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5 years ago
Just to elaborate a little more, I think you can definitely communicate to a dancer that you are not interested without hurting her feelings or making things awkward for yourself. Gentle honesty works well. After all, she should be focusing her attention on someone who IS Interested in her so she can sell a dance.
If she really can't take a hint excuse yourself to the restroom or go sit stage side if you are not too concerned with giving up your spot. Be brave! Trust me, there are other dancers there that would like to take a stab at you. (Or should I say vice versa. LOL)
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5 years ago
Coming from a dancer... I'm experienced so I can tell within 60 seconds or so if a customer is intrested in me or not. Are you too polite? Were you giving her signals that you were just not interested in her?
Next time try telling her that you don't have any money or that you are definitely not buying any dances that day. Or perhaps tell her you had a long day and, not to be rude, you just want to be alone. Hopefully she'll get the hint.
I can't tell you how many times a dancer has held a customer hostage who I could tell was not interested in her. Meanwhile he's making eyes at me and I myself become irritated.
Good luck!
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5 years ago
Glad you had a ball with Kairo. She's a gem!
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5 years ago
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@papichulo As you can imagine there are slow nights and busier nights. Even the most experienced dancers have slow nights where they may only sell a few dances. On a busy night where there is a lot of action almost all of the private rooms will be filled and the club is booming.
Attendance is definitely down overall and I think that is also due to the change from IC to employee. While the club used to offer a plethora of dancers for your consideration, now they have to be more mindful of the amount of girls they keep in house on any given night. Before if they had an additional 10 or 15 dancers who might have provided great stage entertainment but perhaps did not sell many dances it wasn't that big of an issue as we formally just paid the house a percentage off of all dances sold. I imagine it's a delicate dance to offer you all as many entertainers as possible while still covering their overhead and remaining a profitable business.
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5 years ago
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Happy to lend more clarity here guys.
First $150 does not go straight to our check.
We are paid SF minimum wage with taxes withheld. Additionally, all taxes that are owed from tips claimed are withheld from our check. If you have a lot of dances sold via Broadway bucks AKA " vu bucks" then you can expect your paycheck to suffer. My last pay check for the 2 week pay period was $0.00. This means that the taxes that I owed for that specific pay period based on the tips that I claimed (and Broadway bucks sold) were greater than the net of my 2 week pay check.
Us dancers are not in this business for a pay check. We would *much* prefer the old way of being an independent contractor. The company would prefer that too!
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5 years ago
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Also failed to mention that there is HUGE pressure on the dancers to sell dances. Don't sell dances, you will likely lose your job. This puts some dancers in a position to often sell the dances at the exact posted price whether they're making a decent amount of money off the dance or not simply to alleviate the pressure from the house.
Lots of dancers don't seem to mind if the club is making more money off the dance then they are. They rely heavily on tips and stage $$. Others (such as myself) ask for what they want in the beginning straight away so when the money negotiation is out of the way there is no more mention of money. Being that I am a experienced dancer I know that most men prefer it this way vs the bait and switch game that often occurs when the dancer is not satisfied with the money she has been given at the start of the show.
Anyhow, hope I was able to offer some clarity here. :)
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5 years ago
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Current club take @ GOE:
First $150 - 100%. Then 60% thereafter up to $400 in dancers sold. 40% thereafter for ALL dances sold.
30 minute VIP = additional $60 room fee
1 hr VIP = additional $120 room fee
Do the math. It's almost all of the listed price.
Most premium dancers will NOT do the VIP @ the posted price. You're right, @tahoecruz, dancer #2s take from that 30 min VIP dance was criminally low but that is her personal business.
Kind, honest, and ethical dancers will be upfront with the patron before the dance stating exactly what they want and what they are willing to give in return. If the patron is happy to pay that then both parties enjoy the experience and are satisfied! I respect a PL getting the best deal that he can! That said, hopefully a PL will respect the dancer not wanting the club to make more money off of her dance than she does.
TFP, you're awesome. Nothing but love for you. Great, spot on review which was a pleasure to read, as always.
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5 years ago
Kind of love that you mentioned Wham. Awesome.