Some SA Questions for those Experienced

Why would you want to go this way, instead of just meeting a girl at a strip club, and then letting things happen?

As I see it, f2f first meetings is always best. And as I see it, you NEVER should disclose such personal financial info.

SJG

You can lie nothing is verified unless you pay extra, use pay pal and avoide giving your full name. You will get a lot of responses at first but then they will taper off. Do not agree to pay to meet, you can arrange pay per meet rather than an allowance actually I would advise that. Be prepared for the girls to not look like they’re pictures some will but most will be using old pics from before they got fat or old or whatever.

@SJG why do you always post negative shit and disrespect everyone here I am sick and tired of your arrogant bullshit.

^^^^^^ You talking to yourself in the mirror there TwentyFive?

To our OP, if you select your girl in a strip club, you will know what she looks like. But more important, you will see if she is someone you really like, before even talking about any such 'arrangement'.

SJG

^^^What a fucking dipshit

^^^^^ You should talk to yourself in the mirror more often TwentyFive, you are starting to see truth.

SJG

May not specifically answer your questions but below are 2 TUSCL articles written by well-regarded TUSCLers w.r.t. SA:

tuscl.net

tuscl.net

^^^^^ Thanks Papi

SJG

If you find your girl at a strip club, it won't be hard to talk her into extreme slut wear.

10": pleaserusa.com

tuscl.net

SJG

Founder, please let our threads stay open!

1. You don't need to give your real name. Don't bother getting a background check. Use a fake handle for your account. Your choice on whether you want to give your real name or handle to your SB. I have pics of myself from the neck down in my public pics; face pic is in my private pics.

2. Don't do background or income checks.

3. Since you're not doing a background check, you can write whatever you want for net worth and allowance offers. I checked "negotiable" for allowance, and low-balled my net worth so expectations wouldn't be too high

4. cash

5. In general, you need to strike while the iron is hot -- once you get a woman's attention, move to meet quickly, or risk her going away. That said, as far as "responding to offers", most unsolicited offers you get will be from escorts; and if you're on SA to meet escorts, why not just save yourself the $75/month and use backpage or whatever? A bunch of guys on tuscl seem to be bottom-feeding SA as if it were backpage, but that just doesn't make sense to me. While there are always exceptions, as a general rule, high quality sugarbabies will let you come to them, which you don't have to do until you're ready.

6. As per 25, do not ever agree to pay for an initial meeting, without intimacy. And, the vast majority of girls will agree to per-meeting payment at first, even if they want to go monthly eventually. Also, you'll notice that many of the girls on SA seem to be irritated at you; that's because there's so many flakes, posers, and time wasters on there. Don't take it personally. But, I do avoid any profiles where the SB vents and complains; if she doesn't have the emotional IQ to control herself on her profile, the place where she's supposed to make herself attractive, in real life she'll be a nightmare

Thanks for posting those Papi. After reading those two reviews, I am not quite a eager to go do SA. But I would like for some of the experience SA people to answer the OP questions. I would like to learn more about it and how to get set up.

"... do not ever agree to pay for an initial meeting ..."

Have not done SA but one would assume a fair # of con-artists can be on there - only pay for what you want - I assume there are con-artists on there that want $200 or $300 just to meet for dinner w/o ever having any further intentions; and they jump from mark to mark making $$$ like this.

1. No. Not only no but fuck no.
2. Fuck background checks unless you want your identity out there in some database. See #1. Most girls are fine with that if you meet them and you both gets the right vibes.
3. No. Quote whatever you are comfortable with. If you screen out girls who want high rollers well good, most of those girls are GPS girls not worth your time.
4. Cash only. Most girls love it most. Venmo is ok but Pay Pal leaves an email source.
5. Take your time and screen. Most girls wont reach out to you first so you need to make contact. Make sure you have some flattering pics in your private profile to share.
6. Get at least a one month paid account. You cant read messages until you do. Use a generic gift card and do not use a personal credit card if you want some anonymity.

Dont be in a rush, never pay sight unseen or upfront with a new girl. Figure out what is looking for in the relationship, sometimes she doesnt know but almost always its just for fun and of course she needs $. So make it fun, dont be a douch and treat her like a p4p machine. She is likely curious and exploring her own desires and needs.

Ignore the trollbots here like SJG and save yourself a little time by not wasting your words.

1. No, you don’t have to give your real name to anyone, ever. Not SA, not the babies. I use the single use debit cards from Walmart, paid for with cash, to subscribe. I use an email address I set up specifically for SA, and an phone number that I only give to babies, not anyone else. You can have public pictures that anyone browsing can see, and private pictures that only those you select can see.

2. I’ve never done the background or income check. I suppose it’s possible some girls have passed me over for that, but I’ve been satisfied with those who haven’t.

3. You do not have to be a millionaire. Part of your profile are questions about your income and what lifestyle you’re willing to provide. The income one accepts whatever you give it. Set the lifestyle to whatever you’re comfortable with.

4. Cash. I’ve yet to meet anyone who wouldn’t take it, but some have preferred that I not hand it to them directly, but leave it on the dresser or something. I’ve also met one who preferred gift cards, but I talked her out of it.

5. When you first sign up, you’ll get some number of free messages. I don’t remember if they’re censored to remove contact info or not. The first month will also be at a discount. Paid membership is monthly, and when it expires, you can no longer read or send messages. What I usually do is pay for a month, message everybody I find interesting, exchange contact information with those who are interested back, then let my account expire while I follow up.

