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Deep Sub Micron
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Digital design and implementation with field programmable devices / Zainalabedin Navabi (2005)

Digital design using field programmable gate arrays / Pak K. Chan, Samiha Mourad (1994)

Digital systems design with programmable logic / Martin Bolton (1990)

The personal computer workstation for programmable logic design : a case study of the Data I/O Personal Silicon Foundry / by David L. Mallery ( 1988 ) no copies available.

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The long term programmer king, Redmond WA

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So for modern programmable logic devices, when you need more speed than software can deliver:

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Who cares ??

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VM, you've never tried to learn about such things? Has to be more interesting than pro sports, the stock market and bit coin, or Donald Trump.

So since I will be learning more about these old and new programmable logic devices from books first, before going to data sheets and app notes, I want to steer this in a bit of a different direction for a while.

Niklaus WIrth
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Home Page
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PICL, programming language for Microcontroller PIC
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So, using the product of MicroChip Technologies
microchip.com

Microchip Technology Inc.
2355 West Chandler Blvd.
Chandler, Arizona, USA 85224-6199

Read through a mountain of their data sheets years ago.

Books?

Microcontroller programming : the microchip PIC / Julio Sanchez, Maria P. Canton 2007 CRC Press

Running small motors with PIC microcontrollers / Harprit Singh Sandhu. 2009
talks about Microchip Technology PIC 16F877A and PIC 18F4331

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^^^^^ Isn't it more interesting than sports or the stock market? I know politics is more interesting.

About ARM Processors:

arm.com
HQ in San Jose ( Atmel building? )

Also in Chandler AZ

Atmel used to have ARM 11, which was 4x ARM 9 processors on a chip. Not seeing this anymore.

en.wikipedia.org

But want to find book before getting wound into manufacturer data.

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And so, books about ARM processors?

Digital design and computer architecture / Sarah L. Harris ; David Money Harris (2015)
(not really available)

Assembly language programming : ARM Cortex-M3 / Vincent Mahout (2012) (not really available)

ARM system developer's guide : designing and optimizing system software / Andrew N. Sloss, Dominic Symes, Chris Wright, with a contribution by John Rayfield. (2004) (not really available)

ARM system-on-chip architecture / Steve Furber (2000) (YES available)

ARM system architecture / Steve Furber (1996) (not really available)

Oh well, 1 book. Maybe I can find others.

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You are probably the only one here interested. Just go away and play with yourself.

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Very interesting new book:
Robotics, Vision and Control [electronic resource] : Fundamental Algorithms In MATLAB℗ʼ Second, Completely Revised, Extended And Updated Edition / by Peter Corke. (2017)

not really available in libraries, yet.

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Neural Networks, do we have available hardware now? People implement the idea, but by simulating it on a Von Neumann computer.

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This gets the right answers. But one of the ideas of neural networks is that everything happens in parallel, so even if they are very large, they are still very fast. Do we have hardware to do this? How does it work and how do I get it?

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DARPA 2009 program, but page not found
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article abstract, 2010
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So, not found much yet. Can I find any books I can get my hands on?

Well we have this, Learning TensorFlow : a guide to building deep learning systems / Tom Hope, Yehezkel S. Resheff, and Itay Lieder.(2017)

Not really sure what this is. Usually I start with the old books. With this kind of a topic I start with the new ones.

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Could well be software, not the hardware for high speed parallel, but I still want to read it.

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So I have not found much about neural network hardware, like microchips. But how about if I try with boards, like maybe as part of single board computers?

Well yes, and article and they say videos
hackaday.com

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So how about floating point processors, I mean besides Intel. And to they do 80bit, and is this supported in the high level languages?

This is interesting:
analog.com

Okay, but back on point:
Floating Point Unit
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developer.arm.com
Here they are again talking about situations where floating point is needed for digital signal processing. They also talk about ARM chips doing floating point for 32 bit and 64 bit. I assume they mean hardware support for this. But no 80bit.

And then Intel's Xeon.
Intended for server applications
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how about on single board computers?
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Well, above is fascinating. So much is available. Not getting simple answers, but that is because so so much is available, and it does so much. Not sure about hardware floating point. But many of these 10 boards have quad core ARM processors, and at high clock rates. That is a monumental amount of computing power.

