Larry, this is like the 3rd thread where you've asked about converting a stripper into a legit girlfriend.
It happens, but it's rare. Very rare.
No matter how much money you have, how cool you are, how handsome you are, when you step foot into a strip club most strippers still view you as a PL. Even though their current boyfriend probably has no job, and lives in his moms' basement, since you're the one that stepped into the club, you're the PL.
In over a decade of clubbing I flipped a grand total of 1. After the stripper turned girlfriend drama and emotions involved, I'd prefer never to go through that again. Here on out I would much prefer to keep the relationships strictly P4P.
@Shailynn- it's not for me, I'm not interested in a stripper girlfriend. The key difference in this thread is I'm talking about the dancer's regular. In other words the regular has spent a lot of money on the dancer ITC. I would think it's very rare because at this point the dancer most likely sees the regular as a ATM that spits out a lot of money, and the dancer wants to keep the money spitting out. As opposed to a customer that maybe the dancer is just meeting for the first time, or something. I was just curious.
My #2 texted me tonight after 5 weeks of silence & non responses to my texts. She was my first fave for OTC sex about 7 years ago. For all intents & purposes she quit dancing 4 years ago, but we've stayed in touch. She's got one former customer who sends her money weekly and they hang out but very little if any sex.
Most of the time when she asks me for money I'll tell her I'm broke. Occasionally I'll see her for a little road head and once or twice a year for OTC at a hotel. She calls us fuckbuddies. She's broke so I told her I could help her out with $100. She was thrilled & invited me to come skinny dipping in her grandfathers pool later in the week.
Is she a GF? No. Is she a true fuckbuddy? Not really. But she's been a constant source of enjoyment off & on for years with very little outlay of cash. We don't always have to label a relationship. Sometimes just go with the flow.
I've seen and heard of strippers dating PLs so it happens but its always been with the new young dancers that dont know any better. I would never do it, OTC, ITC, stripper parties, yes to all those but to date a stripper thats just crazy.
From the moment you stepped foot in the strip club's door, the stripper knew something was wrong with you and at the same time saw you as a walking ATM. Once you start spending money on her, especially P4P, her suspicions are confirmed and you are a customer. I'd be concerned about any dancer's alterior motives or mental state who wants to move a customer out of the customer zone.
My ATF is smart and good about keeping things in perspective, and refers to me as a friend who happens to be a customer. I'm content with not transitioning and keeping the business relationship intact so I avoid being subjected to any alterior motives and can walk away if she turns out to be too unstable for my liking.
I've seen some relationships transition. Most fail for some combination of the following . The dancer sees the guy as a loser that needed to pay a woman for attention. She continues to equate him providing her with money as proof of his commitment . Someone willing to pay her more than he does must love her more and is more deserving of her love and affection.
I've seen it once. Dude was younger, good looking and wealthy. They ended up getting married. Being put in the P4P zone is just like being put in the friend zone by a honey. Once that switch is flipped it is almost impossible to change and, IMO, not worth the effort.
This thread got me thinking about sclvr5005's comment. Do transgender people have thoughts about their transgressions?
Do they fill themselves up with thoughts of guilt and inadequacies? I don't know much about the alternative life. I'm just here (TUSCL) so I stop eating for an hour. Do transitioning transgenders have a fear of homophobia, and if so who are they afraid of?
My wife Jeannie has an employee that is transitioning, and I said "To a man or woman?" She said, "neither, it's menopause."
I'm so confused on these new words and what they mean. I think I'll go get another donut. Confusion makes me hungry.
There's a myth out there that dancers don't date customers. Every stripper I've gotten to know has admitted to dating a customer in the past. So while it doesn't happen all the time, it certainly happens.
After my divorce I briefly dated a 32 year old former favourite stripper. It did not go well. She was basically nuts and thought that I was her retirement plan. When it turned out that I wasn't as rich as she hoped and not at all interested in eventually marrying her, she went bat shit crazy and at one point called my daughter to tell her how awful I am.
