For example 22V10, GAL22V10, from Lattice. Now discontinued.
But Atmel makes: Atmel ATF22V10
But the topic is opened up here. 16V8 was another one. en.wikipedia.org
SJG
Michael Kimmel, Angry White Men, video youtube.com
Boys Will Be Boys, video youtube.com
Gimme Shelter youtube.com
Dave Matthews Band - All Along The Watchtower youtube.com


Replies (76)Latest
Tunnel FETS Fundamentals of tunnel field-effect transistors / Sneh Saurabh, Mamidala Jagadesh Kumar (2017)
Deep Sub Micron A layout and design methodology for deep sub-micron applications using networks of PLAs (Memorandum) (1998)
Compact models for integrated circuit design : conventional transistors and beyond / Samar K. Saha.(2016)
Wideband cmos receivers (2015)
Beginning FPGA: Programming Metal [electronic resource] : Your brain on hardware / by Aiken Pang, Peter Membrey. (2017)
Digital design and implementation with field programmable devices / Zainalabedin Navabi (2005)
Digital design using field programmable gate arrays / Pak K. Chan, Samiha Mourad (1994)
Digital systems design with programmable logic / Martin Bolton (1990)
The personal computer workstation for programmable logic design : a case study of the Data I/O Personal Silicon Foundry / by David L. Mallery ( 1988 ) no copies available.
SJG
Michael Kimmel youtube.com
Programmable Array Logic en.wikipedia.org
The long term programmer king, Redmond WA
SJG
So for modern programmable logic devices, when you need more speed than software can deliver:
SJG
Lattice Semiconductor, Portland Oregon en.wikipedia.org
Programmable Logic (FPGA, CPLD, and power / thermal management devices)
Really quite impressive, very modern offering: latticesemi.com
w/ video latticesemi.com
SJG
Against Therapy amazon.com
Rush - Working Man youtube.com
Who cares ??
VM, you've never tried to learn about such things? Has to be more interesting than pro sports, the stock market and bit coin, or Donald Trump.
So since I will be learning more about these old and new programmable logic devices from books first, before going to data sheets and app notes, I want to steer this in a bit of a different direction for a while.
Niklaus WIrth en.wikipedia.org
Home Page people.inf.ethz.ch
PICL, programming language for Microcontroller PIC people.inf.ethz.ch
So, using the product of MicroChip Technologies microchip.com
Microchip Technology Inc. 2355 West Chandler Blvd. Chandler, Arizona, USA 85224-6199
Read through a mountain of their data sheets years ago.
Books?
Microcontroller programming : the microchip PIC / Julio Sanchez, Maria P. Canton 2007 CRC Press
Running small motors with PIC microcontrollers / Harprit Singh Sandhu. 2009 talks about Microchip Technology PIC 16F877A and PIC 18F4331
SJG
NOLA sidewalk image.nola.com
Eric Clapton & Sheryl Crow - "White Room" (Live from Central Park) youtube.com
Status Anxiety by Alain De Botton 2005 amazon.com
Money and the Meaning of Life, 1994, by Jacob Needleman amazon.com
I could care less.
^^^^^ Isn't it more interesting than sports or the stock market? I know politics is more interesting.
About ARM Processors:
arm.com HQ in San Jose ( Atmel building? )
Also in Chandler AZ
Atmel used to have ARM 11, which was 4x ARM 9 processors on a chip. Not seeing this anymore.
But want to find book before getting wound into manufacturer data.
SJG
And so, books about ARM processors?
Digital design and computer architecture / Sarah L. Harris ; David Money Harris (2015) (not really available)
Assembly language programming : ARM Cortex-M3 / Vincent Mahout (2012) (not really available)
ARM system developer's guide : designing and optimizing system software / Andrew N. Sloss, Dominic Symes, Chris Wright, with a contribution by John Rayfield. (2004) (not really available)
ARM system-on-chip architecture / Steve Furber (2000) (YES available)
ARM system architecture / Steve Furber (1996) (not really available)
Oh well, 1 book. Maybe I can find others.
