Comments by Trussell

Papi Chulo is right. There are a ton of strip clubs in Portland, but extras are pretty rare. I’ve tried and never gotten any. If you touch a little pussy or your zipper comes down, there is a bouncer threatening to kick you out within 30 seconds. And if you leave the few high quality clubs, they get pretty seedy/shady, with strung out chicks, pimps, and shootings. Portland has super lax rules when it comes to clubs, tons of two way touching, full nude with alcohol, live sex shows on stage. I would actually say lap dances in Portland are awesome, within the rules. But most draw the line at extras. Ive asked other girls for otc, mostly just asking to go out for dinner or something, and always been told they would never do that. Which is why I thought had a chance with this chick. Yes, I put her on a pedestal, but I’ve seen her mentioned in quite a few of the reviews of the club on this site, so I know I’m not alone. She’s got this pretty irrestible combination of personality, hot body, super cute, and skilled dancer. But I thinks she turning me into a PL. I fully admit my game is not strong. I’ve thought about just taking a trip to Reno and going to legal brothels nearby. I think trying to hook up With strippers or get p4p in Portland is just going to drain my wallet and fuck with my head, as it clearly already has. I even tricked myself into thinking I could date this chick. i should probably just do tinder, but maybe a little trip to get laid for sure would be good for me.

I assure you I’m not a troll, Im inexperienced, got sucked into liking a stripper and looked for advice and came across this site. Club is Casa Diablo in Portland. I know I’m being an idiot and need to forget about this girl, but there is something inside me that can’t stop. I think I’ve always had this dream of having porn star sex with a super hot chick at least once in my life and thought maybe I was going to pull it off with this chick. But now I’ve gotten into her and a little emotionally attached. Realizing I’m not someone who can separate sex from getting attached to someone. I’ve just been pretty lonely and horny recently and got more into strip clubs than I have before, plus have some money to spend at this point in life. Honestly, should probably take long break from clubs and get my head straight. Think they fucked with my head and made it hard for me to separate fantasy world from real life. Yeah, she is probably out of my league, I’m not some big baller that can throw down for penthouse suites and trips. And that’s actually kind of a hard thing to realize, wish I was.

I can afford it once, but I suspect that once could turn into return trips and then I’d start getting into poor financial decisions.

Yes same girl. I heard from others that only a few girls from this club will do as it is pretty forbidden and that $2k-$3k is pretty standard. I mean, a 1/2 hour full nude vip dance is $500 at this club, so I don’t think this is out of the realm of reality.

Ok, I’m a moron. Her latest post was “her room for the night”, some master suite in a swanky hotel. Obviously banging some dude for money. Not gonna lie, it stung a little bit when it hit me, and I realized I definitely had become an RIL. Oh well, lesson learned. I suppose that means I could bang her if I want to throw down some money, but I’ve heard from regulars of that club that the chicks who will do p4p charge about $3k and expect a luxury experience. Not sure I’m that desperate.

I certainly don’t regret any money or time I’ve spent with her so far. I’ve gotten plenty of champagne room dances from different women and she has been the best and hottest so far. Just based on the lap dances, her athletic ability and flexibility it is totally clear sex with her would be amazing. And I’ve agreed with most of what @rickdugar has said so far, except for the last comments. I’ve had pretty long personal discussions with her over dinner and she shared pretty personal info about her past and her situation with the baby daddy and custody situation. I realize there is a lot I don’t know about her and she could be lying about stuff. But we’ve had pretty genuine conversations and I can usually tell when someone is bullshitting me. Could she have boyfriend? Sure. Is she hooking up with other guys? Probably. Is she accepting money for sex? I’m not sure on that one. She shares a ton of shit on her Instagram of her daily life and I’ve seen no signs of a regular boyfriend. Not that he doesn’t exist, but I really dont think she is in any commited kind of relationship. Unlike most strippers, she seems to mesh her regular life with her stripper life. I agree that strip clubs and certain dancers can be addicting. I’ve spent more than I probably should, but nothing I can’t afford. I know I have to be careful about getting attached or expecting anything beyond some fantasy, but I think I’m ok with occasionally taking her to dinner and getting lap dances if this whole hookup thing doesn’t pan out, the dances are awesome and taking her out before hand makes them even better. I did change my narrative and get more aggressive with pursuing what I want from her, but I’ve gotten honest that this is part of a hustle and it’s probably not going further than what it has so far.

