discussion comment
11 hours ago
@FoCoChronic
Remember
“In this country, you gotta make the money first.
Then when you get the money, you get the power.
Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface (1983)
Since you said you can afford her…
I would refer you to Demosthenes (384 – 12 October 322 BC)
~ Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.
1. We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure.
2. Concubines for the daily health of our bodies, and
3. Wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes
In this list is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.
In today’s world Demosthenes would say:
We have:
1. High end escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, Strippers (ITC OTC) etc that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/Concubines; etc, for the daily health of our bodies.
3. Trophy Girlfriends/Wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes.
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembots, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”.
5. Street walkers and 304s for when you are horny, drunk, high, depressed, bipolar or just plain stupid and crazy, poor and miserable and can’t afford anything else.
Historically It is the same all over the world…
If you have the money and can afford her and possibly many others, buy what you can comfortably afford and enjoy all of it,
if you don’t have the money or you can’t afford it economically, mentally, morally, emotionally, physically, intellectually etc etc etc then don’t buy things you can’t afford…
Let’s be careful out there there.
:D
discussion comment
2 days ago
@FoCoChronic
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: Have I been getting strung along the whole time so I keep coming back to the club and she never had any intention of OTC to begin with?
A: I think that yes, you have been.
Q: Did I fuck up by not pulling the trigger immediately?
A: I think that yes, you did,
Q: Could it happen eventually?
A: I think that’s yes, it could happen, if you become the man in the relationship and are willing to pay the price, not only in money, but in time and effort.
You wrote and I quote:
“I can clearly afford her and I would think at this point I’ve demonstrated that I’m not a total creep and I care about her comfort level and boundaries, otherwise things wouldn’t have progressed this far, right?“
I think you might be wrong in thinking/believing that you have demonstrated not to be a creep.
It is really up to her to decide what is her worth to sell you what you want, some girls wont do it with you at any price.
I think you might still have a chance of having sex for money with her, because Informal prostitution is very common in the “modern dating world”.
What I would recommend to you is to first decide what is your ultimate goal?
The TUSCL Glossary definition of OTC as:
Outside The Club - Meeting with a dancer for anything from an after work snack at Denny's to a dinner date to an escort session. Not usually approved of by the club or by many dancers.
However most people in TUSCL expect/want some kind of sexual contact/relationship, who doesn’t?
You have to decide, in advance, if you are interested in her for an OTC “relationship”, as a one night stand, “escort type of session”, develop a sugar baby type of relationship, make make her your girlfriend, future mother of your kids, kept woman, 🏆 trophy wife, dinner date, etc etc etc
Since you said she suggested sushi, the next time she mentions it you should say “I would like to take you for sushi, and I would like to have you for dessert”, and laugh about it.
In my humble opinion and limited experience, I think she appears to be interested in YOU for some reason, (your wallet) but consider yourself lucky that she told YOU she wants to have a “little sushi date” with YOU. It might just be “love (of your wallet) at first sight”...
If you are interested in OTC with her on the long run you can suggest the method/relationship that better works for you for example the P4P method and if it goes well for you two develop a sugar baby type of relationship. it is up to you, whatever you decide, and can comfortably afford.
The most important thing is good communication and clear understanding of what you and her are talking about and agree to do.
I usually let the girl know that I value my time and her time and don’t want to waste her or my time.
As always just remember:
“Nothing ventured, nothing gained”
A sexual/romantic/business pursuit often require to “risk” one of two situations:
1. pursuing when interest is not reciprocated (resulting in rejection)
2. failing to pursue when interest is-may be reciprocated (resulting in a missed opportunity).
Make sure that you let her know that you are interested in a mutually beneficial relationship/arrangement. And let her decide if you are worth her time and effort.
Let’s be careful out there, and don’t fall in love/lust with a stripper, unless she has a heart of gold.
:D
discussion comment
6 days ago
@sfrsox
I will play along and answer your question.
Q: When does Mexico get independence from cartels?
A: Mexican Independence Day is celebrated on 16 of September in Mexico.
This date marks the beginning of Mexico’s fight for independence from Spanish colonial rule, which started in 1810
On July 4, 1776, British paranoid hypocrites and ungrateful malcontents men that shifted authority and lawmaking, from the king to private potentates during the Second Continental Congress unanimously adopted the Declaration of Independence, announcing the colonies’ separation from Great Britain
You are welcome.
discussion comment
7 days ago
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^
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers."