SJG
You are probably the only one here interested. Just go away and play with yourself.
Founder, looks like you've left off the menu part which lets us edit our profiles, and the part which lets us get to our PM's.
Very interesting new book: Robotics, Vision and Control [electronic resource] : Fundamental Algorithms In MATLAB℗ʼ Second, Completely Revised, Extended And Updated Edition / by Peter Corke. (2017)
not really available in libraries, yet.
SJG
Neural Networks, do we have available hardware now? People implement the idea, but by simulating it on a Von Neumann computer.
This gets the right answers. But one of the ideas of neural networks is that everything happens in parallel, so even if they are very large, they are still very fast. Do we have hardware to do this? How does it work and how do I get it?
DARPA 2009 program, but page not found neurdon.com
article abstract, 2010 sciencedirect.com
So, not found much yet. Can I find any books I can get my hands on?
Well we have this, Learning TensorFlow : a guide to building deep learning systems / Tom Hope, Yehezkel S. Resheff, and Itay Lieder.(2017)
Not really sure what this is. Usually I start with the old books. With this kind of a topic I start with the new ones.
Could well be software, not the hardware for high speed parallel, but I still want to read it.
SJG
So I have not found much about neural network hardware, like microchips. But how about if I try with boards, like maybe as part of single board computers?
Well yes, and article and they say videos hackaday.com
SJG
So how about floating point processors, I mean besides Intel. And to they do 80bit, and is this supported in the high level languages?
This is interesting: analog.com
Okay, but back on point: Floating Point Unit en.wikipedia.org
developer.arm.com Here they are again talking about situations where floating point is needed for digital signal processing. They also talk about ARM chips doing floating point for 32 bit and 64 bit. I assume they mean hardware support for this. But no 80bit.
And then Intel's Xeon. Intended for server applications en.wikipedia.org
how about on single board computers? eetimes.com
Well, above is fascinating. So much is available. Not getting simple answers, but that is because so so much is available, and it does so much. Not sure about hardware floating point. But many of these 10 boards have quad core ARM processors, and at high clock rates. That is a monumental amount of computing power.
SJG
So lets look to the far extreme, floating point array processor super computers?
hardware insidehpc.com
Cray cray.com
Seattle WA
•The Cray® XC50™ supercomputer supports the newest generation of CPU and GPU processors — Cavium ThunderX2 processors, NVIDIA® Tesla® P100 PCIe GPUs and Intel® Xeon® Scalable processors — coupled with the Aries™ network and Cray’s HPC-optimized software stack including the Cray Linux® Environment and Cray Programing Environment, to deliver our fastest system with peak system performance of 500 PF and 1 PF in a single cabinet. •The Cray® XC50-AC™ air-cooled supercomputer, supporting NVIDIA Tesla P100 PCIe GPUs, Intel Xeon Scalable processors and ARM-based processors, delivers up to 236 TF peak performance in a 24” cabinet with no requirement for liquid cooling or extra blower cabinets. Ideal for dedicated test, development, AI and analytics use cases, the air-cooled XC50 system offers all of the benefits of our XC50 supercomputer in a smaller form factor.
SJG
Led Zeppelin: Live on Danish TV youtube.com
So Raspberry Pi with 900Mhz Quad ARM Core eetimes.com
$35
Has 40 bit addressing. 32 bit would only go to 4GByte.
•DSP extensions
•VFPv4 Floating Point
has 16, 32, and 64 bit floating point, but not 80bit. Some floating point DSP becoming common now, like for automotive applications.
DSP extensions developer.arm.com
As I told Dougster when I first jointed, the semiconductor industry has made far more progress funding things themselves, than when it was driving by VC's and the speculative stock market.
SJG
Inducting women into my group: tuscl.net
California Dreamin' - Royal Gigolos youtube.com
san_jose_guy urbandictionary.com
Cavium Thunder, part of what is in a Cray XC50 en.wikipedia.org
Make Super Cheap Computers ( 2016 )
SJG
Led Zeppelin, 1969 Danish TV youtube.com
cavium.com •The first ARM based SoC that scales up to 48 cores with up to 2.5 GHz core frequency
SJG
Like they've always said of this, its so the ladies can dance. Learned his trade playing for women to undress. The quintessential example of call and response music. youtube.com
FBI using a different def'n of rape. Not sure what to make of this.