And rickdugan is right about one thing, I can tell she’s into wild sex with choking, spanking, etc., which is part of what really draws me to her, never been with a chick like that. I get the feeling she doesn’t really know how to have a relationship with a guy that is based on anything besides sex.

Appreciate all the comments, mostly confirmed what I already knew deep down. Looking more at her social media, I realize this gal has a pretty brilliant hustle going on. She sucks in these kind of lonely, horny guys, many of them stoners. I quit smoking weed a long time ago, but I’ve been super busy with work and haven’t had relations with a woman in awhile, so I’d fall into the lonely/horny guy. She offers kind of a girlfriend experience with the dates, but they are for regulars who buy $250-500 1/2 hour vip dances from her. She also gets the whole white knight thing going by posting photos of her son so guys think they are helping support a single mom. She been in the strip game for awhile, she knows the game well. Got a smoking body and maybe best butt I’ve ever seen and knows how to gets guys hooked on it. I’m guessing she’s got a lot of guys buying her gifts and giving her money. Honestly, I respect her hustle. Seems a little dangerous, but I’m sure it makes her a lot of money. She does seem pretty horny and likes male attention, I think I could probably get some sexual benefits if I kept this up for awhile. But would probably involve dropping several thousand over a period of time and building up rapport. And may never happen. Not sure I want to be that guy, and really not even sure I really want to pay for sex, something I’ve never done. No disrespect to those who do, I get it. I did send her pretty forward text kind of using suggestions from here about what I’m looking for, haven’t heard back yet. I do think I kind of got a little emotionally attached, and even if dating were a possibility, seems like she’s probably a total headache/mind trip. Be fun for awhile, but probably suck a lot of money out and fuck head up. Probably wise to drop it and move on. If anything happens, I’ll probably update here, but I’m guessing she’ll either just keep trying to pull same hustle or move on to other guys. I do think strip clubs are best if you just go to have fun and not expect anything to happen outside of club. An interesting experience regardless, definitely learning shit about myself and women. And the need to sharpen my game and focus.

Her son is on there, lots of random regular posts.

I’ve connected with her on social media and based om conversations pretty confident she doesn’t currently have a SO. Some of the stuff she’s said and done made me think she was down to keep hanging out outside of club and I’ve certainly made comments about wanting to eat her pussy and shit like that and she seemed interested. I was in Portland but just moved a couple hours away and she’s talked about visiting and has kept texting me even though I’m not in area. She has kid, though, and I can tell she’s probably a little bit of head case. She’s also been in strip club scene for awhile and pretty tied into it, not really sure I want to get to into that dark world. Does seem like an expert in reading guys and knowing what they want. She obviously likes me buying dinner for her and lap dances, but hasn’t hit me up for money or anything like that, doesn’t seem desperate for money. I’m totally aware other dudes are hitting on her and probably doing same thing I am. I do tend to get fixated on one girl and can get persistent, but sometimes it pays off. She’s clearly my all time favorite at this point, so I suppose I could just look at as cool chick to get lap dances from and hang out with some times and maybe some day actually pull off getting laid. But not totally sure that’s healthy, could see myself getting weird emotional attachment based on lust. I appreciate the feedback.

Yeah I should probably drop this shit and hit up tinder. But god dammit, her booty is amazing and her skin is like satin. Maybe one more attempt at dinner and ask her to go to hotel room.

@rickdugan appreciate the real talk @pauldrake 35 and 26

Thanks for the input. Honestly, the rational part of me knows I’m being hustled, but I sort of don’t care. The lap dances are by far the best ive ever had. I have dated girls that were equally good looking, but none that were sexual firecrackers like her. I can tell the sex would be the best of my life, so I’m kind of down to continue for awhile on the outside chance it could happen. She’s definitely triggered some sort ofnlustful desire I didn’t know I had. She seems pretty horny, but she also seems pretty pro at building rapport and getting regulars. And it’s sort of enjoyable to go on dates where there is zero pressure. This is in Portland where girls have been busted by undercover dudes for offering sex for money, so I had wondered if she was getting to know me before offering. I’m hesitant to ask as it would kill the slim possibility of hooking up for free. She does keep texting me, but probably just to keep me interested. I’ve just never had strippers actually go on dates outside of club or give out real phone numbers before, which gave me foolish hope.