:D
discussion comment
8 days ago
@ggofv
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
“No two people's life experiences are the same.. "
Like many have indicated, Vegas is a “tourist trap”, but since you are set on going remember:
I think your best bet is a high end casinos bar. You just have to look the part of upper middle class business man, and remember;
““People greet you according to the way you dress and say goodbay according to the way you behave"
Just make sure you and the girl are in the same page regarding services and make it clear exactly what you want and make sure she understands and is willing to do it at a price you both agree is a good mutual benefit transaction.
Listen to your gut feeling and don’t drink, you want to be completely clear minded and alert to any potential problems.
Alternatively you may try the legal brothels in Pahrump, less than an hour drive from Las Vegas, you can set up an appointment in their website and some offer free limousine service.
Whatever you decide to do, just be careful out there and listen to your spider sense.
And remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.
:D
discussion comment
11 days ago
@Nobodygtyu
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: hypothetically what would you do if there is disagreement on the amount to be paid, and she's hypothetically causing a scene claiming you LDK'd and owe her more money, and she's hypothetically called over the manager and bouncer...?
A: Not Hypothetically at all High End Gentlemen Club.
In an occasion the following situation happened to me with a new, to me, dancer, and this is how it unfolded.
After 3 dances I asked her to stop, because she was not performing to my standards, and I handed her the money for the 3 dances and she said we did 5, and I said no we did 3.
She insisted we did 5, I said no we did 3.
She then threatened to call the bouncer and I said go ahead, the bouncer came and took her side. I explained to him the situation and told them, it is not the money, it is the principle.
He asked that we all go to the lobby and once there he said to pay her for the 2 extra dances or I won’t be allowed to go back inside the club.
I immediately asked the guy at the cash register/entry to call the manager.
The manager came and he walked a couple of feet away from them so we could talk.
I explained to him the situation and said loud enough for the bouncer and the dancer to hear “Are we going to have to call the “Boys in Blue” to solve this situation?”
The bouncer immediately walked away and the dancer walked away after a second or two.
The manager said that it was OK for me to go back inside, “just don’t talk to them please.”
I said OK went inside and acted like nothing happened.
Mentioning the Boys in Blue helps oftentimes, because they most likely have warrants and would not want to risk being arrested.
That was not the last time I visited the club, And didn’t have any other issues.
You have to look the part of a business man that is not afraid to call the Boys in Blue, because you know they will be in your side, a mature respectable gentleman business man.
Let’s be careful out there.
:D
discussion comment
13 days ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
“I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said either,”
~ Donal J Trump.
~ June 2024
discussion comment
14 days ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
@wallanon
I tried the link and it gave me a something went wrong message and asked to try again…
So I tried again and it worked.
Please try again and let me know if it works…
discussion comment
15 days ago
@rickmacrodong
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: How hot are these Latinas
A: Beaty is in eyes of the beholder, not all people have the same opinions about what is hot or attractive.
Latina’ Stereotype come from racism and prejudice.
If you like a woman and can afford the services she offers, it is up to you, and nobody else, to decide if you want to buy what she is selling.
Just be careful out there so you don’t get buyers remorse.
discussion comment
20 days ago
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@founder
I will play along and answer your question.
Q: Do you even have sex?
A: Who doesn’t?”
I am lucky enough to live in the United States of America 🇺🇸 where all of the “relationships” with women are possible…
I would refer you to Demosthenes (384 – 12 October 322 BC)
~ Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.
1. We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure.
2. Concubines for the daily health of our bodies, and
3. Wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes
In this list is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.
In today’s world Demosthenes would say:
We have:
1. High end escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, Strippers (ITC OTC) etc that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/Concubines; etc, for the daily health of our bodies.
3. Trophy Girlfriends/Wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes.
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembots, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”.
5. Street walkers and 304s for when you are horny, drunk, high, depressed, bipolar or just plain stupid and crazy, poor and miserable and can’t afford anything else.
Historically It is the same all over the world…
I have thousands of Pics and Vids of My ATFs throughout the years…
Remember
“In this country, you gotta make the money first.
Then when you get the money, you get the power.
Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface (1983)
Let’s be careful out there there…
:D
discussion comment
23 days ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
If someone slanders you…
It means you are too prominent.
discussion comment
23 days ago
@BabyDoc
Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.
:D
Good Times, Good Times.
discussion comment
24 days ago
@BabyDoc
I will play along and comment on your discussion and answer your questions.
Q: Is This What Happens When You Get Old?
A: No, not necessarily age it just life.
Q: WTF kind of spell has she cast over me?
A: She provides you with something, a small part of your relationship, that gives you some “joy” in the middle of a relationship with a lot of behaviors that are mostly bad.
But because you are chasing that small part you get the whole package.
Q: How did she become my GF? Every time I think I’m out, she drags me back in.
A: I would say that she became your GF because something about her is ”familiar” to you in your life experience.
It’s because of that familiarity, m n and women tend to choose from the environment that which is familiar more than that which is good, but unfamiliar
If you really want to get out you have to find another GF that is not as “familiar” in your unconscious and conscious mind, but a better choice for your own body and mind.
Remember the proverb "one nail drives out another" means that a new idea, belief, or interest tends to replace an older one.
A new (hopefully better for you) GF will displace or supersede your current GF that now holds your attention or devotion.
The idea is that your mind and attention span is limited, and as new GF relationships come into play, they push aside or override the old GF
The proverb conveys the idea that, hopefully in your case, the new and novel tend to push out the old and familiar over time.
Let’s be careful out there.
And remember:
Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.
:D
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a month ago
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Basement dweller
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXAiBpIz2_I&pp=ygUpbWFrZSBsb3ZlIG5vdCB3YXJjcmFmdCBmdWxsIGVwaXNvZGUgamFyb2Q%3D
:D
discussion comment
a month ago
@Call.Me.Ishmael
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: When your ATF retires... what will you do?
A: It is going to depend on her availability and willingness for continuing “OTC” services, if she is only “retiring” from stripping.
If she is available and willing, and I am able and willing I would continue with the OTC “business relationship” as long as we both have a good mutual benefit business relationship that it is a “pleasure” to do business with each other.
If she is not interested, able, available or willing in continuing the OTC relationship I would wish her well and let her know that she should let me know if and when she is available, able and willing, and maybe we could get back in business.
“I am determined to be cheerful and happy in whatever situation I may find myself.
For I have learned that the greater part of our misery or unhappiness is determined not by our circumstance but by our disposition.”
~ Martha Washington
And Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.
Good luck with your ATF.
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nND0l1iZ-Cg&pp=ygUyVHJ1bXAgY2FsbHMgaGlzIHN1cHBvcnRlcnMg4oCYYmFzZW1lbnQgZHdlbGxlcnPigJk%3D
discussion comment
a month ago
@skybum609
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
“The money pigs of capitalist democracy: Money has made slaves of us.
Money is the curse of mankind.
It smothers the seed of everything great and good.
Every penny is sticky with sweat and blood.”
discussion comment
a month ago
Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
“Do justice and righteousness, and deliver from the hand of the oppressor him who has been robbed.
And do no wrong or violence to the resident alien, the fatherless, and the widow, nor shed innocent blood in this place.
... But if you will not obey these words, I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that this house shall become a desolation.”
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
^
My country, right or wrong;
if right, to be kept right;
and if wrong, to be set right.
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
“The money pigs of capitalist democracy: Money has made slaves of us.
Money is the curse of mankind.
It smothers the seed of everything great and good.
Every penny is sticky with sweat and blood.”
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
"We have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice.
The UNDENIABLE fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and poor peasants of any color and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor — both black and white, AND EVERY COLOR, here and abroad."
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
“Capitalism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”
Fixed That For You People
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
"Capitalism is a wonderful idea. It is only as a reality that it has been disastrous.
Among people of every race, color, and creed, all around the world, Capitalism has led to hunger in countries that used to have surplus food to export....
Nevertheless, for many of those who deal primarily in ideas, Capitalism remains an attractive idea -- in fact, seductive. Its every failure is explained away as due to the inadequacies of particular leaders."
~ Thomas Sowell
Fixed That For You People
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a month ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
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IT IS USUALLY FUTILE TO TRY TO TALK FACTS
TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ENJOYING
A SENSE OF MORAL SUPERIORITY
IN THEIR IGNORANCE AND DENIAL.
- Thomas Sowell