Comments by etsutwigg222 (page 35)

It is still open. Saw a couple of hot 30 somethings go in on Wednesday. Started to go over myself but the little head was in a hurry with a fav waiting inside club.

Yes, Mustang is a legend here in PHX. She has been a top performer throughout the valley and still is. Issue is she has a strong following, so gets tied up quite often.

I treat those signs like suggestions until it is enforced, then I never see it again becasuse I never return!!!

Found it. Thanks. July 19.

Mark94, When was the thread posted??? I do not see it in the last 75 discussions. Thanks.

LOL!!! Must have been my subconscious thinking about one of the floor guys at Hi-Liter being such a sick sometimes!!!

Yep....I never go there and I am by that club at least 10 times a month. You got screwed and not in a good way. Never open a tab at a club.

Hiliter is where most CF dancers landed.

This is not a 100% rule, but if the dancer is a Centerfolds transfer and has a vague VIP quote, then probably best to have lower performance expectations in VIP. There are a few exceptions, but those diamonds require some careful prospecting. Within one VIP song, you should be 95% sure of what is up. So total loss should be $25. Those that push for more afterwards, then that is up to you. Tips generally are not enforced by floor personnel, just dance count.

Been said many times on hear, but I will repeat......This is the ultimate "clip joint" in the Phoenix area. As said above, your pockets will be empty and the promises unfulfilled!!! Any other info is not a YMMV, BUT A CLUB/DANCER AD.

Actually, I heard from two dancers there that she is taken by some dude. That is why she quit originally. If she is back part time, then bills must need to he paid!!!!

Excellent review RH and welcum back. I agree that HL is still the top club in PHX for value and consistently lovely ladies. Not a bad thing that the floor activity has toned down some allowing for nice VIP opportunities. Biggest difference I have found is with influx of dancers from other clubs and retirement of a few of the dependable providers, you must choose wisely!!

Nice review, just a small update to what she told you. Desert Flame is actually a dump in Apache Junction which is easy of Phoenix.

GREAT review of the new layout. I was there on Friday 06-23 and counted 24 dancers at 130. Probably because I was told that earlier in the week it was dead. Anyway, as described this is more of a VIP club now than a floor dance club, at least during the day. If your not on the wall or each side of the stage, it is sardine time .

I was there for exactly 20 minutes on Saturday. I chose to walk out with all but $8 of my funds. You are accurate in your assessment of the talent. Sad to say, weekday nights are not much better. Guess the summer slide had hit. Only gonna get worse for the next 2 to 3 months. At least I am traveling now, so I can hit other parts of the country.

Just wondering.......Why VIP dances if floor talent was bad? Why pay bouncer/manager anything not owed if you are not coming back anyway? Most they can legally do is ban you from a club your not returning to. With their license still under review and the happening at Centerfolds, I think owners don't want an issue with assaulting a customer to hit headlines. I would have asked them to call the police to help with the non-payment issue.

Great to hear Mya is back. She is a dependable dancer there. Did you notice if she went back during your stay or just stage danced??

Excellent review.

The legend strikes again......welcome back Scrub!!!! It is great when the gal is watching for you and just falls into your lap. Excellent precise review......And yes we all know what you mean!!!

Probably no A team on Saturday during days. More than likely it will be the old Centerfolds crew with a few HL mixed in.

Good, accurate details of the issue. Yes other clubs can absorb the girls and customers, but now we will have to wade through the bad providers from Centerfolds now. Plus with Centerfolds out of the picture, we should be concerned a brighter light will be focused on HL now. It appears they are still at the top of the list and that these mini raids are going to be in the near future. All of the above is sure to increase with summer hitting the valley and business being naturally on the decline. Hopefully they get through the summer unscathed and back to business for the tourist (money making) season without losing too many of the dependable entertainment providers.

Good informative review. Yes it appears both summer and time is changing the clubbing here in AZ. Great providers are moving on and we are left to train the newbies and ROBs.

Hiring practices must have changed since my last visit a month ago because I did not find a club full of hottest. I went on Friday night and again during day on Saturday. They still have the 3 fir 30 specials plus girls still do them without an announcement. If this isn't a club ad, then it is an unusual night.

I have noticed man of the old regulars have changed shifts and days. PM me with your fav and I will let you know if she is one of the ones I heard have changed.

A total newbie to the PHX area ripoff club. That is why very few knowledgeable locals go to it. STAY AWAY.....Better off going across the freeway to one of the casinos!!!