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Stock Market Hits a High. Stocks Love Donald Trump

Printing Money. Trump Knows What He is Doing.

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ilbbaicnl

Nothing can stop the boom, as long as LLMs haven't been over-hyped, and data centers can run on cheap electricity from non-renewables. What could go wrong?

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caseyx

We've simply recovered from the March dip due to investors being spooked by the war. Steady growth when you look at the longer trend. Trump brings enough chaos that we should expect downward spikes like last month or the tariff drop from a year ago.

Finance!

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fatdan99

Where else are you going to put the money? Bonds?? Have you read about Kevin Warsh and his new Fed-Treasury accord to use the Fed to finance US fiscal spending? I mean, when you collect $2.5 trillion but spend $3.65 I guess you got to do something. Plus as the US is by far the number 1 oil producer in the world, high oil prices are good for Wall Street.

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rickthehick

@caseyx are you saying the chaos is a good thing just because theres a history or pattern of it…

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caseyx

@rickthehick the chaos can be a good thing, when it shakes up the status quo for the better. Sometimes it can be a negative thing when the results are poor. Chaos isn't a good thing for its own sake. My point is that Trump doesn't follow the "rules" of the establishment, which means he creates a lot of uncertainty to the markets.

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Pussylicker2

I've been a fan of Trump's since way before he got in politics. He's been saying the same things for at least 30 years. We're getting ripped off on trade, we should put America first, etc. Trump has a profound understanding of world power dynamics. It really is mind-boggling what he accomplished in Iran in so little time time, making the world safe.

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wallanon

"Trump has a profound understanding of world power dynamics."

The president of the United States went on television and unironically threatened the existence of another nation. People with a profound understanding of world power dynamics wondered what would happen if the world had called his bluff. Even if there was already an unnaounced offramp via Pakistan and it was just political theater, words matter. The POTUS isn't just some random shit posting asshole, he's the shit posting asshole in chief.

"It really is mind-boggling what he accomplished in Iran in so little time time, making the world safe."

Mind-boggling aside, it's called accommodation by the great nations and hoping for the best. Roughly 100 years ago another country tried the same playbook. It ended very badly. Actually Russia attempted it a decade ago, and it seemed to go ok for them until Ukraine punched them in the face (with the backing of a lot more countries than Russia expected). "Peace through strength" rang hollow from the moment it was uttered. Does this look peace to you?

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dustyj

tiktok.com Trump lied. The straight of Hormuz is still closed. He said that to once again manipulate the stock market.

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dustyj

Strait of Hormuz

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ThePuddyTat

I am still against this war but the amount of Trump Derangement Syndrome here is incredible!

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wallanon

"I am still against this war but the amount of Trump Derangement Syndrome here is incredible!"

Examples are welcome. You've typed pages and pages already.

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dustyj

Please explain Trump's good qualities. He's a lying child rapist who shows repeatedly that he cares about nobody but himself. He's a narcissist who is also incredibly evil and incapable of having empathy or caring at all about anyone but himself. He's also incredibly stupid. He can't spell or pronounce words correctly and he's too lazy to read the daily briefings. Also everyone he hires is completely incompetent. The only qualification is that they are loyal to Trump. That's why you have morons quoting lines from Pulp Fiction as Bible verses. It's just embarrassing.

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TheOne&Only

The OPs misleading title is factually false. Except for the pandemic shutdown and payments - policy passed by the democrat party congress- Obama and Biden are the two president's who ran up inflation and destroyed our individual and national wealth through Quantitative Easing ie printing more money. The more dollars in circulation, the higher the GDP, the more dollars it takes to buy individual stocks and increase stock "valuation." However, each dollar has less value, can buy fewer goods, pay fewer hours of labor, or less cushion to your savings account. This is why Obama's economy was so anemic and pathetically weak. They wanted us to believe that growth of 1%-2% was the new normal. Trump 45 proved that was a lie. They did not try to spin or coverup Biden's crazy inflation, they straight-up lied to the media and enlisted them to gaslight the American citizen.

Everytime a libtard laments the Trump presidency, just remind them they tied to cut Kamala from Biden's ticket before making her the candidate. They cannot deny it. They have no excuse, They'll never admit, but they know how fucking stupid they are.

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ThePuddyTat

"He's a lying child rapist" Unsubstantiated. For all the left says the war was started to distract from Epstein, the last Epstein news was that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for hitting on an underage staffer, and known Epstein Island aficionado Bill Clinton had no recollection of Trump engaging in any untoward activities.

"who shows repeatedly that he cares about nobody but himself. He's a narcissist" Show me a high level politician who isn't and I'll show you a man with twenty fingers.

"who is also incredibly evil and incapable of having empathy or caring at all about anyone but himself." That's your opinion, and again, show me a politician who isn't.

"He's also incredibly stupid." Do you have a comparable education to him? (UPenn)

"He can't spell or pronounce words correctly" But you never criticized Harris for this, who not only says bizarre things but has an alcohol problem.

"and he's too lazy to read the daily briefings." Yet he's been a pretty good foreign policy president. Even this war might be working out. Biden's own NSA Jake Sullivan said he gave us the quietest Middle East in 20 years.