"For more than eight decades, the FBI classified “forcible rape” as “the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” In 2013, it reclassified the crime as “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Naturally, that broadened the scope of the crime. The FBI estimated that the old terminology excluded 40 percent of rapes."
Very powerful PC. But they had a special on a "Cloud Server", with a 3.7Ghz processor. I guess no monitor or keyboard, you talk to it only through Ethernet or USB or something. 1T hard drive, or 2T or 3T, but all under $500.
SJG
NVIDIA® Tesla® P100 PCIe GPUs
SJG
Soul Sacrifice youtube.com
Introduction to parallel computing / Zbigniew J. Czech, Silesia University of Technology (2016)'
Fundamentals of parallel multicore architecture / Yan Solihin (2016)
Programming models for parallel computing / edited by Pavan Balaji. (2015)
Learning MCollective : parallel server management in Puppet and Chef / Jo Rhett (2014)
Programming massively parallel processors : a hands-on approach / David B. Kirk and Wen-mei W. Hwu. (2013)
SJG
Linear algebra tools for data mining / Dan A. Simovici (2012)
Process algebra : equational theories of communicating processes / J.C.M. Baeten, T. Basten, M.A. Raniers. (2010)
SJG
So where can I learn about PLC's for free? How about basic electrical test equipment and diagnostic tools?
Books are usually best. Do you have retail stores and libraries where you are? Amazon.com?
Show me the links to what you have and we can look stuff up.
SJG
So my interest in readind about 22V10's and 16V8's goes beyond whether or not they are still being made. Nevertheless, it would be Atmel, lets see:
So Atmel does indeed now belong to MicroChip en.wikipedia.org
So they do have this, but they also have stuff they say is pin compatible but has twice the logic. microchip.com
SJG
ATF22V10CQZ
24 pin dual inline through hole, and also newer surface mount types.
$2.69 to $1.61, but remember, in production you have to program them and really you should be testing them, and some over temp, in my opinion.
basic data sheet, 24 pin, electrically erasable! ( floating gate, tunneling effect? ) ww1.microchip.com -40 degC to 85 degC under power
clocked power supply current up to 20mA based on CMOS, for programming might get up to 14v on pins?
has 64bit user signature, plus security fuse to prevent copying.
How to program: microchip.com
PLD software ww1.microchip.com
OrCAD Support db.zmitac.aei.polsl.pl
22v10 applications and data sheet datasheetarchive.com
Texas Instruments Data Sheet ti.com
old data, they say not to use in new designs
DATA I/O came up with their ABEL lanaguage
talk about applications: krazytech.com
SJG
Atmel 22v10 and 16v8 atmelcorporation.wordpress.com
Flash based ( instead of thermal fuse blow ) 22v10 in 24 pin dip package kanda.com
Here is their double the logic stuff, but are these single source IC's? atmelcorporation.wordpress.com
^^^ above pages screwed up.
Microchip home: microchip.com
should cover it: microchip.com
referred to as CPLD, I guess meaning CMOS PLD. Below lists 4 different chips: microchip.com
for example, ATF750C, twice the density of 22V10, dip package or surface mount microchip.com
Wow, $4 or $5, much more than 22v10, but some stuff over $60!
complete data sheet ( want to see how it does more than 22v10 ) ww1.microchip.com
I guess it does more, but I still have more to learn. Concerned about continued relevance in this era of System On a Chip, and also about single vendor solutions, or products going out of production.
SJG
THis is really loaded, and only $39
SJG
$9 board with over 150 addons. Then also you could have 3rd party addons.