I agree with Larry's last comment. While it is rare, I think it does happen from time to time. Even though they are strippers, they are still people with personalities, emotions, etc.
If a stripper is single and she genuinely connects with a customer, who is relatively close to her age, and she is attracted to him, she may give it a chance.
Sure, a lot of them would rather keep the regular income, but some make enough money that finding a quality boyfriend outweighs losing the income from one customer.
Also, if they are single and don't have a giant circle of friends or a big social life, they may not meet many guys outside the club.
I think there is a difference between a stripper dating a customer vs dating a regular. I can see a stripper dating a customer being a bit more probable than a regular. A regular is someone who represents a steady stream of $$$ to a stripper. A customer might be a guy who comes in for a bachelor party -
Girl's learn that a paying regular is very valuable, much more valuable than a BF.
And then if he were to become a BF, and if that then failed, he would never go back to being a regular.
And all BF/GF relationships are socially challenged today.
But how to get the girl to transition? My own view is that someone who keeps regularly seeing a girl in a strip club is a pathetic looser. The more times he sees her, the more of a PL he is.
A normal guy would not do that. He would quickly indicate that he wanted to see her outside, and implicitly this would mean off the clock. He would not by shy about this.
So if it is near his home, he gets her into his own bed.
If it is out of town, he takes her to his motel. And then he lets her know when he will be back. And if out of town he might give her money, not hooker fees, but "taking care of her", as he is not able to always be around, but he still wants to know that she is okay and to see her again.
Once you bed her off site and not direct P4P, she is your GF.
So long as you have never treated her like a prostitute, and hence are not trying to save her, my observation is that most not otherwise attached are quite available and age differences are fine.
Most guys fail because deeply ingrained in them is this view which forces women to be divided into two categories.
After reading SJG's post I had to chuckle at my shortcomings in comprehension from the OP. Thanks for clarifying SJG!
I'm new here and adjusting to what actually happens in the real world compared to the strip club life, and I can tell you it is quite overwhelming. My kids are just barely getting old enough where I can get away from the family without making sure the nanny can handle it all. My explorations into the underbelly of the sex world is exciting, so it appears this San Jose area type scene could be the place for learning the game of sex workers. Bon voyage Indiana and Manhattan, here I come!
"If a stripper is single and she genuinely connects with a customer, who is relatively close to her age, and she is attracted to him, she may give it a chance."
I've come close to being a dancer's bf a few times but thought I avoided the label. I'm wondering if some called me that and that's why they got so pissed off at times. I think a dancer must feel connected to you in some way to get so pissed off at times. Dancers are very drama filled at times. Some cry, some are drama queens, some just go bat shit crazy. It wouldn't surprise me if some dancers thought of me as a bf when I just thought of her as a friend with benefits.
I don't know that it is so rare. I have dated 2 dancers steady over the years. Another dancer I know is now engaged to be married to a bouncer at a club in Dayton Ohio. It happens maybe more often than you think. Do you think these dancers meet their boyfriends in church ?
It happens more often than you think. The key is to not let yourself get hooked n have ones waiting in the wings n transition in n out in my case usually 4-6 months. Some yes see it for true FB which is fine be me others and usually younger ones not the around the block 15 times one have visions of bigger things. IDK but I have blast doing regular date stuff with these girls who will yes dress a bit more sexy that way and dates become an enticing hot prelude for what's to come later in the evening. I do it all the time and traveling for business always I'll even bring em along for couple days and makes it all the more fun. Just don't get hooked cause they all have drama n issues and if you do it will become yours. Made that mistake once but never again. I stay in my lane and it's fun and seems to get easier these days.
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It happens, but it's rare. Very rare.
No matter how much money you have, how cool you are, how handsome you are, when you step foot into a strip club most strippers still view you as a PL. Even though their current boyfriend probably has no job, and lives in his moms' basement, since you're the one that stepped into the club, you're the PL.
