Comments by alphapol

@ rowdy: The $200 included the room fee, and I didn’t tip anyone beyond that at first, just the $100 to the girl after. This was during a kinda slow day shift, so maybe she gave me a good deal. Or maybe she loves me.

Costs sound about right for SF. $500+$100 tip for a 30 minute VIP room may actually be on the less expensive side for this town. Surprised OP actually asked for (drink) service, since the reason you tip the bouncer/waitress IME is so that they DON’T come back, therefore giving you more privacy to do your thing. Might’ve had a problem if someone walked back in to find your girl doing a line off you.

(I accidentally hit “post your comment” before I was done.) 3. As PC said, there is a communal $30 LD area, which is located opposite the bar near the entrance on the other side of the rectangular catwalk. My one LD there was very high mileage, followed by a pretty aggressive private room upsell (def an extras club). My dancer was also very pushy in trying to get a drink from me, I’m sure at an inflated price with a kickback to her. For me alone, it was $6 for a well vodka soda. 4. “They all were gowns when not dancing, but they are mostly slutty looking strippers gowns, not the type of gown you would see at a real formal event.” - Good thing to clarify for newbies. I had never heard of strippers wearing gowns, and somehow naively envisioned a ball gown with fabric from head to toe. Stripper “gowns” are more akin to lingerie-like sleepwear or slip dresses. The gowns are kind of an interesting novelty, but I prefer more traditional SC stuff.

Great review. I thought about writing one for a visit I had last week, but didn’t bother since I was only there for 20 minutes or so. I’ll piggyback and add a few things though: 1. Reiterating that the club really is quite nice inside and out. Probably the nicest club in Pompano, even a step above the remodeled Booby Trap. 2. The day shift (anecdotally) is pretty weak. When I came in at 4pm on a Saturday there maybe 5 dancers and 3 PLs. Wouldn’t normally bother me, but none of the 5 were interesting enough.

I did come here a second time and was quoted the same $125 + tip by a different girl, so that seems to be the standard rate for a private room here now. Still couldn’t really get a definitive answer on how many minutes that buys you. I think I heard 30, 45, and 60, depending on who you ask.

@ iknowbetter: What’s a typical percentage tip for locals? Same for LDs vs. VIP?

@ BuckMcNutter: I’m not sure what a standard tip is in SoFlo, it seems that most on here would tip nothing? I’m so numb to SF prices, that getting FS with a 9 for $200 all-in almost felt.. wrong. Even after reading the reviews on here, it seems that $200 was on the low-end, and I was already mentally prepared for up to $400. In the end, I was just feeling generous I guess.

I'm not going to bother addressing the whole trolling/lying thing. You don't have to believe me, and I really don't care. I'll mention/respond to a few things though: @ ilbbaicnl: Thanks for introducing me to tryst.link and www.theeroticreview.com. This was my first time using a website to source a SW (for an outcall "nuru" massage GFE), and it went pretty well. She wasn't exactly like her pictures suggested, but it was a good time and, most importantly, she wasn't an undercover cop lol. The most surprising thing about the encounter was that she offered FS without a cover (no way), but wouldn't let me CIM hah. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. I'm not sure I'd do this kind of thing again, but for anyone else completely new to this kind of thing, I found this Reddit post helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/hzivvb/how_to_find_a_safe_provider/ @ rl27: Agreed. In my area I've found that OTC is generally cheaper than ITC, and the girls like it because they don't have to worry about tipping out, kickbacks, taxes, etc. If they are to be believed, the girls at my go-to SC in SF (Gold Club) say they only keep something like 20% of the base rates for rooms, everything else goes to the club. Insane. Has to do with their recent conversion from 1099 contractors to W-2 employees. @ sirachabob: I assumed famous porn stars would cost even more, so good to know it's an option, but probably not for me. I don't know about others, but I do like the thrill of the hunt trying to convert a stripper into more whether ITC or OTC. You probably don't get that same feeling when banging a porn star in a straight P4P transaction. Point taken about the opportunity cost though, and totally agree with you on the risk of using Tryst/Eros, which I just learned about first hand. Re: "What is the purpose of overnight stay? Yourr paying them to sleep with you, or is it an all night sex session? I guess it depends on the guys wants, but i wouldn’t pay someone for sleeping with me." For me, it's part of the GFE, with the girl falling asleep next to you for the night vs. immediately showering and bolting after you nut. And it's a great way to wake up in the morning too. To each his own. @ DeclineToState: GC is certainly not a brothel-like SC, but if you don't think extras can be had by greasing the security guy and drink girl, when they have rooms there with closed doors and no cameras, I don't know what to tell you. Hell, I've gotten extras in the room adjacent to the front staircase that every walks by, but the ones at the end of the hall are certainly ideal. That being said, I'd say less than 25% of the girls at GC offer extras, so you just have to feel each girl out. And to be clear, ITC FS is very hard to get at GC, it's mostly just HJs/BJs. @ Leanard313: If you're on the Sutter Health network, you can request an STD panel through the MyChart app and just show up at your nearest lab without an appointment. It's pretty convenient. And I think Quest even offers at-home STD testing kits. I'm only seeing this girl about twice a month, so getting tested every other week or so isn't bad, and IMO totally worth it for the peace of mind.

