreement that these places where front room makeout sessions commonly occur, US clubs, are dives and shit holes, whore houses.
Now, how about this 'most'?
You are only going to be making out with one of them at a time. So long as you can find one you like, then the rest of them do not matter. You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with, and you approach her yourself. So long as you can identify such a girl, then everything will be fine.
Now of course in TJ, your front room makeout session should be before arriba, to get your girl softened up so that the sex will be mind blowing for both parties and so you can be waking up in the mornings with her regularly. You want to get her off script so it becomes a civilian date.
Sounds like many of them give you very little choice, Dr. F.'s girl by girl account:
https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=258…
And then according to the TJA people, there is even more tongue in Las Chevales and Bar Tropical. And then in Playboy Bar girls approach from behind when you are seated and so you get zero choice in the matter.
And this makes sense, they are trying to get arriba or fitcha, they don't want guys holding out for some other girl who likely does not even exist. They want immediate results.
Blue Diamond, Louisville
https://www.tuscl.net/listing.php?id=210…
People had said that actually in KY it is Lexington which is now better for dive and front room makeout session clubs. Don't know myself.
SJG
Yanis Varoufakas
https://kpfa.org/episode/against-the-gra…
Most of the time when sex workers talk what they say what they want most is to be able to select who they do or don't engage with, and not have to justify it to anyone. So the TJ style, where a guy can be assertive, and girls can push it even beyond assertive, is ideal. Our US clubs can be like that!
Original Thread About This Topic
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
SJG
Grace Potter and Joe Satriani cover Cortez the Killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paeNnR33…
SJG
Led Zeppelin Heartbreaker / Living Loving Maid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmCOSYU…
Now with LaVey it was just to provoke people's imaginations. With Crowley's Gnostic Mass, not clear that it was intended to lead to real sex. I have redesigned it, so that it now centers around real sex. You are supposed to develop the ritual, and then fuck her. And then other women will fuck the other men, starting where they sit.
And then in our women's initiations, they will be serving as sex slaves, with special uniforms, inspired by Story of O.
But there are many more aspects to the organization, and much of the sex is actually set up to be lady's choice.
Good to have you here on this forum!
SJG
The most important of our f2f rituals always amount to sex. Otherwise no reason to take the time and trouble to journey to the temple. Everything else can be done online.
So some will be ritualized, but most will be completely informal. And never any cost to it. If you don't pick one of the women quickly, then it won't matter because they'll pick you.
Drained dry 365 days a year.
For on site sleep overs, since that ties up a girl all night, we do have to ration it, to 4 times per week. But you can still stay at the temple every night and go and get extra rounds whenever you are ready, and if you know the women outside, then sleep overs are between you and them.
I assume you know about Peter Levenda:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Leve…
http://peterlevenda.com/
http://www.tantrictemples.us/
awesome book:
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Lord-Lovecra…
In my opinion Kenneth Grant's work is under appreciated. His later books I can't find in libraries or used.
The Necronomicon & Government Occult True Believers with Peter Levenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcsaRcFL…
SJG