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So lets look to the far extreme, floating point array processor super computers?

hpcwire.com

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hardware
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Cray
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•The Cray® XC50-AC™ air-cooled supercomputer, supporting NVIDIA Tesla P100 PCIe GPUs, Intel Xeon Scalable processors and ARM-based processors, delivers up to 236 TF peak performance in a 24” cabinet with no requirement for liquid cooling or extra blower cabinets. Ideal for dedicated test, development, AI and analytics use cases, the air-cooled XC50 system offers all of the benefits of our XC50 supercomputer in a smaller form factor.

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So Raspberry Pi with 900Mhz Quad ARM Core
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$35

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Has 40 bit addressing. 32 bit would only go to 4GByte.

•DSP extensions

•VFPv4 Floating Point

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has 16, 32, and 64 bit floating point, but not 80bit. Some floating point DSP becoming common now, like for automotive applications.

DSP extensions
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As I told Dougster when I first jointed, the semiconductor industry has made far more progress funding things themselves, than when it was driving by VC's and the speculative stock market.

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Cavium Thunder, part of what is in a Cray XC50
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Make Super Cheap Computers ( 2016 )

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cavium.com
•The first ARM based SoC that scales up to 48 cores with up to 2.5 GHz core frequency

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Very powerful PC. But they had a special on a "Cloud Server", with a 3.7Ghz processor. I guess no monitor or keyboard, you talk to it only through Ethernet or USB or something. 1T hard drive, or 2T or 3T, but all under $500.

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Introduction to parallel computing / Zbigniew J. Czech, Silesia University of Technology (2016)'

Fundamentals of parallel multicore architecture / Yan Solihin (2016)

Programming models for parallel computing / edited by Pavan Balaji. (2015)

Learning MCollective : parallel server management in Puppet and Chef / Jo Rhett (2014)

Programming massively parallel processors : a hands-on approach / David B. Kirk and Wen-mei W. Hwu. (2013)

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Linear algebra tools for data mining / Dan A. Simovici (2012)

Process algebra : equational theories of communicating processes / J.C.M. Baeten, T. Basten, M.A. Raniers. (2010)

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So where can I learn about PLC's for free?
How about basic electrical test equipment and diagnostic tools?

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Books are usually best. Do you have retail stores and libraries where you are? Amazon.com?

Show me the links to what you have and we can look stuff up.

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So my interest in readind about 22V10's and 16V8's goes beyond whether or not they are still being made. Nevertheless, it would be Atmel, lets see:

So Atmel does indeed now belong to MicroChip
en.wikipedia.org

So they do have this, but they also have stuff they say is pin compatible but has twice the logic.
microchip.com

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ATF22V10CQZ

microchip.com

24 pin dual inline through hole, and also newer surface mount types.

$2.69 to $1.61, but remember, in production you have to program them and really you should be testing them, and some over temp, in my opinion.

basic data sheet, 24 pin, electrically erasable! ( floating gate, tunneling effect? )
ww1.microchip.com
-40 degC to 85 degC under power

clocked power supply current up to 20mA
based on CMOS, for programming might get up to 14v on pins?

has 64bit user signature, plus security fuse to prevent copying.

How to program:
microchip.com

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PLD software
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OrCAD Support
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22v10 applications and data sheet
datasheetarchive.com

Texas Instruments Data Sheet
ti.com

old data, they say not to use in new designs

DATA I/O came up with their ABEL lanaguage

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talk about applications:
krazytech.com

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Atmel 22v10 and 16v8
atmelcorporation.wordpress.com

Flash based ( instead of thermal fuse blow ) 22v10 in 24 pin dip package
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Here is their double the logic stuff, but are these single source IC's?
atmelcorporation.wordpress.com

^^^ above pages screwed up.

Microchip home:
microchip.com

should cover it:
microchip.com

referred to as CPLD, I guess meaning CMOS PLD. Below lists 4 different chips:
microchip.com

for example, ATF750C, twice the density of 22V10, dip package or surface mount
microchip.com

Wow, $4 or $5, much more than 22v10, but some stuff over $60!

complete data sheet ( want to see how it does more than 22v10 )
ww1.microchip.com

I guess it does more, but I still have more to learn. Concerned about continued relevance in this era of System On a Chip, and also about single vendor solutions, or products going out of production.

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$9 board with over 150 addons. Then also you could have 3rd party addons.

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Says it also has this on chip:
processors.wiki.ti.com

Not sure how many ARM cores or if their is a floating point math core on this one.

