How is this OTC deal?
martinb244
Florida
A dancer agreed meet off site for $150/30min. She will not have sex, but she'll give me the same high mileage she does in this club.
In the club, I pay about 150 for 30 min worth of regular dances. She does stick shift.
I would give her an extra $25 for gas.
What do you think?
In the club, I pay about 150 for 30 min worth of regular dances. She does stick shift.
I would give her an extra $25 for gas.
What do you think?
35 comments
This only seems like a good deal for her.
This is all assuming a high quality girl that would make this worthwhile....
$150 isn't that much money to me that 150+25+hotel isn't a great loss, if she's a quality woman. Even if all I'm getting a nude high mileage dances (which I can't get here without traveling a fair distance).
She always gives nude dances.
She gets so wet, I can smell her snatch on my clothes after.
She is okay with my penis being under my shirt and riding me that way ITC. It was my idea, but she was down with it.
My penis did pop out from under my shirt, she kept going. She said, "I can feel your cock on my pussy," and kept going.
She is 23 years old.
She says she is living with her sister and her husband, but she will have to find another place by the end of this month.
She says she needs to make $1200 by the end of this month and the club she works in isn't doing good business.
She only pays house fees and tip outs. Dancers set their own prices, but don't split dance money.
I HATE this club she works in. I don't want to go in.
I would only do this if the girl was DS level perfect and I wanted to run my system to convince her to fuck. Absent a girl who is your perfect fantasy woman, there's no reason to do this. The clubs are full of women willing to fuck you, so why settle for something much less?
A couple of things to work on.... after the 30 mins ask if she would like a drink or go get a bite to eat... on you of course. Then you can build a rapport with her. Make her feel at ease with you and more comfortable. This could help with your future and maybe getting OTC.
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Like others stated bring some extra cash along. Be descrete about it as well. And see if she is willing to push it further with out being aggressive about it. Remember she could be scared and nervous at the same time.
But becareful like what JS69 stated... she could just milk you out of money as well.
She'll probably be more relaxed not being in her work environment, so the dances will probably be even better, and possibly lead to sex.
If she did start to lead you on by promising more, at that point, you could ask her to be clear about what exactly "more" means, so you don't get robbed.
Good luck and have fun! Let us know how it goes.
This is a great deal for her. She gets the full 150 - no cut to the club. You pay for the hotel room and everything else. She doesn't need to worry about club rules or management.
If she's desperate to earn $1200 - then $150 is basically 12% of what she needs. Push her a bit - with some additional cash - and see if she will go FS. One eighth of 1200 means she has a long way to go - but one quarter is much closer to her goal...
If so, she may be afraid to have sex with him ITC or give him a BJ, because she's worried about being caught by security and getting fired. Since she feels comfortable around him, I don't think she's too worried about her safety OTC. In fact, I think she'll be more comfortable, without the fear of being caught doing extras ITC and losing her job. So, I think she's more likely to give him a BJ or have sex with him OTC.
I could be wrong, but just my 2 cents.
I also don't love the fact she set a hard time limit. I'd basically be looking for her to show flexibility there without asking for more cash.
^Agreed.
crsm27 --> "I would test the waters if I were you. ... after the 30 mins ask if she would like a drink or go get a bite to eat... on you of course. Then you can build a rapport with her." --> end quote crsm27
^crsm27 above has a partial, possible solution. Offering dinner out extends the OTC session and takes her "off the clock."
This mirrors what I do ITC. I have her dance about half the time we're together. She'll do 10-24 minutes or so of dances, do a stage set, come back to the front room with me (tipped for time) to do GFE, maybe take a smoke/potty break, then repeat the cycle.
I would break up the OTC time as well. Especially if she she's that I more cash. I wouldn't do the next set of dances right away, either. Maybe dinner, coffee, hell - even order room service. Then decide what to do next. More Dances? Something more? (If so, she needs to be explicit! No teasing while OTC. No more women trying to be coy.) Or maybe set a future date for more OTC fun.
Report back if u went thru w/ it.
I would just try to back up and approach her in a civilian manner, and let outside contact develop from that.
Paying for sex shouldn't have to be the norm, it should be only for specific types of situations, like where that is what the girl is accustomed to, and even then only as a way to get to know her as a prelude to some at least quasi civilian relationship.
SJG
JS69 is actually agreeing, but qualifying, that for him, it would need to be a DS level girl. That's where he is now in his system...not where he started.
A couple of the guys on the board have seen a couple of pictures of the girl that I took this angle with, and I don't think any of them would argue that success at that level would have been worth the "risk". What do you have to lose...not getting more than an ITC level dance and she has already had your bare dick on her bare pussy?!?! I say go for it, make her feel comfortable and let he know that she can make the choices that are right for her...but have the extra cash to reward the behavior you wish to reinforce.
Or maybe the hotel TV has some sirius satellite radio stations or something.