Q for Guys Looking for A Girlfriend in a Strip Club
I have a question for the guys out there who have the GUTS to admit that they go to strip clubs looking for a girlfriend:
When you are in a strip club looking for a girlfriend and strippers ask why you are there do you flat out say, "I am in a strip club looking for a girlfriend." If you do respond this way how do strippers typically react?
When you are in a strip club looking for a girlfriend and strippers ask why you are there do you flat out say, "I am in a strip club looking for a girlfriend." If you do respond this way how do strippers typically react?
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I'm DESPERATE, buying dancers' drinks for conversation with the dancers, hoping for a friend, buying lap dances because I'm desperate to have great times!!!!!!!
I'm DESPERATE, buying dancers' drinks for conversation with the dancers, hoping for a friend, buying lap dances because I'm desperate to have great times!!!!!!!
Most of the people who go to the clubs know what they're looking for. Just want to have good to great times.
Your question is silly and meaningless.
Ask questions which make sense. Be a gentleman.
So I guess their opposite, would be an anti-christian, captialist. A libertarian perhaps?
But I think I just realized something: Perhaps AN is right and really does not want to date a stripper. Well he really does witness his guilt and the fact that he more or less already has. What he really doesn't want to do is really date one. He already lies to his mother (and people on the internet) about being a professor of an anonymous physical science when he is merely a bartender. He does feel guilty about it. What if he were to date a stripper? What would he tell his mother and his "academic colleagues"? Perhaps his superinflated view of himself in his own mind (I am really a professor even though I don't know godel's theorem or what a turing award is and I go to church) would be lowered. Pretty funny considering he is one of these types who claim not "give a fuck" what other people think of him.
(I also know that you contradicted yourself about claiming to be a computer geek, I am thinking of writing a little script to generate an archive of all the accessible posts ever made here.)
But here are a couple of further questions to ask yourself:
1) Thinking back on the course of your hobby, which do you value more: The paid for fun you had, or the "genuine friendships" and times you did have sex w/ strippers w/o paying?
2) Do you think it possible, in the future, that you could form genunine friendships with strippers you really liked again, and have unpaid for sex? What if you made it your objectives, would the frequency increase or decrease?
davids, I am very honest and clear with myself, and with you. You simply choose not to believe me since it contradicts your favorite theories and your version of "truth". I do not and did not seek friendships in the clubs, or sex, or girlfriends. In a very few rare cases they happened. I did not blame things not working out well after sex on meeting in a strip club. That is your interpretation which is not based on anything I said.
I've been very clear ytour advice is worthless because you ascribe to me motives and goals I do not have. I don't know how much more simply I can put it. I DO NOT WANT TO DATE STRIPPERS. If you choose to believe otherwise I can't help that. You apparently are unable to cope with the possibility that someone somewhere in the world may have a different outlook on stripclubs, or life in general.
If they are REAL FRIENDS of yours who you "GENUINELY LIKED" - Did you ASK any of them for their REAL NAMES or PHONE NUMBERS did you EVER spend any time with ANY of them OUTSIDE THE CLUB for FREE?
Now let me recap. I do not want OTC meetings or sex or dates or friendship with strippers. I want to see them naked and grope them. To do this in the club costs money, and since I get something I want for my money I am happy to give it to them. These are not your goals. I know this because you have explained ad nauseum that your goal is to go to a club, spend virtually no money, and get dates with the strippers. Good luck to you.
Now, given that my goals are entirely different than yours any advice you have for me must take that into consideration. In short, your advice on how to score with strippers is useless to me because I am not trying to score with strippers. If I were trying to build a birdhouse and you came along with plans for a coffee table and started insisting I was doing everything wrong, what would you expect? Yet as many times as I and others try to explain this to you you keep insisting that no, we're trying to build a coffee table and we haven't a clue how to do it. I just want to build my birdhouse and discuss the best way to make a birdhouse with others interested in birdhouses. You won't let us do this without telling us that we will never make a decent coffee table the way we're doing things.
Your next argument will be that based on our statements we obviously want sex OTC and friendship from strippers because we talk about it. Well yes, in a decade of going to clubs I have hooked up a few times. It was not my plan, it just kind of happened. At the time it was exciting, fun, all of that, but it didn't end particularly well and I don't really want to do it again. A very few times I've given in and done something I am generally against doing, that's part of being human. It does not reveal anything deeper in my desires or psyche other than I will give into temptation like many others. A few times I have met strippers ITC whom I genuinely liked and considered real friends. I enjoyed their company and friendship, but it was not something I planned or went looking for, it is something that happens occasionally when people spend time with each other, regardless of where they meet. They also considered me a friend, but given the nature of where and how we met I was never comfortable taking things OTC. It's the nature of the beast. Much as you like or want to trust someone you have to hold out the possibility that they are not who they seem. If we'd met at a church social or through mutual friends it might be different, but the fact that we met at a place where she tries to get money and some men try to get sex has to influence the way you see things.
He is either dishonest to himself or at the minimum unclear what his objectives are and hence is not implementing a very effective strategy to acheive them.
He admits to meeting strippers he genuinely liked as real friends and a couple he even had sex with. Yet he feels guilty about it and also admits that things did not work out well after the sex. He blames this on meeting them a strip club. However, I do not think that is what the real problem is:
One of the real problems is that he started off as a customer, hence the awkwardness and determental effect on the relationship. Also although he admits he enjoyed his "relationships" and friendships he nows feels guilty about seeking them out.
I think a better strategy for him, and the countless men like him across the nation, is to simply not feel guilty about looking for relationships/friendships/(free) sex in a strip club. Also to not confuse the strippers as to whether you are there as a customer or have other objectives. So go into strip clubs and when asked why say you are "there to make friends, find a girlfriend", and then act consistent with this statement. You may be surprised at the results.
Why not try that one for a while, AN, and see if things work out better for you. Also if you have any more questions, please don't feel afraid to post: RL and I are here to help out men like you. Good luck.