SJG
UBI ( Universal Basic Income ) amazon.com
The Vietnam War PBS Episode 3: The River Styx (January 1964-December 1965) youtube.com
Humming Board Gate, $9
HummingBoard Gate is fully supported by the OpenHAB home automation project.
can upgrade to solid-run.com
SJG
Chicago youtube.com
Aerosmith Walk This Way youtube.com
Booker T and the MG's youtube.com
Hank and Cupcakes, paint only youtube.com
The Vietnam War PBS Episode 3: The River Styx (January 1964-December 1965) youtube.com
The Battle For Puerto Rico democracynow.org
eetimes.com $39 board
Open Source committed non-profit: beagleboard.org
SJG
Beagle Board is in MI = Michigan
SJG
enclosures, Raspberry PI
Intel Galileo Gen 2
Banana Pi M2
The Banana Pi M2 (Source: Foxconn Technology Group/Fuchang OSS Foundation)
SJG
ex-Doors, Moscow 2011 youtube.com
The Vietnam War Season 1 Episode 03 The River Styx (January 1964December 1965) youtube.com
I like these two girls: imagefap.com
So these guys make enclosures and breakout boards
And so this is Beagle Board Green, $39 eetimes.com
So discussion of Beagle Board Green starts with this alarm project. seeed.cc
Beagle Board beagleboard.org
here are their other products, up to an Arm Cortex A8, 1ghz beagleboard.org
Well hard to make total sense of this, but it works for BeagleBoard Black ti.com
SJG
Ginger Baker's Airforce youtube.com
Flexible Transistor?? techopedia.com
Says it also has this on chip: processors.wiki.ti.com
Not sure how many ARM cores or if their is a floating point math core on this one.
SJG
So BeagleBoard Green does also have a Neon Floating Point Accerator beagleboard.org
Lots of I/O, and just simple leaders, presumably for basic digital parallel io.
SJG
Libertarian BitCoin Fantasies, Puerto Rico democracynow.org
Yes or No? Puerto Rico I think foryou2view.files.wordpress.com
Case for BeagleBoard
SJG
So this stuff works by CMOS electrically programmable and erasable memory, I believe. Can only erase and reprogram so many times. Should be able to develop software by simulating on computer.
512 MB Ram, for your run time. A HUGE memory for running a program.
Beagle Board Green dumps the HDMI connector, so more for real embedded, putting in instead these two Grove connectors.
4GB 8-bit eMMC on-board flash storage, huge huge, all you get with 32 bit address space is 4GB. Vast memory.
Has its own WIFI, so I presume you could download stuff which needs to be stored that way.
Solid State Drives versus eMMC flash howtogeek.com
SJG
NOLO, Chartres - Iberville, doesn't the black girl in purple look good? I think this picture originally came from Google Street View s.hdnux.com
Chelsea Manning, running for the US Senate from Maryland, quite interesting democracynow.org
Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975, Studio Album) 09 Any World (That I'm Welcome To) youtube.com
Bring It On! An Inflated Stock Market Is Evidence of Spiritual Sickness, And It Is The Death Of Creativity And Innovation msn.com
eMMC vs. SSD: Not All Solid-State Storage is Equal howtogeek.com
“eMMC” is what is in these boards.
SSD is better, for heavy use, more sophisticated management:
Solid State Drive howtogeek.com
In my mind, these little boards would be connected directly, like private RS-485, to a computer with a moving magnetic hard disk. The flash or SSD on the board would be just for holding a loader.
The program it runs and the data would be in its RAM volatile space. 512 MB for Beagle Board Green.
Could use more of its 4GB flash, but not necessary.
And also, the board only costs $29.
SJG
YouTube Shooting abcnews.go.com
Led Zeppelin, 1969, Danish TV youtube.com
So is eMMC flash what I think it is?
This seems to be to blur what I thought the idea was, that it is non-volatile, meaning that there does no have to be continuous power.
It says here that flash is nonvolatile. en.wikipedia.org
SJG
Flash Memory en.wikipedia.org
"NAND-type flash memory may be written and read in blocks (or pages) which are generally much smaller than the entire device. NOR-type flash allows a single machine word (byte) to be written – to an erased location – or read independently."