In over a decade of clubbing I flipped a grand total of 1. After the stripper turned girlfriend drama and emotions involved, I'd prefer never to go through that again. Here on out I would much prefer to keep the relationships strictly P4P.
Lmao. What an idiotic thing to post. Afraid of a word. Overcompensating much?
I doubt any would stop to spit on me if I was on fire.
Well, if I was clutching a single, maybe.
Most of the time when she asks me for money I'll tell her I'm broke. Occasionally I'll see her for a little road head and once or twice a year for OTC at a hotel. She calls us fuckbuddies. She's broke so I told her I could help her out with $100. She was thrilled & invited me to come skinny dipping in her grandfathers pool later in the week.
Is she a GF? No. Is she a true fuckbuddy? Not really. But she's been a constant source of enjoyment off & on for years with very little outlay of cash. We don't always have to label a relationship. Sometimes just go with the flow.
Next week he's going to skinny dip in an ex-strippers grandfathers pool, and Gawker himself is probably older than the strippers grandfather.
My ATF is smart and good about keeping things in perspective, and refers to me as a friend who happens to be a customer. I'm content with not transitioning and keeping the business relationship intact so I avoid being subjected to any alterior motives and can walk away if she turns out to be too unstable for my liking.
She can continue to drain cash from a PL - without any emotional attachment. Why would she want to?
I could be far too pessimistic - but I don't see it happening (outside of rare exceptions - very rare).
Do they fill themselves up with thoughts of guilt and inadequacies? I don't know much about the alternative life. I'm just here (TUSCL) so I stop eating for an hour. Do transitioning transgenders have a fear of homophobia, and if so who are they afraid of?
My wife Jeannie has an employee that is transitioning, and I said "To a man or woman?" She said, "neither, it's menopause."
I'm so confused on these new words and what they mean. I think I'll go get another donut. Confusion makes me hungry.
If a stripper is single and she genuinely connects with a customer, who is relatively close to her age, and she is attracted to him, she may give it a chance.
Sure, a lot of them would rather keep the regular income, but some make enough money that finding a quality boyfriend outweighs losing the income from one customer.
Also, if they are single and don't have a giant circle of friends or a big social life, they may not meet many guys outside the club.
Again, it's rare, but it's not impossible.
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Girl's learn that a paying regular is very valuable, much more valuable than a BF.
And then if he were to become a BF, and if that then failed, he would never go back to being a regular.
And all BF/GF relationships are socially challenged today.
But how to get the girl to transition? My own view is that someone who keeps regularly seeing a girl in a strip club is a pathetic looser. The more times he sees her, the more of a PL he is.
A normal guy would not do that. He would quickly indicate that he wanted to see her outside, and implicitly this would mean off the clock. He would not by shy about this.
So if it is near his home, he gets her into his own bed.
If it is out of town, he takes her to his motel. And then he lets her know when he will be back. And if out of town he might give her money, not hooker fees, but "taking care of her", as he is not able to always be around, but he still wants to know that she is okay and to see her again.
Once you bed her off site and not direct P4P, she is your GF.
So long as you have never treated her like a prostitute, and hence are not trying to save her, my observation is that most not otherwise attached are quite available and age differences are fine.
Most guys fail because deeply ingrained in them is this view which forces women to be divided into two categories.
SJG
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I'm new here and adjusting to what actually happens in the real world compared to the strip club life, and I can tell you it is quite overwhelming. My kids are just barely getting old enough where I can get away from the family without making sure the nanny can handle it all. My explorations into the underbelly of the sex world is exciting, so it appears this San Jose area type scene could be the place for learning the game of sex workers. Bon voyage Indiana and Manhattan, here I come!
But what I was writing about was this underground circuit which sometimes operates in Mexican bars.
Lots of places, including in or around Indiana and Manhattan, are better.
Welcome to TUSCL
:)
SJG
I agree with this 100%.
Lol.