MAGA voter remorse?

When Dean Phillips ran against Biden in the primaries, he could have gotten him off the ticket, like Eugene McCarthy got Johnson off the ticket. The people who voted against Phillips should feel remorse too. Hopefully the Democrats can do better than just tell people Biden is as good as it gets.

I have heard some MAGA voters actually admit that they regret their vote but it usually has to hit them hard personally. People that have lost their businesses or lost significant money due to tariffs, people seeing their health insurance or prescription drug prices skyrocket in price. How about Latinos for Trump? ICE is racially profiling and just violently grabbing anyone Latino citizen or not. The racism and hatred of Trump only go's so far. When people get their health insurance renewal for $2500 per month the loyalty runs out. The reality is Trump doesn't care. He calls affordability a hoax. Translation, he doesn't give a fuck about you.

Trump has never been a perfect candidate. He's very much flawed. But he might as well be George Washington in comparison to what the other side was offering. And I'm not just talking about Harris specifically. I couldn't imagine voting for a member of the modern Democratic party for dog catcher, let alone president. So no remorse.

If you can't find any faults with a politician that you voted for then you're not paying attention. It's the nature of the game.

The Democrats needed to come up with someone better than the Biden-Harris team in the last election to put up against Trump. The previous four years had brought a bungled Afghanistan withdrawal, printing up and passing out three trillion dollars to offset the negative economic effects of the lockdowns which then led to high inflation, ten million illegal immigrants entering the country, a proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine that the Ukrainians could not win and media gaslighting to cover up the fact the president was senile. Neither party really will address our major problems like the two trillion dollar a year deficits, Israeli control of our foreign policy, the approaching insolvency of Social Security and Medicare and the policies of the Fed which leads to inflation and a series of bubbles that then pop.

Eggs are $1.29/dozen today ? Where do you find this crap ? Prices are down but not this much. And that's because of outbreaks of bird flu in prior years, not anything Trump did. The overall inflation rate has remained around 3% since Trump took office. It hasn't gone down.

Why is Trump having to bail out farmers? Apparently the $12B he is giving them will cover less than half their losses.

On the world stage, the US has shown moral and military weakness under Trump's campaign to appease Russia and win a Nobel peace prize for himself. A truly pathetic and shameful period in our history.

The party Trump has assured me that even if the Republicans put Christ up himself as a candidate I will never vote for a Republican again.

@Docsavage and @CaseyX: I agree that the Democrat alternative was not very good. That observation makes me wonder why we don't have better candidates? Why don't we have the political will to confront long term but serious problems (e.g., national debt, climate change, secure energy, effective education).

@Lockjaw: I will agree that Trump has done some good (e.g., the Abraham accords) and taken credit for some things that occurred in spite of his policies (e.g., the stock market). But when you include claims that are extraordinary, you need to cite data to support your claims (eggs at 1.29? gas below $2?) or it calls into question all of the claims in your impressive list.

Eggs in my area are $3.99 per dozen on average. Retail price not wholesale. The prices are similar to those under Biden except for the spikes due to bird flu. We'll see if Trump admin can prevent those spikes in the future.

Another doozy in your list is No Tax on Social Security. That's a lie or at least very misleading. There is only a temporary new tax deduction for an eligible subset of seniors 65+.

@ Lockjaw. Thanks for engaging in some discussion. We need respectful discussion to resolve some of the problems that neither party has handled well.

I googled gas prices and came up with this: gasprices.aaa.com. Hope you filled up with the great prices.

Honestly Trump says a lot of stupid shit granted. Totally. People get into the personality too much though who cares, look at where the ball lands. Trump 2.0 has probably been the greatest president going back I mean maybe ever. What's he done on immigration has saved this country and he might save entire western world. Can you imagine Harris's open border right now? Letting our enemies in wholesale to prey on us. And us paying for all of it. Yeah no thanks.

I don't like Donald Trump but I do agree with what muddy just wrote.

