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I have recently visited and reviewed three strip clubs in Maine: Platinum Plus, Diconzo's, and Steppin' Out. Platinum Plus is a major commercial venue but is very nearly all air. There's no contact for the private dances. You can sometimes negotiate touching with a particular dancer in the Champagne Room, but you're paying $400-600 total (room and companion) for that privilege and it will usually be limited touching. The "dorm mom" hangs around outside the cubicles and walks in occasionally, so nothing very intense is practical. On the other hand, the two other venues I mentioned above use dancers provided by an outfit called Bodies in Motion (BIM). BIM has a fairly liberal touching policy that includes breasts and nipples but not pussy and within those guidelines, touching is fully encouraged. Steppin' Out is the nicer of the two BIM venues. Lap dances are $2 minimum and floor dances $5-10 before the G-straps come off and $10-20 after. Some of the girls flash a lot of pussy for viewing, though not touching. Steppin' Out is one helluva lot more fun than Platinum Plus with a lot of contact at reasonable prices.

Thanks, guys, for the insights. I still have a lot to learn. My total number of strip club visits is just seven so far. The club located closest to me is a low mileage, high priced facility where you could pay $500 for the Champagne Room and end up with nothing but air dances, so I'm not convinced that just going with the flow will work around here. I got what I wanted one time by negotiating it in advance. The hottest girls here seem to have the most stringent limits, but my sample is small. Personally, I'm more interested in touching the dancer than vice versa, since one is a unique opportunity while the other can be accomplished in various ways. I was just curious as to whether my priorities were atypical.

Are all of you patrons only or are some of the folks who post here club owners, managers, bouncers, or other employees? The advice about going with the flow and giving up on control sounds like it comes more from a management perspective than a patron perspective. I have an aversion to paying a lot and getting nothing or very little in return. A few weeks ago, I tried to arrange some private time with my favorite dancer in the local club. She is a small, tight-framed blond with the build of an Olympic gymnast (female, that is), an adorable face, and a sparkling personality to boot. We were already on speaking terms, so I told her I was looking for a full touch arrangement – me touching her. In this particular club, it's pretty much out of the realm of possibility for a guy to get off anyway, unless you go OTC. The private rooms are anything but private. They are merely high-backed booths. Moreover, the equivalent of the dorm mother prowls about outside. The official rules of the club are no touching whatsoever, even in the highly expensive private rooms and the monitor comes in to remind you if she sees any significant contact. Such circumstances just wouldn't work for me no matter how valiant the gal's effort. The lovely dancer's response was that she'd have to get $1000 for that but for $500 I could touch her except for her pussy and asshole. I've forgotten what she said about breasts at the $500 level. I said I could pay her $500, but it would have to be full touch privileges. She then declared that it was against her principles and gave me the song and dance about saving something for the guy at home. I was tempted to remind her that it had not been against her "principles" at $1000, but only at $500, but I decided to forgo the point in the hopes that something might develop with her later. Keep in mind that in offering her $500, I would have been incurring a total cost over $700 because this club collects $220 minimum just for use of the booth for an hour. Some of you may now have doubts about my sanity, offering that much for touch privileges only, but this particular gal was so hot by my particular tastes that I know I would have regretted not offering that much for the rest of my life. A thousand, however, was out of my price range, especially since the room monitor might have prevented me from getting my money's worth. I especially appreciate the advice that one of you offered about avoiding signs of emotional involvement. I think that my tendency is to want emotional involvement and to show that desire. In an ideal world, I'd like to have emotional involvement with the dancer to the point of warmth and perhaps, given time, friendship. I'm not looking to fall in love with the girl, however. I can see now that any such overtures of emotional attachment, even at the stage of friendship, could be problematic for the gal. One club that I go to offers only lap dances and floor dances, so the most consecutive time you can purchase with one of the dancers is two songs, which is precious little time to make any kind of personal connection. Then she moves on immediately to other patrons. I'm particularly fond of one of the dancers and was thinking about asking her if she'd like to go out to an excellent restaurant on one of her nights off. I'd not only pay for her dinner and drinks, but her time as well, if the price was reasonable, and all I'd ask for was conversation. I'd love to get a better idea of what she's truly like as a person. Then, later, when we were back at the club, I'd enjoy touching her all the more. Would a restaurant offer of that type be crazy? What do you think?

FONDL, no, I haven't yet tried any clubs in Canada. I'm close enough to Quebec to make that a possibility but not Montreal. I'll do some research to see what might be available in Quebec.

You guys have been very helpful and I want you to know I appreciate your input. I'm paying attention to and mulling over the various pearls of wisdom you've provided, collectively. Visiting strip clubs is a new hobby for me. I've been at it for only a month. I have pretty decent interpersonal skills, but they are better adapted to some environments and circumstances than others. I've had the experience of being well-liked and even popular at times and not well liked at other times. As Popeye would say, "I yam what I yam." Whether my personal style will prove effective within the strip club culture remains to be seen. So far, I've found my strip club experiences both exhilarating and frustrating. One always wants more. I have two different home states and have yet to explore the world of strip clubs in one of the two. Judging from the listings and reviews at this website, I anticipate a wide variety of options there. It's not especially important whether one dancer or even one club's entire corps of dancers decides I'm a pathetic loser, provided I'm able ultimately to find at least one pleasant club where I fit in nicely and can get the kind of interactions I desire. I like to take a few interpersonal risks now and then, hoping for the best, rather than just playing it safe. I don't really have in mind establishing a dating relationship with the dancer that I mentioned in the last post. I was thinking more in terms of a one-time, lets-get-to-know-one-another occasion that would serve to add another level of enjoyment to the pay-for-touching relationship that we now have. Like another poster stated, my ultimate desire in relating with any stripper or dancer who appeals to me is the highest degree of genuine intimacy that she will allow. I don't count bases but I do care about how much real contact is established, physical and emotional.