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14 years ago

Sightly Off Topic - Internet OTC

I've been checking out quasi-reality sites like "Her Sweet Hand" (her-sweet-hand.com) and "Exploited Teens" (exploitedteens.com). I'm curious - are these types of hook ups even remotely plausible in the "real world?"

A few seem possibly legit - a guy advertises for a nude model/actress, is upfront during the interview, tells her what he wants, and if she agrees (which enough apparently do to support a website) he's getting it on with her for the camera, and presumably profits.

The guys usually appear quite ordinary and decent, although most don't show their faces. The girls don't seem coerced and in most cases, seem to enjoy it. I'm sure they're getting compensated in some fashion, but I can't imagine it's any more expensive than ITC or OTC. And these are real hotties, many of whom seem quite normal - that is, they're not professional porn stars or hardened strippers.

I DON'T like, nor am advocating, the use of trickery, deception, lying, degradation, humiliation, or intimidation like some websites promote (e.g., captainstabbin.com or backroomcastingcouch.com). IMHO, there's nothing cool about degrading a woman. I'm simply talking about mutually-agreeable sex that's on the up-and-up, as my mother would say.

Has anyone here thought about starting something like this, done it themselves, and/or know anyone who has? I'm not sure about legal issues. In other words, if I'm paying a woman to perform with me for a legitimate business purpose (with signed model releases, etc.), then is it any different than any other legal porn?

The process seems easy enough - a simple backdrop, a hand-held camera and tripod, and a girl. Even if the website didn't make any real money or only broke even, it'd still be cool. Thoughts?

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Alucard

Sex, real sex is person to person & skin on skin. NOT over the Internet with cameras.

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Rod84

Alucard - Right, I'm talking about starting a website, hiring the girls, having the real sex, filming the process, and posting the results.

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canny

I've seen some of the girls on those sites in other porn videos that were shot before the videos that were posted on those sites were shot. That doesn't mean that all of the girls on those sites are professional porn actresses, but I know that some of them are.

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inno123

The difference between it and legal porn is nothing, nothing at all.

Because long before the cameras have been rolling the actress has been interviewed, signed the releases, been at least partially paid, and gone over the scenario for the scene, which is "you've answered an ad for a modeling assignmet, I'll be playing the photographer. You pretend to be uneasy but eventurally agree because you really need the money and think I'm hot. You then do this, and then we do this and then I'll come on...."

In other words "The Audition" is just like "The Plumber" or "The Delivery Guy" or "The Babysitter". It is just a stock male fantasy scenario, with the advantages of being extra low budget to produce and plausible to repeat over and over again.

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Alucard

Just "plain" old sex on the Internet. HOW many millions of sites are there to compete with. Unless you have a great gimmick to differentiate yourself from those millions of other sites...Well I think it is a VERY fast track to bankruptcy, trying to start a site like that!

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Dolfan

I can tell you that those types of hookups can be real-ish. If you talk to enough strippers in the Miami area you'll find an aspiring model or two who stumbled into that kind of thing. They'll give you the story that you described, they responded to an ad and that they thought was for modeling and found out it was a porn shoot. I've only talked to one who actually did it, and she ended up doing making the rounds locally, repeating the process in Vegas, and then figured out she was making better money at Tootsies. What you see on tape isn't what actually happens, its the scene they agreed to produce being "acted" out.

I wouldn't recommend jumping on that bandwagon if you are just looking for some free OTC. From what I gather, its a bit more complex to be a producer of porn than just getting a camera, a release, and a few willing participants.

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deogol

In some states/local jurisdictions you can get away with it, in others they will still bust your ass. There is a reason porn is filmed in San Fernando valley and not the other localities.

If it isn't for prostitution, it'll be about zoning laws, business licenses, and a plethora of other laws designed to inhibit freedom (yes, I said that even though I am no fan of prostitution.) I mean, if the police come barging into houses holding bible studies (1), do you really think they won't come barging in on a porn shoot?

(1) washingtonexaminer.com

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shadowcat

I recognized one model from exploited teens. Here is Allie Sinn.

video.xnxx.com

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Rod84

Yes, I recognize Allie, too.

I guess the gist of the feedback is, these "reality" sites are purely fantasy. Basically, professional porn girls do the circuit of these sites, and are just acting out a role. There's no way a normal schmo could just set up a camera, advertise for girls, and reasonably expect a cadre of curious nubile young women to stream by and agree to have sex.

I suppose there's an analogy to stripper shit. Strippers are actresses simply performing for the money, doing the circuit of PLs in the club.

So be it. I was just curious if there was anything real to the portrayals on these sites. Especially "Her Sweet Hand." That site is about as low key and straight forward as it gets. And most of the girls seem sweet and not jaded - sort of like normal girls I'd see on a college campus or shopping at Whole Foods. It's appealing to think that under their public persona lurks a sexy vixen who'd give a sweet sensuous HJ, simply for the asking and a little monetary incentive.

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