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Yep just come out and ask. I usually say something like "Do you like to party OTC? I think we could have some fun" or "Do you do private shows outside of the club?" The second one works well cause if they say yes then they will certainly do more than "just dance". Good luck!

Have you gone further than dances itc? If so she's definitely down for otc with a regular. Otherwise, just ask. Be honest, tell her what you expect and what you'll pay. Don't worry about her shooting you down, you'll find someone else, which would be a good thing for you. The more you do this the better you get at detaching yourself emotionally. It takes us custies a few rounds to realize it's better to just enjoy the ride then to get attached.

Pull out your dick during the lap dance is a nice way to send the right message.

its always going to be infrequent and short. the texting that is. i too like to get one girl. not so pathetic. you could just come right out and ask i suppose

As was suggested, saying “Do you do private shows outside of the club?" is probably a pretty safe way to go about it IMO.

I would imagine she would ask as to what you exactly have in mind.

You could say something along the lines “I find you very attractive and I would like to be intimate with you”. May be kind of lame to put it this way, but at least it’s kind of safe and she may not be taken aback that much if she is not into the OTC thing.

But if you do set it up, as others will tell you, and you may have read via your “lurking” – make sure you are both on the same page about what is expected and for how much – just be tactful about the way you put it since you don’t seem to be sure about her - but put in never the less.

Also, the fact that she gave you her # is a descent sign, not a sure sign, but a descent one that she may perhaps partake in “side business”.

BTW – asking about OTC is not anything out of the realm of SCville. It may not seem natural at first that’s for sure, but it’s like anything else you do for the 1st time – it’s like riding a bike man :)

BTW – one thing you should definitely not do is let her know where you live or work – the less she knows about you the better.

Agree with papi on all

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Everyone gave good advice.

I like the honest up front approach. Say this (like a caveman) "Me want sex!" or (with a smile) "I'd like to have sex with you.". See how those work ;).

Bullwinkle, you're a smart man. A smart smart man.

Yeah OP – listen to Bullwinkle – his words are wise and sound like the words of experience.

For a newbie who hasn't posted a single review, your getting a shit-ton of good advice. Appreciate it and take it to heart.

Just ask.

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Sing her the lyrics to In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly.

Sing it EXACTLY the way Ingle did.

Is it worth it to keep weekly spending about $200 to wonder if you could or could not be getting more OTC? Answer that question and you'll know what the next step should be.

i am in dfw. the club is byob all nude. she lets me do pretty much whatever i want but will usually stop me in a playful way after awhile if i put my fingers in her. ive never gone to vip. i usually dont carry that kind of money on me, but really, it just seems kinda awkward and scary. i used to go to clubs a lot when i was younger before i was married but that was in my 20s when i was broke and really just being stupid and drunk with friends. i am in my 30s now and spending a few hundred a week isnt that big a deal but money is money, and yes, i would rather be otc.

so ok, i will just call it out next time i see her. i really do appreciate the advice, especially since i havent posted a review. i will post one soon, thanks again.

i think you're already dangerously attached. if she's the wrong type you will be taken for a ride (and not in a good way). right now you're just focused on doing her, the real question is what will you want after you've done otc? she's probably not the next mrs. wren8

Just went through similar experience. Finally took her to hotel and she was the worst lay ever. Made it easy to delete from cell and go to club at different time. Thinking of escorts. Cheaper in the long run w no emotional baggage. Have fun.