VIP or just multiple dances?
NoOtherAlternatives
Florida
Relatively new to the frequent SC visits... I have gone a small handful of times over the past years, but am thinking of making this a monthly venture. I was hoping to get some opinions from the vets on here about something.
I completely understand that this is a loaded question based on the girl, venue, reputation, etc. However, what is usually the better route to go: a VIP session or just get multiple dances from one or two dancers? I ask because last month, I agreed to do my first VIP session after getting 3/$50 dances in the semi-private lap dance booth of a club. Do my disappointment, the quality of dances decreased in the VIP room (I assume that since she talked me in there, she felt like she didn't have to work any more). I plan on returning to this same club in a couple weeks to try another dancer but didn't know if I should spring for VIP. It's $250/30min, and for that price I could also get 12 dances in the semi-private area...not sure what is better. The club has a semi reputation for extras, but I think the most I would have the balls to agree too would be a handy at this point. In your opinion, if I sprung for the $250 again, would the girl expect more for that relatively small extra (besides a $25 tip or so)?
Looking forward to your insights!
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If you just want the dances and fantasy and blah blah, then get the most for your money with multiple floor dances.
Some of the girls get lazy once you get them in the VIP just for dances, and the money's already there's. I had one girl who decided she just wanted to lay on me once we got back there.
If you're just getting floor dances: you can get as many dances as you want from as many girls as you want. If you don't like the dance you can cut it off and move on to the next one. With VIP you kinda get what you pay for.
"if I sprung for the $250 again, would the girl expect more for that relatively small extra (besides a $25 tip or so)?"
If you spend $250 again, YOU should expect more than a relatively small extra.
Girls want to cultivate customers that will take them to VIP or Champaign Rooms. Even though the house takes more money, the girl has a bulk cash payment in hand without trying to hussle it from different customers at $20 per dance. Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
You are correct that much more and varied mileage can be obtained by using seperate private dances. Use them to determine your potential VIP candidates.
I know in one of my local clubs, there are NO cameras in the private dance areas but their are camera in the VIP rooms. Guess where all the "extra action" takes place in this club?
I would think that it would be hard to discuss with the dancer what is going to go on in there before things actually happen. Obviously, the dancer isn't going to be a cop, but how does she know I am not one that is going to say "hey, are you going to finish me off in there?" and she says yes and then gets busted. Kind of like setting up an escort: you aren't supposed to say anything related to sex and/or money (I did that once and was scared shitless that I was going to get busted).
Try it out. See what happens. The worse she can say is "no".
Why do you think the club gets such a ridiculous cut?? They have to clean that nasty shit up every time.
There are supposedly no monitoring equipment in this club's VIP.
I think when I go back in a couple weeks, I'll try the same MO but with a different girl: test out at 3/50, see what she says about VIP and if it sounds good try it again. If the same thing happens, I'll learn my lesson (some times it takes getting beat upside the head twice for it to sink in!) and just stick to LDs for a while. The LD areas in this place are the most private I've ever seen (but I've only been to about 5 different places in my life time.
Thanks guys! I'll probably stop posting unnecessarily on this thread unless something important comes up but will continue to listen intently!
In most clubs, especially in those where extras are offered, these questions are as common as asking how much a beer is. It is part and parcel of the SC culture.
BTW – it is as much “how†you ask as “what†you ask. If one asks un-politely, you may get a bad response no matter what it is you are asking (e.g. asking for a drink).
The SC is a sex business – of course dancers are asked for sex *all* the time – but again, one needs to ask respectfully – asking “bitch do you fuck†may not go over so well – but asking “what is available in the VIP room†is nothing wrong w/ that.
If the next girl asks for VIP, I'll just tell her something along the lines of "I don't know...I did that last time I was here and was disappointed. I don't want to pay extra money just for you to dance for me in a private area." Maybe that would give an indication of what SHE thinks should happen back there. Either that or I'm too soft/scared and this game isn't for me HAHA.
Papi: I am always respectful. I would never be mean or insulting to a dancer...that's no way to treat someone that is kind enough to dangle their naked body in my face or lap. :-)
However, be VERY aware that about half of them (if not more) will tell you whatever you want to hear just to get you in the back. I would also be cautious about ever telling a stripper that you're in town on business or just passing through the area. In my experience, they're much more likely to try and rip you off any way they can because you aren't coming back and they feel confident that they aren't risking any loss by mistreating you.
In general, the dances are probably your best bet at least at first. Test out the merchandise and there's a good chance that the girls will tell you everything you want to know. Don't be afraid to negotiate about the VIP if you find a girl you think you might like to see again.
I was just trying to make the point that it is ok to ask as long as one asks in an appropriate manner .
And as others have said; VIP is expensive – so before one drops that kind of change, one should have worked out the details.
Believe me, if you don’t ask for what you want (even if you get turned down), then often times the dancer will give you/me as little as possible while trying to get the most $$$ possible from us (especially if one has already paid up front or agreed to pay a certain amount).
Dancers know better than you what goes on in the VIP – so the worst reply you may get from a dancer is “I don’t do that†– but believe me, they are probably asked very very often for more than LDs – they would not be shocked or offended if one asked.
Reasons that VIP dances are typically tamer can vary. The club monitors the VIP area more strictly, the dancer doesn't have to work as hard to keep you going for another song since you already paid for a half hour. The customer might make an ass of himself in the VIP since he expects more.
Most often isn't because the dancer will make less money from a half hour VIP than she makes during the busy times. Because of this Several dancers have offered discounts for a half hour of regular lap dances. Such as $150 to $200 for a half hour vs $250 to $300 in VIP.
Your at a buffet, enjoy it I say.
Most often is because the dancer will make less money from half hour VIP than she makes during the busy times.
This is sometimes very true. I especially like the girls who put their hand inside the pants and give a few strokes right before the song ends so I can't refuse another dance.