Alternatives to HiLiter in Phoenix

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• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  Just from reading, Xecutive Showcase? Sometimes listed as Black. SJG
• JohnSmith69

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  7 years ago

  Naturally SJG has an opinion about a city that he’s never been to. When I’m in Phoenix and i ned an alternative to Hi liter I usually go to Christie’s in Tempe. No xtras but full contact dances with pretty hot dancers.
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  Personally I'd save my $$$ and maybe take some SC trps, but: 1) I can personally use saving up some $$$ 2) I like taking SC trips and exploring new clubs/scenes
• Mate27

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  7 years ago

  Candy Store is another club like "Cheers with tits", and you can find a decent looking girl who may be all tied up with regulars. Like all dancers who maintain longevity, they have a list of PLs they service, and it may take several visits before you get put on "preferred" status.
• WetWilly

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  7 years ago

  For me, the answer is AMPs. Totally different experience, but often the same result.
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  I was asking about Xexutive Showcase, not claiming that I actually knew. About AZ AMPs, I have done some Rubmaps searching. Did not look very good. SJG
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  I forgot to mention Blue Moon. My last 3 visits, they didn’t have a single dancer I’d touch with a 10 foot pole. However, if anyone finds a dancer they like, it’s a unique level of 3 dances for $46.
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  Maybe a good # of the HL girls will migrate to a different club
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  The HL environment is so unique, I suspect that any HL dancer would see their income cut in half at any other club. A lot of them may just get out of the SC game.
• timothyjames55

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  7 years ago

  I go to Christie’s if not HiLiter. No extras, but I always seem to get an OTC offer. Haven’t ever indulged there.
• rh48hr

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  7 years ago

  There might be more OTC opportunities at Hi-Liter now so don't discount that aspect. If OTC is not your cup of tea, mark listed good alternatives. On the west side Jaguars and Essex have more of a party vibe and maybe don't fit most mongers idea of a strip club visit (dancers mainly black with some latinas and PAWG). Eve's Tease has some diamond in the rough dancers. I've seen a couple of pretty hot chicks from there. There are a few AMP's where you can get what you need, but it's not the SC experience. You might get off but you are in and out in under an hour. If you are just in need of busting a nut, great, but if you want some time to talk and get to know someone, this isn't for you. I've done them a few times and I prefer SC's.
• azdd

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  7 years ago

  RH is right about more HL girls willing to do OTC, or to increase their mileage/$$$ for OTC. I’m going to date myself here, but Phoenix used to have a decent crop of “jack shacks” where you could get naked in a private room with some really hot chicks and get your rocks off. Remember those big ads in The Bachelor Beat newspaper? Compared to the mileage we’ve known in the last few years in SCs, these places were mostly a ripoff, but they did have some amazingly hot girls. These places disappeared rather suddenly, but I remember some good sessions!
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  I used to find reasons to go to Tucson back when Candy Store was unlimited mileage and all the Phoenix clubs were low mileage. Maybe it’s time for a short road trip to Venoms.
• azdd

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  7 years ago

  I haven't been to Venom, but it is definitely UHM in the cabanas. I read similar stories about Raiders Reef, but haven't spent any time sat either club. The only Tucson club I visit with any regularity is Curves,better looking girls IMHO. Mileage is generally lower although I've had some decent fun n their VIP room.
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  Tuscon Venom is a place people have posted about and that I had taken note of. SJG
• WetWilly

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  7 years ago

  Mark94, At Blue Moon, have you seen Bama? She is back to Saturday's only, but I think you may find her rather different than most women here. I think you said you don't like Maya, though, if I recall?
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  I’m horrible with names so I don’t remember Bama or Maya by name. I prefer slender, fit women. It’s been at least 2 years since I saw one of those on the day shift at BM. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
• 79terrier

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  7 years ago

  The Candy Store can be hit or miss, but there is occasional mileage in the VIP. A shame we lost both HL and Centerfolds. Always need a backup
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  Had been this Xecutive Showcase, which people said was black. Either of these places now at that address? Essex [view link] Eve's Tease [view link] Dives and shit holes in Phoenix? Black ones? SJG
• 79terrier

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  7 years ago

  I haven't been to Essex, Eve's is a no-alcohol, divey kind of club. Not even sure it's open days.
• jebutch

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  7 years ago

  The strange thing here is that I have been to HL and haven't noticed some huge change. It seems like situation normal there. I'm all for discussing alternatives (Christie's is always a worthy visit, IMO) but HL isn't dead.
• Chrisjenk94

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  7 years ago

  I think the term dead refers to 2 of the high profile VIP high mileage providers Amanda/Stephanie/Miley and Shelby being let go from the HL.
• Chili Palmer

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  7 years ago

  Another raid yesterday (Tuesday 12/5). No arrests, no tickets (to my knowledge), but there is no doubt there is a campaign of harassment by the Phoenix PD aimed at HL right now. In this case, dude basically was standing by the cooking area of the bar, was really giving off a negative vibe, and, sure enough, started bothering dancers. I'm surprised the dancers can even use the mirrrors in the dressing room, there's so many warning notices in there now. CP
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  I never said HL is dead. I said it has taken a step backward, which it clearly has. The vibe has changed. There is less fun and sense of abandon and more caution. Regulars can still have some fun because their faves trust them. But, the clipboard guys walking the floor, the warnings given to dancers, and the fear of “raids” have changed the nature of the club. It’s no longer the carefree party atmosphere it once was.
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  I like no-alcohol, I like dives, and I like shitholes too. In my coming travels plan first to be visiting black dives and shit holes, and during the day shift. Eve's, Essex, or whatever has become of Xecutive Showcase, could be my first place. SJG New Google Campus, planned for area around San Jose Train Station. [view link]
• Chili Palmer