Floating Gate MOSFET en.wikipedia.org
The gate of the FGMOS is electrically isolated, creating a floating node in DC
Usually Fowler-Nordheim tunneling and hot-carrier injection mechanisms are used to modify the amount of charge stored in the FG.
Nonvolatile semiconductor memory technology : a comprehensive guide to understanding and to using NVSM devices / edited by William D. Brown, Joe E. Brewer. [ 1998 ]
getting into floating gate for analog and neural networks
SJG
Quantum Tunneling and Hot Carrier Injection!
NOR Flash, usually can execute code in place. en.wikipedia.org
NAND en.wikipedia.org
And usually with this new solder ball attachment to a PCB, they are X-raying it.
SJG
Interesting:
SJG
Never liked this company because of the control and herd think which it creates. But nevertheless, the scope of their activities cannot be disregarded:
SJG
EG Systems, 300mm ( 12 inch ) prober. No longer something 1 person can just pick up and put on a bench top.
High resolution, okay delicate technologies, cassette to cassette, even over temperature!
SJG
SJG
SJG
The Atmel ATF22V10 makes my cock hard. If I hadn't broken my phone camera on a stripper's nipple piercing, I would send a pic!
:) :) :)
SJG
Lithium Ion 18650
SJG
I think they must have lithium ion batteries now for starting combustion cars? Used to be that spiral cell was the supreme. But now they have some that go over $500, starting battery for a compact car!
SJG
Lithium Ion Starting Battery
$525
SJG
Humble Pie, Catfish Blues youtube.com
Lithium 18650 benefits and myths
Lithium process chemistry : resources, extraction, batteries, and recycling / edited by Alexandre Chagnes, Jolanta Światowska. (2015)
The powerhouse : inside the invention of a battery to save the world / Steve LeVine. (2015)
The TAB battery book : an in-depth guide to construction, design, and use / Michael Root (2011)
SJG
SJG
There are book around about Rasberry PI programming, pertaining to robotics and pertaining to Python.
SJG
Beginning Artificial Intelligence with the Raspberry Pi / Donald J. Norris (2017)
Hamshack Raspberry Pi : how to use the Raspberry Pi for amateur radio activities / James Baughn K9EOH (2017)
Raspberry Pi with Java : programming the Internet of things (IoT) / Stephen Chin with James L. Weaver (2016)
Raspberry Pi cookbook : software and hardware problems and solutions / Dr. Simon Monk (2016)
Raspberry Pi user guide / Eben Upton and Gareth Halfacree (2016)
Learning computer architecture with Raspberry Pi / Eben Upton, Jeff Duntemann, Ralph Roberts, Tim Mamtora and Ben Everard (2016)
Exploring Raspberry Pi : interfacing to the real world with embedded Linux / Derek Molloy (2016)
Raspberry Pi electronics projects for the evil genius / Donald Norris (2016)
Learn electronics with Raspberry Pi : physical computing with circuits, sensors, outputs, and projects / Stewart Watkiss (2016)
SJG
Fiber Optic Gyroscope en.wikipedia.org
Do Segway's use these?
"The dynamics of the Segway PT are similar to a classic control problem, the inverted pendulum. It uses brushless DC electric motors in each wheel powered by lithium-ion batteries with balance achieved using tilt sensors, and gyroscopic sensors developed by BAE Systems' Advanced Technology Centre.["
SJG
Just learned of this:
Data communications and networking / Behrouz A. Forouzan with Sophia Chung Fegan
Forouzan, Behrouz A. New York : McGraw-Hill Higher Education, [2007] ©2007 Fourth edition.
Format:Books & Journals
More Details
Descript
xxxiv, 1134 pages : illustrations ; 24 cm
Series
McGraw-Hill Forouzan networking series.
Note
Includes bibliographical references (pages 1107-1110) and index.
Subject
Data transmission systems.
Computer networks.
Alt Author
Fegan, Sophia Chung.
