YES, starting from before I was married, and then continuing after I was in the death trap of marriage as a way of staying sane.
I had first read in an issue of Hustler, written before there were FS strip clubs, that considering escorts and street, AMPs were probably the best value for the money.
My first HJ was administered by a beautiful young Vietnamese fashion plate, looking of course to get married, who did not even suggest that I pay her extra money.
But soon I figured out that if you want to fuck an AMP girl, you just move on her as a civilian. Don't ask or discuss, as that is treating her like a prostitute. No reason to do this. Just make it happen. Treat her as though you'd just met her at a party.
Often she will just go with it. She'll still get paid the customary amount. But treating her as a civilian means that more often than not it will be mind blowing for both parties, more like a Girl Friend Audition or a First Civilian Date.
The minimum looks standard, and the dolling up standard, in AMPs is much less than in strip clubs. It depends on the particular shop, and also how competitive that metro is, and how open they are about offering FS. 90% do do FS, but only in some metros are they totally open about it. So it comes down to how tough LE is being on them.
So you just have to window shop until you find a girl you actually like. This can be a very personal matter. Flirt with them as you can in the lobby, as this will improve the session and make you feel better about it.
But strip clubs still beat out AMPs for looks, and dolling up. Best is if you can soften girls up with not only verbal flirting, but with a front room makeout session. So for this reason, strip clubs are still the superior venue.
She was a long term Coffee Girl. Lots of the pics you can find online for the Coffee Shops show girls I am very familiar with.
After the Fall of Saigon in 1975, the first to come here were usually professionals, like doctors or lawyers, who had worked with the US. They transitioned easier as they had more money.
But the second group had it the hardest, being refugees who faced great horrors in escaping and arriving here with nothing. It was often some of these that I was encountering in AMPs.
Now Vietnam allows orderly emigration, and so those who come are young and going to school. They are becoming just like most other immigrant groups.
Most of the current crop of coffee girls were either born here, or came in when they were less than say 10yo. They work in Coffee Shops because they don't want to do anything like work in an AMP. They are young, silly, vain, competitive about looks, conformist, and materialistic.
^^^^^^^^ This kind of talk is simply racial prejudice.
Most AMP girls reside in the US and legally.
When people talk about human trafficking, are they talking about all the stock brokers who travel to Europe to work, and then travel back to East India to take time off? Are they trafficked?
No, it is only about 3rd world women doing sex work.
The laws about trafficking are so vague that it can mean whatever you want it to mean. Like say you drove your girl friend to go to do her shift in an ultra high mileage strip club? That could be charged as human trafficking.
There need be no force, fraud, coercion, or juveniles involved to run afoul of the law.
In AAMPs many of the girls are here on 3 or 6 months visas. They have been coached to talk their way through Customs screeners, as young women are really grilled.
After that, if they have any problems with the boss, they just pick up their cell phone and dial and right away a car will pick them up and they will start doing service at a new AAMP within 30 minutes.
The bosses are always getting dumped by girls, and for no good reason, just small tiffs.
The girls want to make money, and that is all it is.
The only trafficking is that at least once per week they need to be driven to the bank.
Most of the AAMP girls set a monthly target of $15k. Say their cut of a session is $100 and they do 6 MSOG-GFE sessions per day, for 25 days out of a month, then they get it.
6 sessions per day really cuts the stuffing's right out of them. It is hard work. And I've seen them do as many as 9 on occasion.
The bosses have to be constant salesmen, as the girls want the maximum money, as so the bosses have to keep convincing them to not run off to other shops. Other shops sponsor clients to come and session and butter them up to steal them.
In AMPs the girls are just like the ones you might meet at the cash register at an Asian super market. They just don't know our culture or language that well and have not been to college, and so their options for high wage income are limited.
This trafficking concern surfaced after Moral Uplifter Feminism finally had to give up on crusading against porn, because the internet made it common place. So for a decade not they have instead focused on trafficking.
IME, stop putting such stuff out until you have become friendly with some AMP girls, sessioning and sex friendly, having them make your breakfast in the morning friendly, or just casually friendly. Then you will know, and not be just spewing out prejudice.
