Comments by Notreallytom

For the adjudicator who says “Club Ad” I can’t prove to you this isn’t one (and it’s not my review) but I used to visit this place when I knew a nice lady there, and the only part of the OP’s story that is unexpected is the low, low price (no upsell beyond basic fee), but he may be more handsome and persuasive than the rest of us are, or it was his lucky day.

Yup I also asked to add Angels

Just a head’s up: On a recent visit to DV8 a dancer told me they are in talks to be acquired by the owners of Devil’s Point and Lucky Devil (maybe they’ll call it DeVil8?) and there are expected to be changes to dance parameters. I hope this does not come to pass…

Thanks for the review and even more for the news about Desertscrub!

I’m curious whenever I see a listing with no reviews for so long, so thanks for the review.

So maybe not great to name the girl and the act and the price all in the same place. Let’s not give LE any help ruining our fun or anyone’s livelihood. Good to hear you had a good time and that’s what counts in the end. You overpaid, though. Negotiate harder, and take your own advice - to bring money - it works if you only bring what you are willing to spend, and stop there. No girls want you to walk out and not spend the rest of your cash. For what you spent there is WAY more available, there and elsewhere.

Lucky, I am not comfortable giving details in an open forum. Many people have messaged me privately about this review and place. It’s probably worth updating a bit though: I visited two more times, seeing different and very attractive ladies those times. Though the experiences were great, the amount of upsell to get what I wanted was huge. None of the ladies I have seen there are still there. I have heard from some ladies that there are some management issues causing turnover. Though I would say the place is still classy and the ladies gorgeous, I have found more affordable experiences lately at Xsensual (3 locations: Foster, 82nd - old HoneySuckles, and 92nd / Sandy) but I can’t review them because TUSCL hasn’t done anything with my request to add a listing. Just Bliss and Sylvia’s are also good options that I would recommend over Peaches these days.

LM shops are never the cheapest option, but if you want the certainty of some action on a given day they are more of a sure thing compared to just showing up at a strip club hoping for satisfaction (unless you know a favorite lady that does what you want is there, which is the best situation). Consider LM as one leg of a 3-legged stool in your strategy to deal with your ongoing horniness, or a 2nd/last resort after the strip club doesn’t pan out that day.

Speaking of Angels I stopped by there to check it out this afternoon. Can’t post a review as no listing yet (I suggested one to TUSCL but…). The place will need time to get going. The only renovations from old Tommy’s are a door on the bathroom and 2 cameras in each LD room. No one dancing at 2:15 (opens at 2 though) but one clothed lady talking to bartender (audition maybe?) so ordered a drink and 2 ladies came out: one a huge (BBW+) AA lady and one thick and curvy tall AA girl who I watched on stage and did a 4/$100 dance with. Not sure what later shift dancers are like. Clear that management had put minimal money and effort in so far. Since owned by the same group as 82nd strip and Columbia strip they can funnel dancers over (confirmed by the lady I met). More details when I can do a full review.

Has anyone requested TUSCL to add a listing for Angel’s?

I feel your pain. Even though this is a business for the ladies, whether it is actual feelings or a cold hard assessment of your loyalty and your potential to return regularly there is definitely a reaction to one’s activities with other girls and therefore a minefield to be navigated when seeing multiple ladies at one club. I always do dances with several ladies at a club in trying it for the first time (or at which I have not formed any kind of bond with a lady) but it’s to the point now where when I choose where to go and what day I have to not only look at schedules to see who is there but also navigate considering who is not there so I don’t piss off someone I like who thinks of me as “theirs”. I have frequently heard the phrase “she stole my regular” in conversation. Strippers are definitely NOT drama-free :)

It’s just no-win with Mr.DS

Yes still $250 for VIP there. See confirmation in someone else’s previous review of this place from last month. I’m sure the new rooms will be more when they are finished.

