Who has actually worked with clubs or strippers?

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oops, left out the part about being advanced at your job solely because you have a vagina lol

I bounced at the Landing Strip in Detroit area for a brief time in the late 80's. It was fucking (literally) crazy. Got out of it after a brief encounter with Bob Probert one night. Idolized him at the time didn't like the direction my life was headed so decided to quit. The owner was very cool called me a couple times afterwards wanted me to do side jobs but passed. The women were amazing and pigs at the same time. Unbelievable how some of them lived

Yeah travelling around with strippers gave me a sense of the highs and lows of how people lived. I went to some mansions overlooking the waterfront to deliver a girl, as well as seedy motels. Usually I'd pick up girls at the agency office although sometimes I'd meet them at their apartment and we'd sit around until called on a booking.

Some of the girls were really quite nice, maybe that experience makes me a smidgen less cynical than some here about them. There was one that I took a long distance to some guy's house, but he had also called another agency as backup (since we encountered that driver waiting around outside). She banged on the door anyway and demanded a twenty for our trouble, and she gave me ten bucks for gas. By then it was daybreak, and a scenic ride back to the city - she told me not to rush back and we just philosophized, enjoying the trip almost like a minor date.

Not personally but some close encounters. I had a guy I did business with who also ran a strip club. He claimed he owned it, but I knew it was somebody else’s money backing him. He did what a typical faux owner of a strip club would do. Fuck strippers and eventually got one preggers. He ended up keeping the kid and the stripper didn’t want anything to do with the kid (or him) and was high on drugs about half of the time. Eventually the guy ran the club into the ground, and disappeared from town literally over night.

Several buddies of mine were bouncers at a strip club when we were in college but they never had any good stripper stories, their stories were more about unruly drunks inside the club.

I used to bounce at an all nude club as a second job about 17 years ago. That was an interesting time of my life. I was single with a pretty good paying job and the bouncing was primarily because I thought it would be fun to work in a strip club. It was an eye opener to see what most of these girls thought of their customers. It was a great time filled with after parties and lots of hook ups. They definitely look at customers as different then other people. It's almost impossible to break out of being a PL in their eyes. Even when you arrange an OTC relationship, you are still a chump to most of them. On the flip side, working with them gives you an in that you can't get any other way. I've seen them work a dude for big money with the suggestion of some OTC, then go home with a broke, not so good looking DJ or bouncer (LOL). As much fun as it is, it's a hard lifestyle to keep up with. Especially if you have to keep a real job.

A college buddy (who lived in the same dorm) was a dj at a strip club. I was young - and had no clubbing money - and he invited me to the club several times. The dancers treated us very well. I was totally confused to see how the dancers fawned over the customers (for cash) - and then how they could turn off that emotion in a second.

It was a great time after hours. I was amazed at the way the strippers would relax and really enjoy hanging with us. There were some great parties - and hook ups. There was a major fail when we tried to sneak two strippers back to our dorm in a laundry cart!

I realized that the dancers looked up to the dj - and some credited his song selection with helping them earn bank. I kind of doubted how playing strip club anthems would make a dancer stand out - but I wasn’t going to tell my buddy!

We have talked about this subject before. I for one would not want to be working in a strip club.

There is a book about the Mitchell Bro's and their theater. The dancers called the male staff, "Eunuchs". I would not like to be in that kind of a role.

Seems like the only way for that to change would be if you had real power and made more money than the girls. That would mean that you would have to be the only one who cannot be fired, the owner.

SJG

Years ago, when I was unemployed, I got it into my head that I wanted to own a strip club one day. I had been hanging out at a local juice bar that had a one-drink minimum and they charged $10 for a bottle of water. I did the math. 40 bottles of water at Costco costs less than $5, and this club was turning that into $400! It seemed like the girls were just a gimick to get guys in the door to pay $10 for a bottle of water. Even if they were just breaking even on everything else, it seemed that they could make a tidy profit from beverages alone. There's nowhere else on earth that I know of where they charge that much and you're obligated to pay it.

So I wanted to buy a club. I figured I would inherit some money one day, and what better place to invest it, right? But first, I rationalized that I should work in the industry for a while and learn the ropes. Since I don't know jack-shit about being a DJ, I decided to try to get a job as a bouncer and then work my way up to management. I'm a very tall man and I figured that clubs would hire me on that basis alone. After all, being a bouncer seemed to be all about nothing more than being tall and looking mean.

