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Why Girls Aren't Seen As Good Strip Club Customers

Eve
Where there's a hole, there's a way. [HIATUS]
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:49 AM
If you’ve ever sat in a strip club with a girlfriend and have been ignored for the entirety of your stay and you don’t know why, this may well answer a few questions. I don’t know if this is something that is thought about on a forum that is predominantly males, but there are several things about the female clientele that have earned them a stigma in the strip club world. Besides being a dancer myself, you all already know that I also monger on my off time, so because of this I have to be more pro-active when it comes to selecting and connecting with another dancer, and at the same time try to set a good example for other female customers. A large chunk of dancers (but not all) will agree that they choose not to interact with female customers - some even going as far as to say that they hate them. I don’t think I’ve personally had enough bad experiences with girls to say that I absolutely refuse to engage with them, as 80% of my interactions with them and couples have been mostly positive. But when I’m on shift and wearing the platform heels, I have seen and experienced some of the reasons why the other dancers feel the way they do. But I figured I’d I write this article to share some observations; make a list of each downside that’s often seen with girl customers, and how I’ve experienced a bit of the drama. 𝟙. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕜 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕪'𝕣𝕖 𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕚𝕥𝕝𝕖𝕕 𝕥𝕠 𝕕𝕚𝕤𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕/𝕗𝕣𝕖𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕧𝕖𝕣. You probably haven’t witnessed this yourself unless you literally sit by the front entrance to the club all the time, but some of these girls are completely desensitized to these regular night/urban clubs that are always advertising “Ladies Free Entry/Drinks/Etc Until 11 PM” or “Ladies Night Every Wednesday, No Entry Fee For Ladies” or literally anything else along those lines and just run under the assumption that all strip clubs act the exact same way. This moreso happens with a group of all girls rather than a couple or a group with a mixture of girls and guys, but I myself have seen this situation less than a handful of times at work. The funniest argument that one of the female custies threw out was that “the dancers come in for free, why not us?”, when in fact there is this wonderful thing called a ‘House Fee’. No female gets in for free, but strangely enough, there’s a common misconception (especially in bigger cities) that they can. 𝟚. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕨𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕠 𝕓𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝕠𝕗 𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟. This is a more common annoyance to dancers and something that every monger may have seen at least once. A group of guys and a girl or two go in, and they feel the need to show off to their friends and partners that they are a super open-minded chick that just has to let the world know that she is a strong independent woman that ~ loves ~ strippers. 75% of the time, these girls are drunk. Being in the mere presence of a stripper gets them riled up. They start straddling the guys at their table to show they, too, can give a decent lapdance. They start making out with their boyfriends passionately while sitting front and center at the tip rail while the dancer on that stage tries to not flash them the stink eye. She and her friend stand up from the group table and just start hoop hollering and dancing in excitement around them to fuel the ‘party’ atmosphere when really… they’re spooking off the real dancers from approaching anyone at that table. 𝟛. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕕𝕠 𝕟𝕠𝕥 𝕙𝕚𝕕𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕚𝕣 𝕛𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕠𝕦𝕤𝕪 𝕨𝕖𝕝𝕝. Every dancer’s personal favorite. The girl that tries to convince her boyfriend that she is totally open to the idea of going to a strip club, it’ll be totally fun, and it’ll be an experimental way to build trust with each other and boost confidence. It’s either that or the boyfriend begs the girlfriend to come along and the girlfriend eventually submits and gets dragged along - thinking maybe it won’t be so bad. They go inside the club, and the boyfriend doesn’t even have to look at any of the dancers. The girl can look at them all herself and suddenly feel her self-confidence draining from her mink eyelashes. If a dancer walks by and greets them, the boyfriend may smile, but the girlfriend remains stoic and keeps her gaze to the wall. If a dancer dares look the boyfriend in the eye while she’s laying spread eagle on stage, the girlfriend will shoot her medusa’s glare like she’s really hoping the stripper will turn into stone then and there. That’s when they’re just sitting and watching. The boyfriend may attempt to encourage his girl to engage with the strippers, asking questions like “Do you like her?” “Do you think she’s pretty?” “Do you want to tip her?” all of which will be met with a hard ‘no’. If she thinks she can handle it, she may get a couple’s dance from their select stripper, but she may lay down some rules like “Whatever you do, don’t touch each other’s crotch / don’t kiss each other / don’t do anything too intimate.” So a generic lap dance is all she’ll tolerate, and the dancer better not act like she’s turned on in the slightest, otherwise, she and/or the boyfriend will face the girlfriend’s wrath. 