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So this stuff works by CMOS electrically programmable and erasable memory, I believe. Can only erase and reprogram so many times. Should be able to develop software by simulating on computer.

beagleboard.org

512 MB Ram, for your run time. A HUGE memory for running a program.

Beagle Board Green dumps the HDMI connector, so more for real embedded, putting in instead these two Grove connectors.

4GB 8-bit eMMC on-board flash storage, huge huge, all you get with 32 bit address space is 4GB. Vast memory.

Has its own WIFI, so I presume you could download stuff which needs to be stored that way.

Solid State Drives versus eMMC flash
howtogeek.com

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eMMC vs. SSD: Not All Solid-State Storage is Equal
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“eMMC” is what is in these boards.

SSD is better, for heavy use, more sophisticated management:

Solid State Drive
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In my mind, these little boards would be connected directly, like private RS-485, to a computer with a moving magnetic hard disk. The flash or SSD on the board would be just for holding a loader.

The program it runs and the data would be in its RAM volatile space. 512 MB for Beagle Board Green.

Could use more of its 4GB flash, but not necessary.

And also, the board only costs $29.

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So is eMMC flash what I think it is?

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This seems to be to blur what I thought the idea was, that it is non-volatile, meaning that there does no have to be continuous power.

It says here that flash is nonvolatile.
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Flash Memory
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"NAND-type flash memory may be written and read in blocks (or pages) which are generally much smaller than the entire device. NOR-type flash allows a single machine word (byte) to be written – to an erased location – or read independently."

Floating Gate MOSFET
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The gate of the FGMOS is electrically isolated, creating a floating node in DC

Usually Fowler-Nordheim tunneling and hot-carrier injection mechanisms are used to modify the amount of charge stored in the FG.

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Nonvolatile semiconductor memory technology : a comprehensive guide to understanding and to using NVSM devices / edited by William D. Brown, Joe E. Brewer. [ 1998 ]

getting into floating gate for analog and neural networks

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There are book around about Rasberry PI programming, pertaining to robotics and pertaining to Python.

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Beginning Artificial Intelligence with the Raspberry Pi / Donald J. Norris (2017)

Hamshack Raspberry Pi : how to use the Raspberry Pi for amateur radio activities / James Baughn K9EOH (2017)

Raspberry Pi with Java : programming the Internet of things (IoT) / Stephen Chin with James L. Weaver (2016)

Raspberry Pi cookbook : software and hardware problems and solutions / Dr. Simon Monk (2016)

Raspberry Pi user guide / Eben Upton and Gareth Halfacree (2016)

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Exploring Raspberry Pi : interfacing to the real world with embedded Linux / Derek Molloy  (2016)

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I'm not really enamored with how they are using these single board computers, connecting a keyboard and monitor, and making it a stand alone machine with and 8Gbit SD or MicroSD.

I think the strength in the boards is on making them work as an extension of desk top computer. Nevertheless though, these guys had done a good job, and especially with the software.

Here, talking about running Mathematica and doing symbolic algebra on the Raspberry PI, and that beinge part of the standard Raspbian Distribution??

projects.raspberrypi.org

Better on the desktop computer, with standard disk drives. But still, this is impressive.

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This is a good book, but old:

Power control with solid state devices / Irving M. Gottlieb. (1985)

here:

Power electronics : circuits, devices, and applications / Muhammad H. Rashid. (1993)

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Better way to get to it:

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Part 2
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Power electronics and motor drive systems / Stefanos N. Manias (2017)

Power electronic converters and systems : frontiers and applications / edited by Andrzej M. Trzynadlowski (2015)

Power electronic systems : walsh analysis with MATLAB / Anish Deb, Suchismita Ghosh (2014)

Designing control loops for linear and switching power supplies : a tutorial guide / Christophe Basso. (2012 Artech House )

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I'll have this book about the opera Carmen in hand soon.
Georges Bizet : his life and work / Winton Dean. (1965)

Carmen, full opera
youtube.com

Okay, this Indiana University version is playing now. It is from their 2015-2016 season.
music.indiana.edu

Better way to get to it:

Part 1
media.dlib.indiana.edu

Part 2
media.dlib.indiana.edu

And here, program with some commentary:
music.indiana.edu

So lets see how some of this sounds when played fixed pitch, i.e. organ:

