The End of Strip Clubs?

"With dollars becoming scarce and the availability of affordable prostitution globally, less are willing to pay for just flirtatious female company."

Obviously you have not heard of the coming economic boom..

^^^^ Will guys be buying more wagyu beef or less after the economic boom? I'm confused

It would seem that somehow they are going to make it all go in the direction of the TJ Hong Kong Bar. There are someways it could still be improved upon, but not too many.

Nevada brothels adding strip clubs, instead of the old line up, now you can fraternize.

My suggestion of Karoke Girls, to get around local ordinances. Fraternize and pick your girl up front, no one knows what goes on in the back room.

Strip clubs with on site motel. Very hard to prove anyone is breaking the law.

Mosly I think this is the way, the law just becomes impossible to enforce, and so eventually you can have Hong Kong Bar like places.

GOOD ARTICLE!

SJG

I remember going to a bar and hotel setup in Pennsylvania in the 1980's that had GO GO girls that would go topless in their last set. They were go go girls. We never called them strippers. I don't think strip clubs will ever go away. They may try to legislate them out of certain areas but it is all supply side economics. Guys are willing to part with their hard earned cash and there will always be girls willing to do what they need to do to get that cash. It's quite simple and I enjoy spending my cash on women and what they will do for that cash !

And if they do get legislated away like alcohol in the '20s, I'm sure any number of speakeasy-type strip joints will open up.

As long as there are horny teenagers in need of discovering what naked women look like up close, strip clubs as we know them now will exist. It's one thing to jerk off to some online video and another thing entirely to have some lovely lady do it for you in person. OTOH, I think one of 3 things will happen:

1. Strip clubs will be relegated to specific sexually oriented business districts, whether it's some place like Washington Park, IL, or some sexually oriented zoning law comes into effect.
2. Strip clubs will evolve into something like what Tijuana is now.
3. Worst case scenario, they all close up, whether they get closed down by LE or they just fade away, like how some clubs that used to be great in the 90's are now a shell of what they used to be.

"It is all supply side economics... there will always be girls willing to do what they need to do to get that cash"

Yes, but have you accounted for how the substitution effect will affect the movement of the stripper supply curve in the upcoming economic boom?

I think zombies will play their part in determining our future.

Steve229 I'm sorry I failed to consider that ! The substitution effect along with advances I robotics could put all the girls out of business. All the club owner would have to do is buy a fleet of beautiful 10+ robots and substitute those for the girls. They could do nonstop extras in vip and all the money would go to the club. They could be programmed to dance perfectly on the poles so that no more complaints would ever be uttered by the Whales . With the introduction of robot babes every BBBJCIM WOULD Be perfect. Every FS would be just what the client wanted. Hell who needs girls bring on the robot babes !

What coming economic boom? I still see a lot of middle class folks struggling. Maybe more lower paying jobs, but I don't see an internet type explosion happening anytime soon.

I don't think any so called economic boom will reduce SCing. These things always help those at the top and leave more and more people with nothing. So as the US is continuing to become more and more like a 3rd world nation, we should expect to see ever more expansion of SC's and other P4P venues.

I would like to see something happen here like the TJ Hong Kong Bar. There is still some room for improvement with that, but not much.

Mostly it seems like it just comes down to when it is that LE will admit that certain types of laws cannot be enforced, and so they give up. It Is also just that when you get enough people involved on all ends of it, then political support for enforcing the laws will dry up.

So I don't see any end in sight, I see improvement and proliferation.

SJG

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Sorry, but you guys could not be more wrong. You really need to read this super important post by Dougster (he's "in finance" so he knows this stuff, ok?):

tuscl.net

SYNOPSIS: Notwithstanding all the calculated doom and gloom in the financial media which is really misinformation that is calculated and allowed to spread unchecked until it has served its purpose one way, the world and the US, in particular seem to be just at the beginning of an economic boom that will easily be the greatest in word history.

Well written!

I personally think there's no end to strip clubs in modern history:) Surely this industry matures every year,has it's ups and downs like any other.But there's more than one reason it came to existence.Guys need an adventure,girls need this sort of job...Its not all about the tease,it's courtesaneiry in all different forms,some are more sexual than others,there all types of guys to sort out,so the play field of strip clubs is here to stay for good.X

Yes, I agree, it is never going to go away. Certainly another financial speculation bubble will not bother it.

If the original poster meant that strip clubs of a limited or no touching type could go away and we would be left with just straight up brothels, then maybe. But I still think brothels have come to like the strip club form of front room, or selection area. This is how it seems to work in most 3rd World countries. This is how it works at the number one spot in the Western Hemisphere, the TJ Honk Kong Bar, this is how it works at the most extreme SC's in the US, and at least two Nevada Houses are adding SC's as their front room. And besides, the US really is becoming a Third World country itself.

As far as courtesaneiry, I think men like to talk with such women because they are both desirable and potentially available as sex partners. Even if the man only wants to talk with her at that time, her potential availability for sex is necessary for her appeal. If she thinks she is better than the man, too good to be having sex with him, then she is not going to be received very well.

about Lola Montez, one of the most famous courtesans of all time: imdb.com

SJG

A lot of good comments here.

