Comments by lick-that (page 13)

@PPWH Too funny. Mine- 3kids 2 baby daddies 1 misdemeanor 0 $$. The perfect countdown. Top that

Ok yeah. She used to work Irvington and Pat. Good on the pole. Need to hook back up. PM me any info. Got a stable can recip lol.

Hey Bro, I've been meaning to check this spot out. Also had a fav named Honey haven't seen in a while. Light skin, tall, slim?

I heard it.was for unpaid violations

You know what I meant. Chill

You're right. But everything is an hour plus away, so sometimes you just have to bite it. Agreed though, On the coasts is where its at.

Idk bro, from experience I know when there's a strict no-touch rule U don't usually get much more In LD/VIP/C Rooms. If U can stand the loss up to U to take the risk.

Part 2 Correction: Dances are $30 upfront, girl gets her share end of the night..25 I hear. Tips are btwn U 2. Level of service varies by dancer and how comfy she is with U. Place changes with shift change, from local bar to urban but all types of cuts, but dancers def more urban at night. Good contact on the.floor so the trip up to LD room can be saved for serious business.

Oh Man Papi is F**king hilarious

Yes Papi. Same old Champagne Room/Paradizos. Current name by the sign out front is Paradizos. More run down than ever with very little eye candy to be seen. Purely transactional there. Vics at least has a semblance of a Strip Club with actual dancing.

Thanks for the response. How is it at Sunrise and what is the mix of girls there? I've driven by there and seen the parking garage, what is that like? Action ITC or OTC? Lap dance and VIP damage? Interested in Hi Beams too, I see a lot of them on Instagram, anyone with first hand info there holla. Want to check it out. Irv and Newark bars are getting lame, same old same old..

Ive been Meaning to check out Paterson for some time. Have only been to a couple joints up there but keep hearing about it. Cabaret doesn't sound like my kinda place, never liked that straight up atmosphere. Any Intel on a few other Paterson bars would be helpful. Sunrise, Doctors Cave, Hi Beams. Heard their club vibe is good but also extras are to be had. I hate going somewhere not knowing the low down beforehand. Prices and info are appreciated.

Well there's the rub, separating the clubs with the dancers. Many if not most dancers over the course of a few years pass through the breadth of the SC scene though many will not admit it, SW comes to mind. Even those who work primarily at higher end clubs will spend time at mid tier and dives at some point. The turnover is too high to only work on one level all the time. Also when the need is there most are not above working those places for events or industry parties, they all know music release parties a lot of $$ gets thrown around. As to OTC, that's where the rationalizing comes in. She may not be actually tricking, in her mind, its someone she's known for some time and hung out with, so it doesn't count. There are many scenarios to this, the game is finding out which works with a particular girl. She might not want straight cash, but a bill paid or similar. You are right about the girl who isn't good in the club getting propositioned, doesn't make sense to us, but hags and fuglies get cat-called everyday so that doesn't stop guys from chasing them. I've seen dancers who I wouldn't give the time, rack up in the club and be tied up all night so go figure.

You're right, it is more prevalent today, bc of a diff breed of dancer and clientele, but OTC has always been a big part of the SC scene. Perhaps you were not aware of it or noticed it much before, we would be surprised at things that go on below our noses when we're not looking for them. There are a lot of customers who just go for the bar or to have fun with the ladies who may not be aware of what else is on offer. I agree with you that the club scene has shifted in that direction greatly in the last decade. I wouldn't try to ascertain a cause. Also agree about the "clean" clubs and why people patronize them. Diff clientele, inexperienced clubbers, who knows? Thing I do know about them is that though ITC might not be available there in large part, OTC def is! Went to one such high end club on a biz trip in Tampa, had cameras in the rooms and all, but I left with a # and a proposition for later. Even in Manhattan have had that experience.

I was intending to write a lengthy rebuttal but I think keeping close to the point is better. OP: I think you are way over-thinking this whole topic. Firstly, trying to analyze the psyche of Strippers/dancers/whores/women in general is beyond the capacity of all of us here put together. But more to the topic, unless you have close interactions and friendships with dancers beyond their job I don't think most people can comment on what they do and how they rationalize it. Also don't take on board much of what dancers tell you in the club as we all know. The same girl who tells you no she doesn't OTC for $X, will do it with another guy for $X-, whom she for whatever reason would rather OTC. I'm sure I'm not the only one here that can recount instances of leaving with/meeting a girl who was solicited for way more than what we were paying. As to the word Whore, that can be thrown around as freely as you wish, our politicians are the biggest whores around by any measure. Someone above said we all rationalize, which is the only way we could function in society. Btw, those who have been at it long enough know, as was said above, money was flowing through the clubs and the economy as a whole much more than it is now. I knew some actual student dancers back then, but still, they mostly ended up putting out for $$ even so. You can't quantify the incentives in the equation anymore than you can figure out the psyche of dancers or women in general. If you could, how would most guys in society get laid or procreate? There is little incentive for women to associate or sleep with the lower percentile males of the population, by whatever measure, yet still many hot strippers/women do..