Well I was wrong. After applying at probably 10 local clubs, I had been turned down at 9 of them. Most took my name and number and then never called. Finally this one real dump offered me a job. It looked more like a country roadhouse than a strip club, but I accepted it because I wanted the experience. After my meeting with the manager, the head bouncer had a talk with me and told me about all the fights he's broken up and all the drunken patrons he's had to disarm. This was a vastly different impression than the owner had conveyed. Maybe the bouncer lied to me about how rough the place really was; he seemed like a nice guy but perhaps he just felt threatened by another big dude being hired. Or maybe he wanted to hire all the bouncers himself so that he could choose his staff. Regardless, either the bouncer was lying or the owner was.

I went home and thought it over. The place was a real filthy dump, over an hour away from my house, the pay was shit, and now, on top of everything else, this bouncer was telling me that there are fights with broken beer bottles all the time. Even if the bouncer was lying to me, I figured that meant he didn't want me there, and that's not a good thing. I concluded that my dream of working in a titty bar probably wasn't worth a fractured skull, so I decided not to take the job. But I'll always wonder about the road not taken.

20 years ago I worked in to sc's in Atlanta GA. Damn that was fun

@BurlingtonHF - I wonder what the insurance must cost for a club? There are some hands that require greasing here as well.

I don’t want to say too much - I’ll be brief. I worked for a guy - in college - who was a neighbor. He had a marble and stone business. I had no skills - but I was a tall strong kid - who was reliable and a hard worker. At the end of the summer - he let me work shorter hours. In the winter - I worked at his Christmas tree lot. Lots of cash tip in that job! I met my dorm buddy (who was a strip club dj) through him. So I unexpectedly got a view of club work.

The bouncers could be very rough. One bouncer - who became a good friend - would work weekends at the Meadowlands - doing security at football games. He was more dangerous than many of the fans he was supposed to keep safe.

@Cashman1234,

Yeah, I'm sure insurance is a huge nut every month, and many insurers probably wouldn't touch a strip club with a 10-foot pole. I was just assuming that if you add door fees, house fees, the cut from the lap dances and VIPs, and then you subtract insurance, rent, digital advertising, utilities, taxes, bribes, salaries, and other overhead, they would just break even. But then they do have this magical ability to turn a $5 case of bottled water into $400. That's probably the gravy.

That, and, somewhere subconsciously I was also probably assuming that I would be able to fuck some of the dancers for free LOL.

But seriously, yes, the bouncers and managers I spoke to at various clubs could see right through me. I may be tall but I'm basically still a pussy and they knew it. Some of them were indeed rough looking guys. One bouncer actually told me he was a mixed martial arts fighter. So basically, if you're not a big psychopath who isn't afraid of getting a beer bottle to the face (think Mickey Rourke in the movie Sin City. Or Mickey Rourke in any other movie), and you're not connected to organized crime, and you don't know anyone in the business, it seems that there's no way to really break into it.

About insurance, I had talked with the owner some at what was our county's number 1 dive, George's Rockin' Robin. George told me that because they have alcohol, they have to pay a higher rent rate than any of the other tenants, and the land lord says it is because of higher insurance.

And on paper, George's was not even really a strip club. The dancers were off of the records.

I suspect that if a club goes to the membership model, recording people's id's, that maybe the insurance can lighten up some, as there is probably a higher safety level.

We se Shadow's posts about 2amer's, and we read of stuff likely escalated by meat head bouncers. The club and its booze are often the last resort of the desperate.

Well the membership club model may improve this. It is after all the model pioneered by Swinger's Clubs. Ever heard of violence in a Swinger's Club?

Swinger's Clubs have Care Bears on duty to ensure that the sex is consensual and that there is safety. They don't have Thug Bouncers.

SJG

@BurlingtonHF - I think there can be lots of hands wanting a piece of the pot. Folks know that they get cases of beer for a very low price - and then turn and sell that beer for $6-8 a bottle. The water - in your example carries an even higher margin.

A strip club is one of those businesses ripe to front for illegal activity due to the cash basis - which is perfect for money laundering.

Bouncing can be a rough job. Clubs in sketchy areas may have lots of folks to keep in line. The clubs that are considered classy - still need bouncers who have a physical presence that discourages folks from acting up. You’ve got hot girls, booze and horny dudes - which is a perfect atmosphere for guys to act stupid.