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I had first read in an issue of Hustler, written before there were FS strip clubs, that considering escorts and street, AMPs were probably the best value for the money.
My first HJ was administered by a beautiful young Vietnamese fashion plate, looking of course to get married, who did not even suggest that I pay her extra money.
But soon I figured out that if you want to fuck an AMP girl, you just move on her as a civilian. Don't ask or discuss, as that is treating her like a prostitute. No reason to do this. Just make it happen. Treat her as though you'd just met her at a party.
Often she will just go with it. She'll still get paid the customary amount. But treating her as a civilian means that more often than not it will be mind blowing for both parties, more like a Girl Friend Audition or a First Civilian Date.
Find your pleasure here:
http://www.rubmaps.com/
SJG
So you just have to window shop until you find a girl you actually like. This can be a very personal matter. Flirt with them as you can in the lobby, as this will improve the session and make you feel better about it.
But strip clubs still beat out AMPs for looks, and dolling up. Best is if you can soften girls up with not only verbal flirting, but with a front room makeout session. So for this reason, strip clubs are still the superior venue.
SJG
This girl is now a dental hygienist. But no, she never worked in an AMP, only in Viet Coffee.
SJG
did you take that photo yourself? if so, that's really creepy dude. Like JS69 creepy
After the Fall of Saigon in 1975, the first to come here were usually professionals, like doctors or lawyers, who had worked with the US. They transitioned easier as they had more money.
But the second group had it the hardest, being refugees who faced great horrors in escaping and arriving here with nothing. It was often some of these that I was encountering in AMPs.
Now Vietnam allows orderly emigration, and so those who come are young and going to school. They are becoming just like most other immigrant groups.
Most of the current crop of coffee girls were either born here, or came in when they were less than say 10yo. They work in Coffee Shops because they don't want to do anything like work in an AMP. They are young, silly, vain, competitive about looks, conformist, and materialistic.
Former San Jose City Council Member and Mayoral Candidate Madison Nguyen.
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/07.02.0…
She took the name of Madison as her American name in honor of the fourth President and the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
SJG
Most AMP girls reside in the US and legally.
When people talk about human trafficking, are they talking about all the stock brokers who travel to Europe to work, and then travel back to East India to take time off? Are they trafficked?
No, it is only about 3rd world women doing sex work.
The laws about trafficking are so vague that it can mean whatever you want it to mean. Like say you drove your girl friend to go to do her shift in an ultra high mileage strip club? That could be charged as human trafficking.
There need be no force, fraud, coercion, or juveniles involved to run afoul of the law.
In AAMPs many of the girls are here on 3 or 6 months visas. They have been coached to talk their way through Customs screeners, as young women are really grilled.
After that, if they have any problems with the boss, they just pick up their cell phone and dial and right away a car will pick them up and they will start doing service at a new AAMP within 30 minutes.
The bosses are always getting dumped by girls, and for no good reason, just small tiffs.
The girls want to make money, and that is all it is.
The only trafficking is that at least once per week they need to be driven to the bank.
Most of the AAMP girls set a monthly target of $15k. Say their cut of a session is $100 and they do 6 MSOG-GFE sessions per day, for 25 days out of a month, then they get it.
6 sessions per day really cuts the stuffing's right out of them. It is hard work. And I've seen them do as many as 9 on occasion.
The bosses have to be constant salesmen, as the girls want the maximum money, as so the bosses have to keep convincing them to not run off to other shops. Other shops sponsor clients to come and session and butter them up to steal them.
In AMPs the girls are just like the ones you might meet at the cash register at an Asian super market. They just don't know our culture or language that well and have not been to college, and so their options for high wage income are limited.
This trafficking concern surfaced after Moral Uplifter Feminism finally had to give up on crusading against porn, because the internet made it common place. So for a decade not they have instead focused on trafficking.
IME, stop putting such stuff out until you have become friendly with some AMP girls, sessioning and sex friendly, having them make your breakfast in the morning friendly, or just casually friendly. Then you will know, and not be just spewing out prejudice.
SJG
SJG