"Also everyone he hires is completely incompetent. The only qualification is that they are loyal to Trump." If you were president, would you want someone who undermined you? Hegseth is actually meeting recruiting goals. We don't have thousands pouring over the border.

"That's why you have morons quoting lines from Pulp Fiction as Bible verses." I didn't vote for a Bible scholar.

"It's just embarrassing." A lot of opinions and no facts. You're still the one that said Harris would get 400 EVs because of abortion and porn and strip clubs would be outlawed, so forgive me if I'm not giving your opinions with much credence.

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ThePuddyTat

As for Trump's good qualities, yeah, he's an asshole. That's part of his marketing scheme. I know people who met him who said he was warm and personable in person, but his shtick isn't that. He's not an intellectual but he was smart enough to get elected president twice.

The main thing I like about him, is that he doesn't just roll over for the left. He's the bulwark against the mob, and that's enough for me. We still have the Bill of Rights, when the last guy wanted to outlaw "disinformation" defined as anything inconvenient for the regime, attacked the second amendment as every opportunity, opened the border and shuttled illegals around to goose the census, invited gender benders to flap their tits on the White House lawn, and used the IRS and DOJ to go after political opponents. A columnist said, and I think it's a slight reach, but if not for Trump, we'd have as much freedom of speech as the UK, which is releasing violent criminals to make room for people who made counter-regime social media posts.

For all the left screeches about a "danger to democracy," democracy is in better shape than it was on January 20, 2021. Just because your guy lost doesn't mean democracy was in danger. I didn't agree with much of Biden, but I wasn't screaming like a little bitch about everything he did.

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dustyj

Perhaps you could talk to the numerous women who have come forward and said that Trump raped them as children and then threatened to kill both them and their families if they talked. Is it possible to be a decent human being when you've done this to numerous people? No. So if you spoke to 80 different women who all said the same things about Trump's sexual assaults and death threats would you stop supporting him? No. It doesn't matter what he's done or is capable of you would still support him anyway. Guess it's derangement if we don't support a despicable human being.

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wallanon

"A lot of opinions and no facts..."

Thanks for posting the examples. Those look they came from other threads. When I saw "here" that seemed like maybe it was this thread. And no worries even if it was. I was just curious about what you meant.

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ilbbaicnl

US Treasury inflation protected bond mutual funds are good for IRA/401K savings. If capital preservation/stability matter more to you than growth.

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ThePuddyTat

You've already assumed Trump is guilty, no matter how flimsy or inconsistent the accusation. Not even a chance to defend himself in a court of law. And all this happened decades ago. Meanwhile, Eric Swalwell gets taken down and resigns in less than a week with credible information.

Is it possible Trump raped girls? Sure. Prove it in a court of law. But when you've had 10 years (in public office only) to take someone down and can't, color me skeptical.

Derangement isn't a mere dislike of Trump, it's inability to think rationally as regards him. Perhaps you need to take up a different hobby than politics, this clearly isn't doing your psyche much good. Perhaps golf? Bird watching?

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dustyj

Perhaps you need to take up a different hobby. Clearly your judgement is off. No matter how many times Trump tells ridiculously obvious lies to your face it doesn't matter. Remember when Trump said he would put out his health care plan in 2 weeks which he repeated over and over for months and years. Did he ever put out a health care plan? No. He lied. He obviously never had one. Yet we're supposed to take such an obvious liar seriously. Coming from the guy who used to spend 50 hours a week on a strip club site giving advice on hobbies.

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ThePuddyTat

^ Show me a politician who never lies and I'll show you another man with 20 fingers.

Clearly you can't address your Harris 400 EVs, or illegal porn and strip clubs comment. But that's the leftist MO. Be wrong and then hope everyone forgets. Your predictions are shit, your lies are obvious, and you actually threatened to beat someone up over an internet disagreement. I'd want everyone to forget I did any of that too!

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dustyj

In other words Trump is a blatantly obvious liar and you still stupidly support him anyway.

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ThePuddyTat

^ I smartly support him because the alternative is anarchy.

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dustyj

Yeah right. Do you think we'd be in this war if Kamala was president? Of course not. So is everyone just going to ignore the fact that Trump said that the Strait of Hormuz was open yesterday and everything was all good there and it obviously wasn't. His word sure is golden isn't it?

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ThePuddyTat

^ I think Kamala, like Obama and Biden, would lavish Iran with gifts. They'd be in the nuclear club and she would be shitfaced drunk on the phone with Khameini. We'd also have a stock market crash from her unrealized capital gains tax and dried up investment due to her wealth tax. Freedom of speech would also be circumscribed to anything that doesn't paint Democrats in a bad light.

The Strait of Hormuz was opened, then closed. Look, I agree with you that this Iran war was reckless. I took a sizable chunk out of the stock market a week and a half ago. But we've got a long ass way to fall before I think Harris would be a better president, and we're not even getting to "culture war" issues.

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ilbbaicnl

It's a mixed bag how solid the sexual assault allegations against Trump are: en.wikipedia.org .

The Iranians did open the Straight for a short time, apparently under the assumption that the US naval blockade was suspended as a part of the ceasefire.