So I’ll admit it’s been a few years since I’ve been here. Maybe they are under new management and things have changed (for the better based on what’s stated), but some things are definitely different in this review than what I remember. From 2 years back. Yes the club is clean, but there was no “down” to go down for the VIP area - all private dances were upstairs, with sheer curtains and big honking cameras in every booth (my favorite dancer from another club I had come to see had to go from no limits to making me keep my hands on the couch) and the prices were much higher - half hour VIP was over $300….as it is most places in town…and maybe 3/$100 but I remember more for 3 also. Prices rarely go down over time. So apologies for doubting the reviewers facts but…skeptical.

Thanks for the review. Surprised no adjudicator said “too explicit” (I’m not criticizing - just seen that response before). Standard response from desertscrub. All in all similar to my best experiences at this place. It’s never cheap but always satisfying if you have the cash. As the reviewer says there is variance among the girls and their offerings and I think I know which girl he saw and she is the best. As I have mentioned in other LM shop reviews and as this reviewer experienced, one of the most powerful negotiating techniques is actually to show up only with what you are willing to spend but expect to spend it all, then you can say “that’s all I have” honestly without seeming like a cheapskate and probably still get what you want.

You can try to negotiate harder. If the girl was new to the place, there will be dollar signs in her eyes hoping people will say yes to elevated prices. If you go again Try saying “I only brought X can you work with me” and see if you can get a better deal. I agree you can always find the same fun for less…if you know where to go and which dancers to see and they are at your club of choice when you go…but the show parameters at Sylvia’s could be compared to a half hour VIP dance in a fully private room at a strip club, which would start at $250-$350 around town, without any extras guaranteed by the point you’ve offered up your $. The premium you pay at LM shops is for more privacy and more certainty, (and hotter ladies you can pick in advance on the website) but it’s definitely not for the budget conscious.

Thanks, been wondering about this place.

Actually I get why Desertscrub is always in a bad mood. He’s jealous. I went to Phoenix recently and looked up reviews to decide which club to visit. After reading all of them it looks like Phoenix is a wasteland without a single good club. Nobody likes any of them and nothing good ever happens there. It would make me pretty grumpy too. Luckily I don’t live in that hell-hole.

Typical pricing I have encountered is $40/ dance, 3/$100 but it’s not posted.

The lottery machines (not that I ever partake) were shut down and later taken out over non-payment of fees. Not a good sign for the business. I have been coming here off and on for many years and this year my visits have always been early or late afternoon on weekdays. It is not uncommon for no dancers to be on stage before 2PM. The DJ doesn’t even start until about 1. This does not prevent one from visiting ones favorite dancer for an uninterrupted and maybe un-metered (by the DJ) session in the private dance area, by prior arrangement. Good luck coming in randomly and finding a new favorite girl though. It would be hard unless you come in later when more girls are there. It’s too bad if they are struggling because in general this is a comfortable, friendly club (bartenders have your drink memorized if you are a regular).

My suggestion here and at other lingerie modeling places is to negotiate a bit harder, and the best initial technique is to say you only have X to spend and you would like Y and see what is offered and if it is vague be a bit more specific. By the time you are sitting on the couch naked they know you’re not wearing a wire. Use euphemisms if it makes you feel better. You need assistance to achieve your goal, etc. I have gotten way more for less money than the OP paid at this and other similar places. But it also varies a lot from lady to lady so one out of 10 times a new girl won’t do anything fun at all. If the place shows profiles on the web pick someone you like the look of who is not brand new and go during their shift. With the exception of knowing a dancer somewhere and visiting her regularly and knowing exactly what mileage you will get, lingerie modeling is a bit more of a sure thing, so higher cost perhaps on an individual visit basis, but not compared to totaling up hit-and-miss visits to regular clubs. Why visit regular clubs then? Alcohol. Entertainment. Socialization. Wider selection of ladies on any given visit, the option to not do a dance and not spend more than a few tips and a drink before leaving, etc.