Never done OTC, and I just thought... does it typically involve an hourly rate like with escorts? I imagine it's more spontaneous and undefined, but as I've never done it...
Typically it is a fixed amount for everything. For me this means $X for dinner and sex. I won't accept time limits but if she's not a DS the sex will only take an hour or two. I think these are pretty standard terms.
With a DS its the same but I pay more and they stay longer, sometimes the night.
A girl who wants $ per hour is probably an escort who strips. I usually refuse per hour charges. These are a clear minority in clubs.
In GENERAL, one of the great things about OTC is that it ISN'T structured, like with escorts... depending on how good of a negotiator you are, how well the connection and trust are between you and the stripper, etc. For myself, I always negotiate the price of JUST the sex act up front, and then do the assumptive close that all other activities -- lunch, drinking, strip clubbing, etc. -- are just part of the deal. My typical OTCs last about 2-4 hours, but my longest OTC is 10 hours (!!!!) of marathon drinking and sex, and I've had a few OTCs that go beyond that and she ends up staying the night. An escort would have an hourly rate, or an overnight rate that would cost me a fortune. Meanwhile, I have NEVER paid over $300 for an OTC, at least not to the stripper -- drinks, dinner, strip clubbing, hotel room, etc., can add up to another $200-$400
To add on to what JS said -- we were composing our posts at the same time -- I find the more high-volume and professionalized (if that's a word) the stripper is, the more likely she'll try an escort model of strict $/hour. Or, as JS said, if she's an escort who strips, she'll have a business model that's akin to an escort's. I avoid these girls like the plague, I'm looking for an experience with a stripper (the lower her OTC volume the better, and I go to no-extras clubs, so she's not doing extras either), and it's not just the business model, but stripper-style attitude that I"m going for
It's going to vary greatly depending on the girl and even the club.
I would not assume that hourly rates automatically equate to an escort that strips (although it's a good indicator).
There was a time when I was working on a dancer for OTC. She was pretty new to the job and working in a low-mileage club, *but* she needed a bolus of cash quickly. So, she was open to the idea, but kept wavering on the logistics: price, duration, place, etc. She was out of her element. Finally, she asked if she could think about it and message me. Reluctantly, I agreed. She wasn't going to bite that night.
The next day she messaged me: "$300 for 1 hour. $500 for 2 hours. Add $100 to either if you want GFE or PSE."
I messaged back that I was amazed that she had gone from awkward-but-willing OTC newbie to having a full rate card with optional services. She replied with a single word:
My limited experience is that I have reached an agreement on a mix of 'per hour' and 'per session'. Whatever I have agreed though it usually runs well over the usual time.
So i did OTC with a few of your mothers this past month and they all need to up their rates. I realize they are all in the 65-90 year range, but come on…its 2016 y'all.
I stopped using escorts from Backpage because they would charge me an hourly rate and cheat me on the time.
Clock watching kills the vibe for me. Usually a monetary amount is agreed upon with the girls I have done OTC with.
I am with the majority here in that I'm interested in the whole experience and not the hourly rate variety. I have done overnights with a couple of strippers and others have been until one of us had to go home. The hottest OTC stripper I've seen, she kept having things she "needed" to do so the time kept getting shorter and shorter and began to feel more like an escort situation (no reduction in $ of course). That relationship ended very shortly thereafter.
Remember - hourly rates generally work against you. Escorts who strip can be flaky - and they aren't often on time - and therefore their estimates of an hour can vary considerably!
If you negotiate with a stripper - for OTC - make sure she's done it before - and she's giving you the "all in" price. It's simpler that way - as it sets a firm price (that she might not fully remember) but it's one you should remember -
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With a DS its the same but I pay more and they stay longer, sometimes the night.
A girl who wants $ per hour is probably an escort who strips. I usually refuse per hour charges. These are a clear minority in clubs.
I would not assume that hourly rates automatically equate to an escort that strips (although it's a good indicator).
There was a time when I was working on a dancer for OTC. She was pretty new to the job and working in a low-mileage club, *but* she needed a bolus of cash quickly. So, she was open to the idea, but kept wavering on the logistics: price, duration, place, etc. She was out of her element. Finally, she asked if she could think about it and message me. Reluctantly, I agreed. She wasn't going to bite that night.
The next day she messaged me: "$300 for 1 hour. $500 for 2 hours. Add $100 to either if you want GFE or PSE."
I messaged back that I was amazed that she had gone from awkward-but-willing OTC newbie to having a full rate card with optional services. She replied with a single word:
"Google".
Clock watching kills the vibe for me. Usually a monetary amount is agreed upon with the girls I have done OTC with.
If you negotiate with a stripper - for OTC - make sure she's done it before - and she's giving you the "all in" price. It's simpler that way - as it sets a firm price (that she might not fully remember) but it's one you should remember -