And then also of
And then also of
Introduction to copper cabling : application for telecommunications, data communications and networking / John Crisp
Crisp, John Oxford ; Boston : Newnes, 2002
Format:Books & Journals
More Details
Descript
vii, 215 p. : ill. ; 24 cm
Note
Includes bibliographical references (p. 183) and index
Subject
Telecommunication cables
Copper wire
Practical Electrical Engineering, a massive and quite diverse book amazon.com
SJG
Arnold Schönberg: Pélleas und Melisande op.5 (1903) youtube.com
Support Single Moms images10.newegg.com
Returning to Beagle Board Green
SJG
LED Colors www1.eere.energy.gov
SJG
KPMG advisory.kpmg.us
Raspberry Pi For Dummies amazon.com
I'm not really enamored with how they are using these single board computers, connecting a keyboard and monitor, and making it a stand alone machine with and 8Gbit SD or MicroSD.
I think the strength in the boards is on making them work as an extension of desk top computer. Nevertheless though, these guys had done a good job, and especially with the software.
Here, talking about running Mathematica and doing symbolic algebra on the Raspberry PI, and that beinge part of the standard Raspbian Distribution??
Better on the desktop computer, with standard disk drives. But still, this is impressive.
SJG
This is a good book, but old:
Power control with solid state devices / Irving M. Gottlieb. (1985)
here:
Power electronics : circuits, devices, and applications / Muhammad H. Rashid. (1993)
SJG
Polycrystalline silicon en.wikipedia.org
Solar cells and energy materials / Takeo Oku (2017)
Fermions and Bozons, look at table of contents: amazon.com
SJG
ST Microelectronics digikey.com
SJG
I'll have this book about the opera Carmen in hand soon. Georges Bizet : his life and work / Winton Dean. (1965)
Carmen, full opera youtube.com
Okay, this Indiana University version is playing now. It is from their 2015-2016 season. music.indiana.edu
Better way to get to it:
Part 1 media.dlib.indiana.edu
Part 2 media.dlib.indiana.edu
And here, program with some commentary: music.indiana.edu
So lets see how some of this sounds when played fixed pitch, i.e. organ:
Hal Ashby theringer.com
Obama Delivers Stinging Rebuke, Standing Up To Bullies, not following them. yahoo.com
Roe v. Wade in Danger: Released Docs Reveal Kavanaugh Thinks Abortion Decision Is Not “Settled Law” democracynow.org
As 400+ Children Remain Separated From Parents, Trump Admin Wants to Detain Kids Indefinitely democracynow.org
Mason, 1971 youtube.com
Hypercapitalism : the modern economy, its values, and how to change them / Larry Gonick, Timothy Kasser. (2018, graphic novel)
Plastic solar cells, carbon nanotubes
SJG
Power electronics : devices, circuits and industrial applications / V.R. Moorthi. (2005)
Power electronics and motor drive systems / Stefanos N. Manias (2017)
Power electronic converters and systems : frontiers and applications / edited by Andrzej M. Trzynadlowski (2015)
Power electronic systems : walsh analysis with MATLAB / Anish Deb, Suchismita Ghosh (2014)
Designing control loops for linear and switching power supplies : a tutorial guide / Christophe Basso. (2012 Artech House )
SJG
I'll have this book about the opera Carmen in hand soon. Georges Bizet : his life and work / Winton Dean. (1965)
Carmen, full opera youtube.com
Okay, this Indiana University version is playing now. It is from their 2015-2016 season. music.indiana.edu
Better way to get to it:
Part 1 media.dlib.indiana.edu
Part 2 media.dlib.indiana.edu
And here, program with some commentary: music.indiana.edu
So lets see how some of this sounds when played fixed pitch, i.e. organ:
Hal Ashby theringer.com
Obama Delivers Stinging Rebuke, Standing Up To Bullies, not following them. yahoo.com
Roe v. Wade in Danger: Released Docs Reveal Kavanaugh Thinks Abortion Decision Is Not “Settled Law” democracynow.org
As 400+ Children Remain Separated From Parents, Trump Admin Wants to Detain Kids Indefinitely democracynow.org
Mason, 1971 youtube.com
Hypercapitalism : the modern economy, its values, and how to change them / Larry Gonick, Timothy Kasser. (2018, graphic novel)
HEADSTONE CIRCUS - Headstone Circus - 1968 (FULL ALBUM) [Psychedelic Rock] youtube.com
solar edge
Support for three phase 208V and 277/480V grids
SolarEdge Technologies Inc. 47505 Seabridge Drive, Fremont, CA, 94538
SJG
So what is going on with Lambda, and still in San Diego, as well as Mexico?