Thanks all for your feedback, insights, and laughs. I clicked through one of the escort links above and actually feel a little bit better about what I've been paying my ATF. While $2,500 for ITC extras is clearly insane, unbeknownst to me, it's not unheard of for escorts to charge something in that range when they spend the entire night with you. And to her credit, my ATF has spent the entire night with me the vast majority of the time when doing OTC, with MSOG of course. So there's that at least. Sounds like I could still do a lot better, and I like the idea of trying to turn this from a per encounter model into a subscription model. We all know tech companies love those subscription models, and hopefully my ATF does too. @rattdog: Like with many bad decisions, it started with a lot of alcohol. But I do remember the exact moment I agreed to that $2,500 number. For context, I had seen this 10/10 girl in my regular SC a few times prior, but she never struck me as an extras girl because she was very new (first month), very young, somewhat innocent looking, and, most tellingly, low mileage with LDs. But on this night I decided to take her up to a VIP room since we had been chatting for over two hours and that was my way of compensating her for time (I honestly forgot to tip her along the way and never bought any dances; it's amazing that she stuck around to talk for that long just to talk). When we got up to the VIP room, she for the first time ever insinuated that she was willing to do more, and proceeded to stick my finger all the way down her throat, with zero gag reflex, while doing some amazing trick with her tongue piercing. And after a few seconds of that, she did this thing where she wiped away a tear that had formed, causing her eyeliner to run. I don't know why, but that realllly turned me on. She then named her price, and I immediately said yes.

@ drewcareypnw: Hah. My ATF actually brought her friend along once and didn't upcharge me, gotta love that. Spent most of the time focusing on my ATF anyway, but getting blown by two chicks was cool. But otherwise, too much work to pleasure two chicks in a threesome. Just not for me I guess. @ iibbaicnl: Makes sense, but then you have high COL places like Miami where the rates are much more reasonable. Supply and demand, like everything. Never done escorts, mostly because I don't know where to look, but also paranoid about LE in my area. I'll do massages while traveling to friendly places (Puerto Vallarta, Montreal, etc.). Don't know if there's much of a scene close to home. Wasn't saying saying my ATF is a piece of trash, but she is a whore be definition. I actually like her a lot as a person. @CandymanOfProvidence: ITPL?

@ rattdog: I would put her in that league, although a little more cute than hot perhaps. I give a brief description in my first post. She’s a bit of a unicorn for me, which is why I’ve put up with her rate for so long. I really can’t think of anything wrong with her (other than the fact that she’s a whore that charges too much). It’s not that hard to find a 10 around here, but pretty hard to find one that can DT like her, does everything uncovered (we get tested before each session), enthusiastic no flinch facials, natural tits you can wrap around your cock, allows photos/videos, etc. I can’t get enough of her. I think I’m talking myself into just keeping the status quo lol. This trip to Miami will hopefully be a nice reset and make me realize there are others.

@ceoaticeesangelsllc: Yeah, you're right. I've never done the straight hooker thing, always seemed like too much of a risk (getting caught in some LE sting). @twentyfive: Will do. Pretty excited about the trip since latinas are my thing. Will be hitting up Tootsie's, Dean's Gold, and the Pompano big-3. @wld4tatas: Yeah, that's pretty much what I've decided to do. Would rather see her half the time and continue to have great experiences vs. having her resent me and cut back on services. @ drewcareypnw: Guess it's all relative. Being in San Francisco, you can make 7 figures and feel like you're scraping by sometimes, especially when a lot of the people you know have had 8-9 figure liquidity events and retired in their mid-30s. But this isn't really about the absolute dollars involved; I'm more concerned with getting good relative value. @motorhead: Outside the Club rate. How much it takes to have her go on a date in the real world, then take her back to your place. @ilbbaicnl: San Francisco. Wasn't aware of any good SCs in the East Bay? SJ is garbage. Too lazy to drive to Sac. This girl is a 10, working in SF, so who knows. I've heard crazy stories about what some girls make. $10k-$25k for single visits with whales, while being flown private to their vacation homes. Hell, the high mileage >40 year old SC MILFs usually start by asking $1k for ITC BJs. Thanks for the feedback. I don't want to make her resentful, that's the kiss of death. @Muddy: I live in San Francisco, I only own EVs lol.

Oh I know I’m being played, and I know I’m paying wayyy above market. But then I’ll drop $400-$500 on a new girl, have a lackluster nut, and tell myself it’s worth paying for the best. Maybe I’m in love lol. I’m flying out to Miami on business tomorrow, extended my trip by a week just to monger, and hope to get some perspective on how bad I’m getting screwed so I can more easily let this girl go.

Like I said.. I hate to admit it. I've never spent that much on any other girl ($1k/visit was my max before this, and only for 10s), but she set a high baseline for the first ITC extras experience, caught me in a moment of weakness so I agreed to it, and it somehow snowballed into a regular ITC and OTC thing at the same initial rate. I've been had, but my God is she good. (Yes, I'm still justifying it to myself.)

Thanks all for the feedback, which basically confirms what I assumed. I think I'll just scale back the number of OTC visits. If she eventually asks why, I'll tell her it's been getting a bit too expensive, stock market has been rough, or some other BS. That way I'm not "devaluing" her by requesting a rate reduction, but it gives her an opening to maybe meet me in the middle if it means more visits, and ultimately more money in her pocket. Will also start looking for my next ATF, but annoyed at the prospect of making the associated time investment. @ drewcarypnw, $2.5k.

It’s kind of a hazy memory at this point, but I remember being really impressed by the Atlantis Gentleman’s Club near Chicago. It is a visually striking structure that looks like a white marble palace (akin to Caesar’s Palace in LV), but it’s in the middle of nowhere by the Indiana border so it really sticks out as you drive up to it.

$20k was a number one of the girls threw out as her take for an entire night, and she said that was without extras lol. SS, I hope, to make me feel better about what I was spending. Another girl told me she’s pulled five figures “several” times. $500-$1k seems to be the going rate for a BJ.