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shadowcatAtlanta suburb

I was talking to a dancer at Follies yesterday. She told me that she had been hired at Cheetah and that the cost for a City of Atlanta license is now $380 for the first year. The City of Chamblee where Follies is located is $100. Club Wax in Atlanta does not require a license because it is a bikini club.

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Papi_Chulo

Not sure but I think in some areas a license is only good for a specific club (vs specific city), which is even worse

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Papi_Chulo

AFAIK no South FL clubs require dancer licences - which is a good-thing IMO

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shadowcat

Damn Papi - If my memory serves me correctly, Atlanta is such a city.

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twentyfive

No Papi in Palm Beach County the girls are required to obtain an Entertainers License and renew it every year, i believe the cost is $75.00 annually. They are not allowed to work in the clubs here without obtaining it.

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georgmicrodong

Do other "entertainers", such as actors, street performers, TV personalities, etc require such a license?

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clubdude

Sadly in Detroit dancers need a "card". I think it's around $200 and has to renewed yearly, if memory serves me correct. I guess that's why some of them go to the "free" suburbs.

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Papi_Chulo

@ 25:

Do you know if Miami-Dade and Broward require licenses?

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twentyfive

To GMD I don't know and I checked after I posted it is an adult entertainers license. I do know that in other places in Florida like Key West the folks that perform on the pier at sunset are required to have a permit and in other locations as well.

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twentyfive

Papi I'm not sure check county websites for correct info.

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jester214

Just a really selective sin tax.

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san_jose_guy

Stripper licensing is NFG. No legitimate reason for it. Have it here in Santa Clara County, and since these are softer core clubs, attracting softer core girls, it is just a deterrent.

Remember the Cabaret Cards, and Thelonious Monk loosing his over a marijuana bust. Similar situation. No legitimate reason to require the card.

If challenged, these licensing requirements could be found as unconstitutional. Don't think San Francisco has any such licensing.

It is not just a sin tax, it is to scare would be dancers off.

SJG

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GACA

Actors in LA have to have a SAG or AFTRA card and are required to have an agent.

Not sure about porn though.

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san_jose_guy

I'm sure you understand the degree of problems with licensing strippers, porno performers, or massage girls.

SJG

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shailynn

Stupid, the only ounce of reasoning I can see is that the 'city' thinks it won't get any revenue from the dancers since they deal mostly in cash and likely skip on taxes, so essentially the city is getting a portion of that missed revenue up front.

I'm sure their excuse would be the high fee keeps up with the administration costs of such licenses.

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vincemichaels

It's a way of regulating dancers in Detroit, shailynn. The authorities check for criminal pasts.

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shailynn

Vince, I understand what you're saying and can see there being some costs and time to run a criminal background check to justify say even a $100 annual fee but man $380 is excessive.

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shadowcat

I just looked it up for Atlanta:

City of Atlanta

Atlanta Police Department

226 Peachtree St

Atlanta, Georgia 30303

404.546.6873 - THIS NUMBER TAKES YOU TO PUBLIC RELATIONS WHICH WILL GIVE YOU THE PROPER NUMBER

Permits are $350.00 and it is a two part process, you have to take a money order for $ 50.00 first for them to do a background check, on you and then if you pass that then you can go back the following day and you have to give them another money order for $300.00, It is not a one day process so don't think that if you go up there you will get it within that same day, It takes two days.

YOU CANNOT GET A PERMIT IF:

  1. You have more than 2 misdemeanors within 5 years

  2. You have a Felony within 7 years, also

  3. You have any drug charges, pending or past automatic No, and same with any

  4. You have any Prostitution charges past or pending it is an automatic NO.

You must buy 1 permit PER CLUB.

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Papi_Chulo

I really don't see the need for a "criminal background" check, it's not as if custies are getting stabbed by dancers in placea that don't require a license & thus no background check - plus most dancers' law issues have to to w/ drug possession, DUIs, and shit like that

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jackslash

I hear that to get a dancer license in Detroit you have to have pending prostitution charges.

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Jascoi

in tijuana the girls must have a health card and check every month. and idk the cost.

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mrrock

I'm pretty sure Phoenix is only 50 and has to be renewed annually.

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JamesSD

251 dollars in SD. 192 to renew.

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impala

I know here in PA a few years ago there was a bill that they tried to get through the state legislature to require all those working in any place where public nudity took place to have to get licensed, which would included passing a criminal background check and mandatory monthly STD testing. If a club was found to have dancers there without the license, the club would be in violation with penalties included (but not limited to) fines, loss if liquor license, and closures. If I remember right the license fee alone was like $500 a year. P It didn't get out of committee, and I think if I remember right one of the sticking points was that they wanted massage parlors (I'm sorry, spas) included, and the legit places said they could afford it.

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san_jose_guy

"Stupid, the only ounce of reasoning I can see is that the 'city' thinks it won't get any revenue from the dancers since they deal mostly in cash and likely skip on taxes, so essentially the city is getting a portion of that missed revenue up front.

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No, it is actually far worse. It is not just a way of making money for cities. It is a way of harassing and intimidating dancers, and it is a way of choking down on a kind of 1st Amendment protected expression, just because some people don't like it.

Strip clubs only exist because of decade after decade of great lawyers like Melvin Belli and the folks who represented Jim and Artie Mitchell, going into court and getting such unconstitutional laws overturned.

Under Chief Justice Rose Bird, the California Supreme Court stuck down a whole bunch of Victorian Era "Red Light Abatement Laws", which allowed local authorities to close a business without anything like a jury trial or a conviction.

www.amazon.com

But each decade new politicians write new laws to try and do the same things, arrest people, close businesses, and make it impossible for businesses to operate, without ever getting any convictions. The entire "Adult Entertainment" classification works this way, authorizing nothing which is not already perfectly legal, but imposing lots of new restrictions.

And I cite here the recent activities in Greensboro South Carolina, about how the issue is closing businesses without the need for a jury trial.

Thelonious Monk

en.wikipedia.org

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From Prohibition until 1967, a permit called the New York City Cabaret Identification Card was required of all workers, including performers, in New York City nightclubs. Their administration was fraught with politics, and some artists' cards were revoked on specious grounds. For many performers, the revocation of their cabaret card resulted in the loss of their livelihood. Those of Chet Baker, Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk,[1] Jackie McLean,[2] Elmo Hope, Billy Higgins[3] and Billie Holiday[4] were suspended because of drug charges, and that of Lenny Bruce for his reputed obscenity.

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Now, about TJ, that is an entirely different situation. Those are health exam records. That tradition goes back a long way too. As I know, used to be little pink booklets, where their record of exam stamps would go. Today, a plastic card with a magnetic strip.

Anyone who has seen this first hand and can confirm it?

But these are not licenses for dancing in a strip club, these are licenses for practicing prostitution. Not at all like the US licensing of strip club dancers.

I would say that there is a public interest in these health exams.

:)

Very difficult to have such required health exams in the US, if sex acts are considered prostitution and outlawed.

www.amazon.com

SJG

Thelonious Monk - Live In Paris 1964

www.youtube.com

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shadowcat

Hey SGJ - there isn't a Greensboro in South Carolina.

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