𝟜. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕓𝕖 𝕡𝕣𝕠𝕤𝕥𝕚𝕥𝕦𝕥𝕖𝕤. This issue seems more prevalent in bigger clubs and I myself haven’t seen this happen at either club I’ve worked at locally, but I’ve heard stories, and I’ve been told by club staff that this is the prime reason a lot of strip clubs won’t permit female customers inside without a male escort. The custy could simply be a working girl whose only motive is to go and find more johns to try and meet later. She’ll act like the stranger’s friend, exchange numbers to meet later, or if she’s bold she’ll just walk right out with him right behind her. A few clubs are so strict about keeping female customers away from males outside of their group that all it takes is a male custy to approach the female out of curiosity to greet her, and the bouncer will come along and tell her to leave. This is usually why I don’t say more than a ‘Hi, how are you?’ if a stranger tries to talk to me or tell me to join their friends at their table (even if it’s another monger that I just happen to know from another club or my own). I myself have never been booted from a club for being a suspected hooker, but I don’t want the slightest chance to be invoked. 𝟝. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕔𝕒𝕟 𝕓𝕖 𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 𝕒𝕘𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕚𝕧𝕖 𝕕𝕦𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕒 𝕕𝕒𝕟𝕔𝕖/𝕍𝕀ℙ. I say that I can vouch for this complaint for about… maybe a quarter of the girls I have danced for in my stripper lifetime. I don’t know if this is because the female custy is trying to turn on her partner or if because she’s just ultra horny for the stripper dancing for them, but some girls tend to push boundaries just as much if not more than aggressive male customers… but then get confused if the dancer asks them to stop doing whatever they’ve done. This is often because the mindset of the custy is ‘Well, I’m a girl too, so this is totally fine.’ I think I only had one truly frustrating dance with a girl that kept trying to shove her sloth-clawed manicured fingers between my legs, which of course scratched, so I told her it was hurting me, and then while I was reverse straddling her she spanked my ass so hard that it almost knocked me off of her lap. I simply said “Easy now” and her response was “Girl, if you don’t do your job…” My dance went from decent to half-assed after that comment. The other type of girl/couple that may fit in this category are the kind that takes a stripper back for one singular song just to see how raunchy she’ll get with them before they decide if they want to talk her into coming to their place later for a threesome. Sometimes they don’t get a dance at all and just ask if the stripper will be down to party with them, but if they DO get a dance, they will get very handsy, and it’s just the ‘test run’ for potential fun later. 𝟞. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕠𝕡𝕖𝕟𝕝𝕪 𝕞𝕒𝕜𝕖 𝕗𝕦𝕟 𝕠𝕗 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕘𝕚𝕣𝕝𝕤/𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕣𝕥 𝕕𝕣𝕒𝕞𝕒. Thankfully, the majority of my interactions with female customers have been positive or neutral at the worst, but once in a blue moon, a group of girls will come in with a guy friend or two in tow, and their only goal for their visit to the club is to be as big of a bitch to the dancers on stage as possible. I never understood the motivation behind these groups. Is it to look bold or feisty in front of their boyfriends? Do they assume that every single dancer is a working wage employee that may or may not be willing to lose her job just to hop over the stage rail and shut the girl’s mouth? They’ll always sit at the tip rail, tip only $1 or $2 at the most if there’s the slim chance they like the dancer, but if they don’t they will make their disappointment loud and clear. “My grandpa has a bigger ass than she does!” “I didn’t know they let male dancers work here!” “She just does this because she has no self-confidence!” “I can’t believe they let her work here!” The list could go on, but you get the picture. The guys in the group will sit in awkward silence and don’t try to chill the girls out. Of course, none of the dancers approach them after stage, because well… why would they? It never fails to put all the dancers in a shitty mood until they finally leave the club, and on occasion, it even bothers the other mongers if they’re sitting within earshot of the group. They ask what the girls’ deal is, and we honestly don’t know how to simply answer that. 𝟟. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕕𝕠𝕟'𝕥 𝕓𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕞𝕦𝕔𝕙 𝕞𝕠𝕟𝕖𝕪 This is pretty self-explanatory. If a girl does bring her own money to spend at the club, they usually don’t bring any more than maybe $30 - $50. That is sliced in half by the cover charge and drink orders, so all the money they have left could only be used to tip the girls or… buy more drinks. It is pretty rare for them to get a private dance - especially more than one, whether they’re on their own or with a partner. But on the contrary, one of my highest counts for dances in a row was by a couple - who ended up buying 24 from me on a slow Wednesday night. They are extremely rare, but they are out there, which I guess drives my motivation to greet couples and girl custies anyway while I’m at work. Obviously, because strip clubs are catered to the ‘lonely but rich’ male PLs, the females aren’t going to be seen as a primary target for having top dollar. 