Not clear where this is.
HQ for TDK is Japan en.wikipedia.org
87k plus employees!
lots of basic component products product.tdk.com
Lambda America us.tdk-lambda.com
Says National City, CA
right between San Diego and Chula Vista
bloomberg.com Here they list it on Del Sol Boulevard in San Diego, founded 1948
Check this out, biomagnetic sensors: product.tdk.com
Lambda University us.tdk-lambda.com
On board DC-DC converters product.tdk.com
around 10 watts
for example:
SJG
Indiana U, need to use Mozilla:
Part 1 media.dlib.indiana.edu
Part 2 media.dlib.indiana.edu
Mexican Independence Day, Sept 16th, 1810 tuscl.net
BMW 3 series, always getting bigger, and no more 2 doors.
But now a 2 series:
almost like those old 2002's.
335-hp M240i xDrive Coupe, sprints from 0-60 mph in as little as 4.2 seconds
4 cylinder inline 2.0 liters, $35,300 starting price.
$45,800 for the M version, 6 cylinder inline 3 liters.
:)
Thank you there ppwh.
And again, thank you Founder for reopening our old threads. This forum is getting better and better every day!
SJG
OT: Assembler, C/C++, Embedded Systems, Machine Architectures, Development Systems, JTAG, Rust tuscl.net
Branching off from an earlier thread
OT: Computer Programming tuscl.net
And also
OT: Programmable Logic Devices tuscl.net
OT: Power Semiconductors, recent books about tuscl.net
Web Programming, HTML, CSS, and more tuscl.net
Programable Hand Held Calculators tuscl.net
Everything for Everyone: The Radical Tradition That Is Shaping the Next Economy, by Nathan Schneider amazon.com
Everything for everyone : the radical tradition that is shaping the next economy / Nathan Schneider. (2018)
Interview democracynow.org
The Power of Cooperatives: Nathan Schneider & Jason Wiener at The Harvard Law Forum youtube.com
Antifa, the antifascist handbook by Mark Bray amazon.com
Antifa : the anti-fascist handbook / Mark Bray (2017)
Steve Jobs ' Most Inspiring Speech EVER ( facebook login required ) facebook.com
I am glad that Steve Jobs was not being subjected to Motivational, Self-Improvement, or Financial Literacy teachers. If he was, then I am sure that he would have known that the best response, really the only response, is the middle-finger.
And some more great threads:
OT: Are Traditional Colleges and Universities Bad Environments? tuscl.net
Incels (Involuntary Celibates) tuscl.net
Vocels (Voluntary Celibates) tuscl.net
OT: Book Publishing Industry tuscl.net
Alternative Educations tuscl.net
While being yourself in a profession isn't always possible , it certainly is to a greater extent than most ppl realize.l tuscl.net
Stop holding doors for us if you don't want to talk about ending rape culture as much as wanna talk about other political issues tuscl.net
So What Do Women Like To Read? tuscl.net
BAKER GURVITZ ARMY - Live 1975 youtube.com
studio youtube.com
Programming FPGAs : getting started with Verilog / Simon Monk. (2017)
The ARRL handbook for radio communications 2017 / H. Ward Silver, editor.
Elliot Rodger Manifesto, 2014, 11 hours, human voice reading youtube.com
youtube.com Baker Gurwitz Army
Clark Kerr: Knowledge Industry youtube.com
Mario Savio on the operation of the machine youtube.com
Mario Savio Memorial Lecture: Robert Reich on Class Warfare in America youtube.com
ESS JAY GEE
Join the conversation
Sign in to reply to this discussion.