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  7 years ago

  @jebutch: If you haven't noticed dancers are not allowed to do floor work anymore, then I'd seriously question your powers of observation. Even dancers who've known me for years are a lot more circumspect on the floor with the regular dances. HL lost a couple more high quality dancers yesterday. You keep sluicing off the cream of the club, and pretty soon, all you have left is just average. There are new dancers coming in (like always), and some are pretty darn hot. But when you replace a diamond with a ruby, it's still a downgrade. @SJG: I don't know who talks more about pretending to go to strip clubs--you or Juice. It's a close battle for biggest poser on the board. CP
• JimGassagain

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  7 years ago

  The Juicd is loose on strip club binges, but SJG only visits an AAMP. SJG is racist, and does not like white people.
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  And Chili Palmer, I have never said anything in my above posts, or anywhere else on this board anything which is not true. I have never claimed to have done anything or to have been anywhere unless that is the absolute truth. So I don't know what you are, except a worthless cockroach, waiting to be stepped on. [view link] People do not speak face to face the sorts of garbage you post, because they know that they would never get away with it. You should show more respect. And Gaffigan, SJG has a lifetime of experience with White People, and this includes a particular flavor of shit head, whom indeed he does not like. But there are other types who are his primary role models. SJG Beyonce, better live than in music videos. Hear her real voice, better see what she looks like. [view link]
• DoctorPhil

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  7 years ago

  @san_jose_guy “And Chili Palmer, I have never said anything in my above posts, or anywhere else on this board anything which is not true. I have never claimed to have done anything or to have been anywhere unless that is the absolute truth. oh really? you are such a stupid liar. strictly faithful? moderate cheating? sounds completely true to me. lmfao [view link] @san_jose_guy “I was trying to work out the marriage. When I was doing this I was strictly faithful.” [view link] @san_jose_guy “Well back when I was a PL, trying to survive a horrid marriage by moderate cheating on my wife.”
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  3845 E University Dr, Phoenix, AZ 85034 ^^^^ This is the address for the Xecutive Showcase, which seems to be now defunct. This is it's street view, which now bears a sign saying "VLive". [view link] Industrial neighborhood, often the best for UHM. And the organization I am building would love to have a building like that, and subject to the religious exemption from property tax! :) :) :) But what is VLive? To me this looks like a strip club add: [view link] And here it is, seemingly topless, alcohol, mixed race but could be majority black, but zero reviews: [view link] Now how about Eve's and Essex: The Essex Gentleman's Club 4139 Indian School Rd PhoenixArizona85019 Seems to be topless with alcohol [view link] Eve's Tease 3737 W Indian School Rd PhoenixArizona85019 Looks to be nude, no alcohol, [view link] I am not aware that that state or metro link the two things. So 79terrier has said that Eve's has no alcohol. Could it be that it is a membership club, even if they don't tell you so? If a membership club then it can only be BYOB or no alcohol. Membership clubs can be the very best! So VLive is just south of the airport, very close. Eve's is about 4 miles North West. Essex seems to be just a bit further to the West. All three in industrial areas. So until I get further info, just based on what I see online, my order of visiting would be: 1. Eve's, no alcohol gives better dancers and less ways for LE to act, nude is better, people claim it to be a dive. 2. VLive, BLACK! Laws and rules are meaningless. 3. Chicas, Latina name, could be very UHM oriented, could be. 4. Essex But lets hear more from the people who are out there. SJG [view link]
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  This website may explain what is causing LE activity at HL. Is it being done in the name of trafficking ? [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  ^^^^^^ Thank you for that website, and thank you for being so astute. Moralistic Feminists used to crusade against 'porn'. But now with the internet their message no longer sells. So they have shifted to 'traficking'. SJG Truck Stop Strippers [view link] How Capitalism is Destroying Itself [view link] [view link] Gimme Shelter [view link] Neil Young and Pearl Jam - Rockin' In The Free World [view link]
• WetWilly

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  7 years ago

  I didn't realize Shelby had been asked to leave. Beautiful, classy, but her prices were off the charts.
• Chrisjenk94

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  7 years ago

  Yes Shelby and Amanda were asked to not come back. Not sure where they ended up.
• azdd

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  7 years ago

  The City of Phoenix anti-trafficking goal sounds all warm and fuzzy, but if it's working, how is it that there are probably 50 AMPs spread across the valley, and most of them run BP ads that say something like "new girls, just arrived"? Instead Phoenix PD is hassling one specific strip club that's had its VIP action level too publicized on the internet. I don't buy the current LE attention as having anything to do with anti-trafficking efforts. The CF liquor situation seems much more likely as a motivator for Phx PD.
• Chili Palmer

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  7 years ago

  I wish people were looking at alternatives to HL yesterday. Got to the club @ 4:30, which is not when I ever visit but was on my back to civilization from a site visit in west fucking Peoria and the parking lot and club were packed to the gills. No tables immediately available inside. Late in the afternoon seems like there were a shit ton of groups there: 3,4 or 5 guys probably getting off work and blowing off some steam. Lots of dancers I hadn't seen before and even VIP was packed. CP