𝟠. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕛𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕒𝕔𝕥 𝕝𝕚𝕜𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕪'𝕣𝕖 𝕒𝕓𝕠𝕧𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕣𝕦𝕝𝕖𝕤. When a female custy is reminded of the rules or is reprimanded for breaking one of them, there’s a 50/50 chance it just goes in one of her ears and out the other. If she tries to touch the dancer in a no-touch club and a bouncer tells her to stop, she’ll do it again 2 more times. If she tries to record a dancer on stage and a bouncer tells her to stop, she’ll tell her friend to do it for her. If a girl refuses to buy a drink because it’s too expensive despite that the club has a one drink minimum, she will throw a tantrum. If a girl wanders into the girl’s dressing room without knowing that it’s employees only and the bouncer tells her to leave it, she’ll find her way back in on accident through another door (usually if the ladies’ restroom is connected to it). I think it’s a half and half mix between a sense of entitlement or strip clubs being commonly mistaken as a night club that has next to no rule enforcement other than having to be over 21. I believe I’ve covered the common negatives, and I’d like to believe that I don’t display any of these behaviors when I’m out and mongering. Because I’ve seen most for myself as a stripper, so when I go out as a customer, I want my chosen dancer to be as comfortable with me as I am with her. Hope I gave you mongers some food for thought.

21 comments

  • Uprightcitizen
    4 years ago
    Eve thank you for sharing. That's outstanding and useful feedback and seems completely appropriate as a TUSCL article. My experience was only limited to one time taking a girl I had a relationship with there but she was an ex-stripper and understood the game. We had a great time and I always felt I needed to be very selective on who I brought with me. Girls can get very polarized (one way or the other) when in the company of beautiful girls projecting sex.
  • nicespice
    4 years ago
    Females are alright...during busy nights and it’s all WOOHOO A POLE TRICK GONNA MAKE IT RAIN
  • minnow
    4 years ago
    Good interesting article, Eve. Of all the entertainment options a straight hetero female has, I'm just a little baffled why they'd chose to go to a strip club. As you pointed out, alcohol plays a role (especially with a group/pack of ladies), or else they're a reluctant drag along by boyfriend. Why guys would drag a female along to a club is another topic, especially when females are spring loaded to want to be the center of attention. Some guys just flat have poor judgement or are obtuse. I think some guys drag 1 or 2 females along as a dick move, as if to say to all other patrons- "look at me, I have 1 or 2 babes on my arm, and you don't." I personally don't "gas" about their motivation, just that I want any additional bodies sucking oxygen, and taking up space, I want them to be more dancers who can provide me fun.
  • Nidan111
    4 years ago
    My wife enjoys watching and talking to “the pretty ladies”. When she and I go together, it’s more for drinks and conversation. We tip $20 per 30 minutes conversation and pay for drinks. We tell the dancer up front what our goal is so that she can decide how she wishes to proceed.
  • misterorange
    4 years ago
    To me it just seems odd. I mean, there's no way in hell I would visit a strip club where male dancers are entertaining women. Not with a female companion, and sure as fuck not with a group of male friends. At the dive bar I've been going to for 20+ years, I've only seen two females (other than dancers/bartenders). One was the owner's girlfriend and the other was a middle-aged woman in business attire who also was just there to see the owner. Probably a sales rep for a beer distributor or something.
  • Eve
    4 years ago
    @spice, Yeah, when they're easily excitable, they're easier to entertain. LOL. @orange, the girl was being a smartass, saying the dancer on stage looked like a man. No signs of male strippers down here in Jack-off-ville!
  • boomer79
    4 years ago
    Never been to a club with girlfriend but I have been with a stripper from a different club. That was fun and very different.
  • Locutusbrg
    4 years ago
    Great insite Eve. I never have taken a woman in with me. When I see them I see conflict often. I would also like to point out sometimes a girl itc seems to be more interested in showing off for the guys. A bit of exhibitionist comes out. Usual my fav makes a negative comment about that one. Draws attention away from the girls trying to work.
  • Muddy
    4 years ago
    When I talk with strippers, this topic comes up alot with #5 and #8 being the main culprits in strippers fucking *hating* girl customers. When I first got into this I never woulda thought at all.
  • Eve
    4 years ago
    Usually once I tell my dancer of choice that I'm a dancer too, I notice they get more relaxed when talking to me. I guess when I tell them, they believe that I'm not a part of the dreaded 80% of female customers that pinches their nerve in one way or another.
