By that i mean how much girls are going to be paid for doing this regardless of the "glamour" or "stigma", and my guess is there will be less of both in the intermediate and distant future but neither will be eliminated, especially in very patriarchal societies like the US. My guess is that the strip clubs of old (just medium contact dances or less or just stage dominated) will probably die out or just survive in a few pockets in the country where the pay is minimal. Not that the pay at other strip clubs will be that much better but the real money will be in extras and OTC and very high volume dances and even then not like it was before or now. VHM and UHM places will still be around, but 20 years from now, $20-$30 lap dances won't be worth too much for the ladies, especially when clubs will probably be taking around half or more (in dances and VIPs) just so they can survive, while still charging even higher fees to work there. There hasn't been a lot of price inflation for dances in the last 20+ years, and i don't expect much going forward either.
I just think that there will likely be a different culture of girls working the clubs. Basically, girls (children of the Great Recession and probably future recessions) doing this to pay their bills and being pretty obvious about this, and no longer for high income or high standards of living, not that the income and standards for most strippers is that high right now. Also the future PL is changing too as the higher spending ones stop going or die out. Doesn't bode well for the average quality of the future strip club experience. Hypothetical? Yes, but i think it is a working hypothesis. What do you guys conjecture?
In my crystal balls (which could be a dancers stage name) - I think the industry will morph in a way that vacillates between what the LE environment allows and what customers demand for extras (that push beyond legal bounds).
As long as horny guys have money - strip clubs and whores will retain employment. Online porn will remain prevalent and free. Caming will be popular for certain segments.
Nothing will replace the strip club in the not so near future. Guys will want to see sexy girls on stage in tiny outfits. There will continue to be girls who need money. These two things won’t change.
With the lose of back page I think that some girls will move back into the clubs and discreetly drum up OTC business.
Something will take back page's place and will have more safeties on it to protect the owners. It will like move off shore like the online gambling sites. The hypocrites and the thought police are out in force right now and you can't blame Trump because this started long before he even started his run. The worst offenders are the ultra liberals that hate everyone who is not them.
The world is bass-ackwards! . There is something seriously wrong with the establishment that they have all been replace with wackos.
Like I have always been told: To see the true face of evil you need look no further that the nearest government agency. Every atrocity in the history of mankind has been promulgated by government.
The modern version of stripping has been around since the early 1800s, and sex work is the "world's oldest profession," yet it's all considered taboo. Unfortunately, I don't think anything is ever gonna change that.
I don't see anything that can replace the strip club medium right now. I just see less money in sex work altogether. Porn rates are going down due to lack of demand in people paying for it. Camming is just getting more saturated as girls (often foreign ones) just flood the market. Porn stars have to escort more to make money and even those rates (which are among the highest in the industry) are going down. If FOSTA doesn't bring down SA, a lot of the cheap whores are going to go there. If SA eventually goes down (likely if not probably), escorting and prostitution will just likely get even harder to market and promote making it harder for those girls to make money. Maybe they go to strip clubs. This is all happening now or near future. There's also things that are unknown like the availability of cash and the use of other methods of payment that can have an effect down the line. Or even if the opioid "crisis" gets even worse and has an effect on the type of girls that go into sex work (more likely prostitution).
Rates and wages are somewhat stagnant for a good portion of this country’s workers. So - to say that sex workers will not see a large scale increase in wages simply follows the general trend as it exists.
If consumers don’t experience considerable wage growth - I don’t see how the sex workers would see wage growth.
Folks work longer now to take home the same amount of money.
Sex work is less lucrative than others might think. The market for porn Stars is flooded with girls who are largely interchangeable. Only by moving into more extreme acts - will girls earn more.
This is similar in strip clubs - as dancers get squeezed. The club takes a higher cut - and customers pay a similar amount to years earlier. I don’t see dancers making more unless wages increase.
I can imagine strip clubs surviving in poorer parts of the US. 20 to 30 dollars for a couple lap dances every hour is still easier pay than working a regular job considering she may also be getting free drinks, tips, etc. If she gets multiple dances each hour, the pay is much better than a regular job. Poor girls work to make money. Rich girls don't need the money.