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Hal Ashby
theringer.com

en.wikipedia.org

Obama Delivers Stinging Rebuke, Standing Up To Bullies, not following them.
yahoo.com

Roe v. Wade in Danger: Released Docs Reveal Kavanaugh Thinks Abortion Decision Is Not “Settled Law”
democracynow.org

As 400+ Children Remain Separated From Parents, Trump Admin Wants to Detain Kids Indefinitely
democracynow.org

Mason, 1971
youtube.com

Hypercapitalism : the modern economy, its values, and how to change them / Larry Gonick, Timothy Kasser. (2018, graphic novel)

amazon.com

HEADSTONE CIRCUS - Headstone Circus - 1968 (FULL ALBUM) [Psychedelic Rock]
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solar edge

solaredge.com

Support for three phase 208V and 277/480V grids

solaredge.com

SolarEdge Technologies Inc.
47505 Seabridge Drive,
Fremont, CA, 94538

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So what is going on with Lambda, and still in San Diego, as well as Mexico?

us.tdk-lambda.com

Not clear where this is.

HQ for TDK is Japan
en.wikipedia.org

87k plus employees!

global.tdk.com

lots of basic component products
product.tdk.com

Lambda America
us.tdk-lambda.com

Says National City, CA

right between San Diego and Chula Vista

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Here they list it on Del Sol Boulevard in San Diego, founded 1948

Check this out, biomagnetic sensors:
product.tdk.com

Lambda University
us.tdk-lambda.com

On board DC-DC converters
product.tdk.com

around 10 watts

for example:

product.tdk.com

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Indiana U, need to use Mozilla:

Part 1
media.dlib.indiana.edu

Part 2
media.dlib.indiana.edu

Mexican Independence Day, Sept 16th, 1810
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BMW 3 series, always getting bigger, and no more 2 doors.

But now a 2 series:

bmwusa.com

almost like those old 2002's.

335-hp M240i xDrive Coupe, sprints from 0-60 mph in as little as 4.2 seconds

4 cylinder inline 2.0 liters, $35,300 starting price.

$45,800 for the M version, 6 cylinder inline 3 liters.

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Thank you there ppwh.

And again, thank you Founder for reopening our old threads. This forum is getting better and better every day!

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OT: Assembler, C/C++, Embedded Systems, Machine Architectures, Development Systems, JTAG, Rust
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Branching off from an earlier thread

OT: Computer Programming
tuscl.net

And also

OT: Programmable Logic Devices
tuscl.net

OT: Power Semiconductors, recent books about
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Web Programming, HTML, CSS, and more
tuscl.net

Programable Hand Held Calculators
tuscl.net

Everything for Everyone: The Radical Tradition That Is Shaping the Next Economy,
by Nathan Schneider
amazon.com

Everything for everyone : the radical tradition that is shaping the next economy / Nathan Schneider. (2018)

Interview
democracynow.org

The Power of Cooperatives: Nathan Schneider & Jason Wiener at The Harvard Law Forum
youtube.com

Antifa, the antifascist handbook
by Mark Bray
amazon.com

Antifa : the anti-fascist handbook / Mark Bray (2017)

Steve Jobs ' Most Inspiring Speech EVER ( facebook login required )
facebook.com

I am glad that Steve Jobs was not being subjected to Motivational, Self-Improvement, or Financial Literacy teachers. If he was, then I am sure that he would have known that the best response, really the only response, is the middle-finger.

And some more great threads:

OT: Are Traditional Colleges and Universities Bad Environments?
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Incels (Involuntary Celibates)
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Vocels (Voluntary Celibates)
tuscl.net

OT: Book Publishing Industry
tuscl.net

Alternative Educations
tuscl.net

While being yourself in a profession isn't always possible , it certainly is to a greater extent than most ppl realize.l
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Stop holding doors for us if you don't want to talk about ending rape culture as much as wanna talk about other political issues
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So What Do Women Like To Read?
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BAKER GURVITZ ARMY - Live 1975
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studio
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Programming FPGAs : getting started with Verilog / Simon Monk. (2017)

The ARRL handbook for radio communications 2017 / H. Ward Silver, editor.

Elliot Rodger Manifesto, 2014, 11 hours, human voice reading
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Baker Gurwitz Army

Clark Kerr: Knowledge Industry
youtube.com

Mario Savio on the operation of the machine
youtube.com

Mario Savio Memorial Lecture: Robert Reich on Class Warfare in America
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