6. Do not ever pay for a meet and greet beyond coffee or lunch. If they raise the issue and won’t back down (some will if you’re polite about it), move on.

Never meet at her place the first time, for anything, not a M&G, nor a date.

Be aware of what you want from the deal, no matter what it is, and bring it up at some point before the M&G. If she’s not onboard, move on. I put my desires right in my profile.

Whatever contact info she gives you, google it and search it on social media. If she’s an escort, it will probably show up, and a surprising number of girls use the same phone, email and/or pics as they do on FB, IG, Snapchat, etc.

Don’t let them pressure you into anything.

Block anyone from the Philippines or South America who favorites you. They’re scams. You’ll get a lot of favoriting from “girls” there. Even from Europe, though some of those are real, and just want a free ride to the US.

Pretty much ignore anyone who favorites you without viewing your profile. They’re either hookers or desperate.

Don’t use the app on your phone, just the website in private mode in your browser. Unless you don’t care about leaving traces on your phone itself.

If someone requests access to your private pics with no other message, either ignore them or, if she interests you, request right back and don’t do anything until she responds.

Damn all of this sounds like it takes a lot of time. It seems so much easier to go shopping at a strip club instead. But to each his own.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

I am considering SA vs. just continuing intermittent clubbing for a few reasons. First, I don't really like the atmosphere of clubs. The loud music, black lights in the dance areas, etc. just does not seem conductive to casual intimacy to me. It's more like "hurry up and get it done - the clock is ticking!" Sure there is OTC, but the club environment to me seems to get things started on the wrong foot for my first impression of someone.

Also would like to spend time with someone I may have more in common with, despite the age differences. I've had a hard time relating to many of the strippers. If it is someone say in college, particularly if a major similar to mine years ago, I think there would be more in common. I'm curious as to how things have changed since years ago when I was in school. The mentor in me kicks in. It's not 100% about sex. Playfulness and geek-ness are important to me, and it seems I don't see as much of that as I'd like among those who work the clubs. Maybe I won't see it with SA either, but I think it is worth checking.

Not interested in dating in the classical way. I have tried it several times as an older (over 50) guy, and hated it each time. Number one, I'm not really attracted to ladies over 40 (either physically or personality-wise), and number two, I'm definitely not interested in committing to the role 99% of women in the dating scene are looking for. If say a college student or divorced MILF is having trouble financing education, I can certainly see helping them out during their education, financially and in other ways, in exchange for companionship and intimacy, during that period.

As has been mentioned here, I do not plan to commit to regular arrangements until after a few meetings to see if the chemistry is right. If I lose the cost of dinner and my time a few times on the way, that does not bother me though - anymore than going to an interview that does not work out for a job would. I don't care if I get "sex on the first date" or third or whatever, if the chemistry is right.

Ryan

Not much to add, and I've been a user of the site for over a month now. Have a fake name and fake pic, but do have real pics available if I want to share. I'll give my real name upon request, but only first name, never last name. Lots of hits initially, quite a bit less now. Finding a ton of flakes that will message once or twice and then you never hear from them again. What also makes it hard for me is I try to arrange meetups on my business travel, so often don't really know my schedule in advance. Two meetups so far were pay to play (cash), and both played. The first one I expected, the second one was a very pleasant surprise. Have a SA date this Wednesday where I'm not sure, so I'm testing if my hinting is enough, or if I need to be more clear. It's worth checking out the site in my opinion. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to renew my membership as it's almost time.

@Smith: "Damn all of this sounds like it takes a lot of time. It seems so much easier to go shopping at a strip club instead. But to each his own."

Well, @Smith, since you've gone on record paying an insane amount of money for some teenage "dream stripper" who caught an STD from her drug dealer, you probably wouldn't understand.

For a couple of reasons I mentioned in past comments I let my membership go dormant and reactivated it the second week of January.

I had multiple hits in 48 hours ( 7 messages and if I recall about 11 views/likes) I don't use a picture and I pay month to month. At no time do I put anything out there that ties back to me and I tend to stay away from anyone within 30-45 minute drive of where I live.

I travel for work so I look for people in my area---in a perfect world I have one steady and I shop in a couple of other regions for by meetings.

I started using the site five plus years ago. Overall I've had very good experiences.

The girl I met last week on a first date knows my first name and my cell number --not the main one but a second one I use for mongering. We hooked up on the first date which I admit is rare and it was great, good enough for me to have her meet up with me two nights later.

As a rule I seem to have the best luck with women who do not pigeon hole themselves and can be described as looking for "negotiate".......

Grad Student--money going for tuition. ( which I also tend to like--that and nurses)

I never tell them my net worth, what I do for a living, or what I make a year--all the figures on the site are low.

Typically my goal is to meet up the first time and not go back and forth on the site for days on end. I never expect anything on the first meeting but as it did in this case I've found the college girls tend to take the lead when they like you enough or need the money enough and you end up in bed.

Actually it doesn't take much time--at least for me --- but maybe I have been lucky.

Let me add I've said this before as well and it is one rule you should follow:

Subraman gets the credit for stating it here.

"Also, you'll notice that many of the girls on SA seem to be irritated at you; that's because there's so many flakes, posers, and time wasters on there. Don't take it personally. But, I do avoid any profiles where the SB vents and complains; if she doesn't have the emotional IQ to control herself on her profile, the place where she's supposed to make herself attractive, in real life she'll be a nightmare"