I keep hearing within 20 years, Robots will replace millions of jobs in the US and one guy running for president wants everyone 18 to 65 to get $1000 a month universal basic income UBI, no strings attached. If you are used to getting by with very little income, it's enough to survive but not enough to deter working to get ahead. I was reading up on the plan. I'm just not clear about the 10% value added tax on products sold as far as what would be affected. I'm not sure if all the numbers add up even though some claim it would boost GDP quite a lot. If the tax was applied to cars, houses, and most household goods, Juice might come out real good if he was only buying in the black market without the extra tax. Just saying lap dances aren't taxed. Strippers would probably be like, hell yes, give me an extra 1000 a month, no strings attached. They might be less happy when they find out their rent, food, clothes, etc. all cost at least an extra 10% or more. I can imagine prices on some goods going up more than 10%. If everyone from a manufacturer, to the shipping company, to the seller, and all the middlemen, add in 10% charges, the final product might cost twice as much. A $24,000 car might cost $48,000. It would take 24 months just to break even after buying a car not counting the cost of everything else becoming more expensive. That's why I'm not sure if the numbers add up. It sounds a bit like Bernie Sanders. It may work though. I'm just not sure. I like the idea. It could really help the poor and strip clubs if customers got an extra 1000 bucks a month if expenses didn't skyrocket.
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As long as horny guys have money - strip clubs and whores will retain employment. Online porn will remain prevalent and free. Caming will be popular for certain segments.
Nothing will replace the strip club in the not so near future. Guys will want to see sexy girls on stage in tiny outfits. There will continue to be girls who need money. These two things won’t change.
Something will take back page's place and will have more safeties on it to protect the owners. It will like move off shore like the online gambling sites. The hypocrites and the thought police are out in force right now and you can't blame Trump because this started long before he even started his run. The worst offenders are the ultra liberals that hate everyone who is not them.
The world is bass-ackwards! . There is something seriously wrong with the establishment that they have all been replace with wackos.
Like I have always been told: To see the true face of evil you need look no further that the nearest government agency. Every atrocity in the history of mankind has been promulgated by government.
If consumers don’t experience considerable wage growth - I don’t see how the sex workers would see wage growth.
Folks work longer now to take home the same amount of money.
Sex work is less lucrative than others might think. The market for porn Stars is flooded with girls who are largely interchangeable. Only by moving into more extreme acts - will girls earn more.
This is similar in strip clubs - as dancers get squeezed. The club takes a higher cut - and customers pay a similar amount to years earlier. I don’t see dancers making more unless wages increase.
I keep hearing within 20 years, Robots will replace millions of jobs in the US and one guy running for president wants everyone 18 to 65 to get $1000 a month universal basic income UBI, no strings attached. If you are used to getting by with very little income, it's enough to survive but not enough to deter working to get ahead. I was reading up on the plan. I'm just not clear about the 10% value added tax on products sold as far as what would be affected. I'm not sure if all the numbers add up even though some claim it would boost GDP quite a lot. If the tax was applied to cars, houses, and most household goods, Juice might come out real good if he was only buying in the black market without the extra tax. Just saying lap dances aren't taxed. Strippers would probably be like, hell yes, give me an extra 1000 a month, no strings attached. They might be less happy when they find out their rent, food, clothes, etc. all cost at least an extra 10% or more. I can imagine prices on some goods going up more than 10%. If everyone from a manufacturer, to the shipping company, to the seller, and all the middlemen, add in 10% charges, the final product might cost twice as much. A $24,000 car might cost $48,000. It would take 24 months just to break even after buying a car not counting the cost of everything else becoming more expensive. That's why I'm not sure if the numbers add up. It sounds a bit like Bernie Sanders. It may work though. I'm just not sure. I like the idea. It could really help the poor and strip clubs if customers got an extra 1000 bucks a month if expenses didn't skyrocket.