I'm not sure who will change first, the industry or the customer. It seems that in the article that the customer has changed to a degree. For myself I am no longer willing to part with my money for a cheap grind and no satisfaction when I can spend the same for full on satisfaction. The local brothels offer it all and it is just up to you to put your head in the right place. (?) I pick the girl I want and have her slowly strip and grind for me till we get to the main event. It's a lap dance, strip show, and the full deal all in one!

I agree that young men who do not have the funds for full gratification will just see strippers, but more will be needed for the lapper that is looking for more. This is where clubs will need to advance and contain brothels. This will also need the support of local laws so that LE is not wasting time busting consenting adults.

The local governments need to wise up and see this for the cash cow that it is. The taxes gained could be great. But let's save that for another article.

The fact that this is all a huge underground economy, where the money is untaxed, should be a big issue!

SJG

As for the thrill of the chase, it's still there. Now I chase the chemistry that two people can have. Yes, when it's a sure thing I'll get the big prize, but how will I arrive at my goal! Is she just mechanical and only does one position or is it like we are in our own porno movie doing every position we can think of? Is it 2 Christians doing mish, or are we on each other like two animals in heat? Maybe you like to suck toes, is she into that? Maybe you like to worship certain areas. Maybe you both want to play master and slave.

The quest does not end at the destination, but is the journey. And when you put it all together how could you ever go back to spending your hard earned money for someone to just shake their butt 2 feet from your lap?

Strip clubs need to change and adapt, or look for more minimal wage earning young men who don't know any better to support them.

@Lappinme2,

Yes, I'm with you completely. I have no interest in just paying a woman money to make me ejaculate. It is the chase, it is getting under her skin and getting her to open up to me. DFKing makes a big difference. FS of course has a big effect. It is a big deal for a woman to submit to that with a guy for the first time, even it if is P4P. Just so long as she is not dissociating.

So of course the more GFE the FS can be, and the less "extras" like, the better.

Best is if the girl will just open up. Instead of performing a service, if she will just "let you have your way with her." So yes, I guess this is more brothel like, an idealized brothel, or RedBook AAMP service. One of the SJ AMPs I window shopped on the 11th is known for AAMP style sessions. Not surprisingly I only got to talk with the Mamasan, as the RA's ( including the owner ) were always busy back in the session rooms. If they live up to their reputation, they deserve to be kept busy, except maybe for when they need to take their dough to the bank.

I agree with you fully that the high cost and the fact that lower income men sometimes get treated differently, and that often they cannot even afford to play at all, are the weakness in all of this.

I think though we should first focus on the service style and quality issues, RB-GFE = DFK + DATY + BBBJ + MSOG. When it comes to strip clubs we should have the open fraternizing of the Hong Kong Bar. This way you have the best chance of cozying up to your girl and getting her softened up. Then we should have a Hong Kong Bar back room experience, conducive to lengthier sessions and to letting the girl stay as much into overtime or partially off the clock as she wishes.

So we aim for a Hong Kong Bar front room, and a Hong Kong Bar back room. It really is that simple. There are some areas where the Hong Kong Bar could still be improved upon, but it is already so far ahead of what we have now, that we should be aiming for it.

Rather than posting reviews which could get clubs into trouble and often deal with unimportant things, and instead of tipping out bouncers and waitresses and other freelance extortionists, we should be evaluating those parameters which support GFE-FS versus those which discourage it.

Most of the AMP girls I have been with would have liked to be able to spend more time with me, like for multiple rounds. And I could have made better selections and made it go better with them if I'd of been able to fraternize more openly in the front room. And the clip joint approach currently taken in the San Francisco strip clubs would dissolve.

I am working now to build an organization of men and women, a counter cultural group. I must keep quite about most of this. But one of the promises is that all the men will be kept pussy saturated, be they young or old, 365 days per year and that there is never any charge for this. What I mean is, you'll get all you can handle, each day. If you are young and can do lots of quickies, this is what you will get. We will have women with suitable experience ability to meet this need. If you are older and like to go slower, this is what you will get. If you like to bed down with your girl, this is what you will be getting. It is not P4P, not in anyway at all. It is a shared and cooperative alliance between men and women. Everyone will get substantial economic benefit, and the women will be at the head of the line for the later life and health care benefits.

I want to ask you one thing, just my curiosity. You spoke of brothels. I suppose you mean from the same area where your reviews are coming from. Are you meaning AMPs? Do you mean some kind of non-Asian massage? Canadian shops? What is it that you are referring to. If you don't want to say more out in the open, perhaps you can PM me or even PM me and ask for my email address.

SJG

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I doubt strip clubs will be going out any time soon and while some do offer extras, a lot don't still from what I have heard. The two places I go here on the east coast allow a lot of millage depending on a few things: how strict the club is, how open the girl is, how drunk you are or are not, and how you treat the ladies. All the times I have been to the two places I usually go in the short time since I have started going they always treat me well.

Apparently theres many frat boys, grabby, or not so polite people that go there at times, don't tip, or do not get dances cause whenever I am there I tip well, get a dance or two and have never had trouble getting a good private dance. A few times I have gotten a little more during a private dance without asking or evengiving the impression of wanting more just cause of how I act and treat them.

Im with mo head...ebola kills of strip clubs then they cum bake wit zombie extras