Biden and Harris only maintained a pretense of not being "in this war". Pretty much all the weapons and munitions were already provided by the US, but, to maintain the pretense, only fired by Israeli hands. Maybe it's true that Netanyahu and Trump escalated too much and too quickly. But, before 10/7/23, Netanyahu made the opposite mistake, by waiting till Hamas escalated, with Iranian support.

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ilbbaicnl
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Reachme

Got to love the flame wars and all my trolls lol.

Regardless of what we think of Trump, it’s fair to say the guy is a hard worker. My view is this. He is up there in age and, as such very much concerned with legacy.

Now, we’re not in the room, and don’t get to hear and see how the sausage of governing is made. Let’s not pretend that we know shit. What I do see is a guy who will do live press conferences. He has his guys around to answer questions… on live TV. No press releases, no spokespersons. Secretaries of departments, direct response. I watched a few and drew my own conclusions. —> I’m giving them a ton of room to work stuff out.

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ilbbaicnl

Trump spends a lot of time attention whoring because he's an attention whore. I guess technically you could count that as hard work. Little Marco is the only one who's said something that at least sounds like it makes sense about this military campaign. That a preemptive strike was needed, otherwise Iran would amass a stockpile of missiles to attack Israel with, that could overwhelm the interceptors. Unfortunately, we never know when politicians are bending the truth, or straight up lying.

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SleazyPerv

I am getting richer! Thank you Donald Trump!

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Hank Moody

If you look at the Dow for the last 100 years, other than the Great Depression and maybe a relatively flat time from 1966-76, the stock market has hit a high under every President. Cheers to you, little buddy.

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mogul1985

@dustyj "Perhaps you could talk to the numerous women who have come forward and said that Trump raped them as children and then threatened to kill both them and their families if they talked."

And all these people come forward decades later when Trump is POTUS 2x, with zero proof. Same was done to SCJ Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing and to learn all the "honest women" were lying. And Swalwell had the nerve to hammer on Kavanaugh for really doing same criminal activity? This is how the Left rolls. GOP'ers aren't all angels, of course not. The Left supports political assassination with guns and personal trashing.

Biden's own daughter said in her diary she wrote when she was 12 that he was taking showers with her. And Biden would use the WH pool naked when female SS Agents were there. That is just sick & perverse.

I'd say the same about anyone being attacked for sexual abuse or pedo behavior,, you need proof, not just words - specific proof. Each and every time Dems are out of ways to attack, they pull out sex. And Useful Idiots suck it up like meth.

There are a lot of things I don't like about Trump. One thing, he is consistent. What he said 40 years ago, he says today.

The Radical Leftist here just spew stuff they hear without any proof. What NYS AG Tish James prosecuted Trump for with her goons from NYC and DC - what she did is way worse with he properties and NYS Taxpayers are covering her legal fees. NYS SC will eventually overturn Trump's felonies and give his bond back with NY Taxpayer interest.

I'm not happy my gas price is up. I'd rather that than Iran with a nuke-tipped ICBM they would use as part of their Islamic Revolution that no POTUS or world leader has dealt with for 48 years - INCLUDING the feckless UN that even had Iran Chair the UN Human Rights Council (HRC) Social Forum and Vice-President of the General Assembly. That is insane for a govt that calls for death to America, Israel and Infidels plus has public hangings, executes people they just don't like and throwing gays off roofs or killing women for not wearing hajibs.

So yeah, I'm fine with Iran being slammed. It'll eventually end with a Civil War with the people turning on IRGC supporters. It's going to horrible to purge the IRGC off the face of the Earth and many Iranian citizens will die. Same was done in WWII.

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ilbbaicnl
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mogul1985

^ The market had cratered from CRA pushed by Clinton ad Dems. The Market had no where to go but up, only it was the slowest financial recover in many decades. $850B was money sent to payback Obama's political supporters. He even had the balls to joke about there were no "shovel ready" jobs. Even the bailout of several auto manufactures was a total mess - while Treasury took on stock to cover the $50B cash infusion to prop-up GM, when sold, Taxpayers didn't recover the $50B plus several overseers had no automotive qualification. This whole "recovery" was a grift.

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Hank Moody

You do remember the Bush 1 presidency for fours years between Clinton and Obama? Maybe the Great Recession of 2008? That was both Clinton’s and Obama’s fault AND the reason they had nowhere to go but up? OK.

Stock market numbers are in our face daily but how about we look at GDP. Numbers came out today for Q1 2026 at 2.2%, below expectations and below what Biden averaged. Here are GDP results by presidency. I’m a republican btw.

investopedia.com

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Hank Moody

Sorry, edit. Bush II for 8 years between. Must. Get. Coffee.

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Hank Moody

Sorry, second edit. 1Q gdp was 2.0%. Expectations were 2.2%. I’ll shut up now.

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Mate27

Hank, make sure you clarify if you’re old school republicans or MAGA. I think I know..

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SleazyPerv

Trump is winning!

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ilbbaicnl

Nailed it with Epstein in purple: youtube.com . Should let Charlie Kirk RIP though.

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