  • herbtcat
    4 years ago
    @Eve, Wonderful article. Thank you. I've seen couples or small groups of women at clubs many times. I always assumed they were cool and didn't give it another thought. Of course I've heard the anecdotes of couples coming in to snag a stripper for an OTC three-way, and I always wonder if the couple expected the dancer to play for free... For my part, I've attended with female friends and/or mixed groups a few times over the last 30+ years. No hassles or problems and a few times one or more of the women in my group found a dancer that (at least said she) was into it. Off they went for a bunch of dances, and all seemed happy after... And there was a time about 2 years back when I brought my then sugar baby in at her request. She never said it, but I suspected she was bi (which I consider as wonderful!). We met a dancer who clicked well with both of us and I took all 3 of us back for about 30 minutes of VIP. It was off the hook: hands, nipples, tongues, and various other pink parts all sliding around together. My SB had about 3 orgasms, and I was treated to a double HJ with a split facial to cap off the session. A real bucket list event that was spontaneous and amazing. So based on your article, I'll count myself lucky to be on the good side of your observations. I really think I if we ever get to travel again, I need hang with you and buy you a beer just to hear more of your stories. They rock!
  • magicrat
    4 years ago
    Nice article Eve. I had a similar experience to herbcat's although not the same end result. I took a bi SB to clubs a couple of times. The first time she was like a kid in a candy store. Not many other customers in the club at the time so I gave her $100 and she goes to tip the dancer on stage. She keeps tipping and they keep talking. Meanwhile another dancer comes over to me so we each did table dances but separately. Let's just say my SB was more than ready to go afterwards. The second time we ended up doing a private VIP with a cute redhead. It was mostly the 2 of them having fun but when our time was up, the dancer left and my girl started giving me a nice bj in the vip room. F'ing bouncer sticks his head in and tells us we can't do that in there. I've taken a couple other girls to clubs and it's just been meh but fortunately none of the horror stories Eve mentioned.
  • DrStab
    4 years ago
    Hi, Eve. I’ve experienced No. 4 — a gal working the club. I was sitting at the bar, and two or three women came into the bar and also sat at the bar. I was in my early mongering days, and I didn’t know what to think about their attendance in this rather nasty club. Eventually, one of them started talking to me and I had a good time flirting with her and her friends. She started getting very handsy with me, and I was thinking that perhaps I was getting lucky with a civvie that night. But her approach got more handsy, and she then made the $$ offer. Disappointed, I sent her on her way.
  • GoVikings
    4 years ago
    number 2 i've witnessed. number 4 was told to me by a dancer that i've known for a while. number 5 is the one that surprises me the most. great article eve, we're lucky to have you here. you write some great stuff
  • lopaw
    4 years ago
    As a successful female customer I've seen all of those reasons mentioned many times over the years. I rarely have any problem finding dancers more than willing to dance for me and get approached often. Perhaps the fact that I prefer to club alone is a part of it, along with my willingness to spend plenty of money to bring the attention that I want. It all works for me and when the clubs eventually reopen I'll be right there to welcome them back!
  • Eve
    4 years ago
    Lopaw, I missed the fuck out of you. ♡
  • lopaw
    4 years ago
    Love ya baby girl - muah!
  • Jascoi
    4 years ago
    good article.
  • TxVegas
    4 years ago
    Well written (where do you get your fonts #font envy) I have heard number 5 the most. Dancers have told me they won’t dance for a particular couple because the women tried to finger her about ten seconds into the song and tries again after being politely rebuffed. I have been with a women I was dating and it can be very hot. She of course was respectful of the rules.
  • CJKent (Banned)
    4 years ago
    @herbtcat You wrote, and I quote: “My SB had about 3 orgasms, and I was treated to a double HJ with a split facial to cap off the session.” Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen. :D Good Times, Good Times.
  • Harderlap
    4 years ago
    There is another reason why single women can be a problem for a club - they are looking for their boyfriend or husband. I have witnessed problems caused by this twice. The first time the woman confronted the man verbally and loudly. It escalated into a shouting match that the whole club could hear and watch. Although the dancer on stage and the DJ were trying to keep everything together and away from the encounter; eventually the two were escorted from the club. The guy returned about a half hour later though, but everyone in the club ignored him. The second time I was sitting with my favorite dancer when a guy leapt out of his chair and bolted for the exit full speed, followed by a female. I couldn’t exactly figure out what was going on until the dancer that was with me said that the guy had been discovered by his girlfriend or wife. She told me that is why they don’t like to admit single women, and the bouncers are not supposed to let them in, although I always thought that was due to the prostitution aspect. So that is another you can add to your list.
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