Muddy and DocSavage have been spot on. It takes a special kind of stupid, dementia, or derangment to try and honestly make a case that Obama, Biden, or Harris were or had been better options. Trump 1.0 made amazing strides in fixing everything Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer destroyed over the course of eight years. Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, and the CCP had to deploy a weapon of mass destruction to stop his momentum; and did so successfully. On Day 1, Biden [Obama's third term] set about destroying and unwinding all the success that America had enjoyed for the prior four years and worsening the destruction wrought by the WMD called COVID-19. Trump 2.0 has been working ceaselessly to fix all the new problems, rekindle the successes of 1.0, and build a solid framework for American success and GOP leadership after his second term. He's not a lame duck, he's a cornered animal, and he is fighting like hell to make as much progress for Americans as he can.

So he wrote a tasteless post about a POS hollywood leftie. It would have been better for him to ignore it, but Reiner had devoted a significant amount of time and capital attacking Trump, slandering his name, falsely accusing him, and going after his legacy. Trump had every right to attack him and be glad he's dead. I would have kept it to myself, but that is not Trump's way.

The libs one here can lie and blow each other all day long, and have no doubt they will. The fact remains that Trump is the President of the United States. The GOP controls the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, 26.5 states assemblies (+ one tie and one power-sharing agreement), and 26 governors. Trump won the electoral vote, the popular, and EVERY SINGLE swing state. American soundly rejected the democrat party, wokeism, and the failed lunacy of the 2020 elections. Let the libs have their online temper tantrums. If they try to take their temper tantrums to the street, let them FAFO.

Donald Trump's Presidency is a bird flip to the principle of rule of law. If he's the savior of the Western World, it's not worth saving.

@Electronman: There's very little in our system that encourages good candidates or good governance. Congress has abdicated much of it's power because it's easier to posture and fund raise than to make tough decisions. Addressing the issues you cite would mean making hard choices and likely making a lot of people mad in the short term. There's not a lot of genuine leadership out there but rather a lot of folks who want to keep getting elected so they can keep the trappings of power.

Basically democracy is a terrible system. It may be better than all the alternatives but it's still a terrible system.

Actually Trump is so ashamed of his handling of the economy he refuses to put out economic data. The jobs numbers are so bad he refuses to put them out. What does that tell you? We are now going to have millions of Americans with unaffordable health insurance so they will either pay $2000 per month for insurance or just have no insurance at all which will drive up the prices for everyone. Obviously things aren't going to be getting any better with atrocious job numbers and millions of people unable to afford health insurance. Trump also balloons our deficit ridiculously. People complain about Biden or Obama but we had job growth every month for years, then Trump takes office and it's massive job losses and chaos.

Trump might be fighting like hell, but it seems to me he is motivated primarily by his own personal profits and self aggrandizement.

If Trump was fighting like hell for Americans, where is a coherent health care plan?

Where is any investment in an effective education system? How about child care support?

Is the judicial system really fair under Trump? Why pardon convicted criminals and drug lords? He certainly seems to be using the judicial system for retribution against perceived enemies and pardoning people who support him.

Is it possible to have a humane and effective immigration policy that does not involve masked military on our streets and racial profiling? I have no problem with arresting and deporting criminals but, for me, there is a meaningful distinction between murderers, drug lords, rapists (some of whom are undocumented immigrants) and immigrants who contribute talent and labor to society?

How about support for science-based technology and health care, some of which has extended and improved the quality of life for so many Americans.... certainly for me, and probably even for you. I'd like to see my tax monies invested in science and effective education, rather than being used to bail out American farmers from a problem that was manufactured by Trump's tariff war.

Should we expect Trump or any political leader to respect and abide by the Constitution and US laws? What, if any code of ethics should we expect of our political leaders and those in powerful positions?

I could go on... but I'm not convinced that we should be blinded to the short comings of Trump and his administration (or any administration) by demonizing the alternative. We should all be asking how to make our country better for all Americans by focusing more on problems and their solutions than by taking sides and casting blame on those who disagree with you.

Electromagnetic is clearly an entrenched liberal. He does not debate the merit of his liberal ideals, he wants to know why his liberal ideas are unfulfilled. Because liberalism is wrong and a recipe for failure.

Which Trump policies and actions -specifically- is he enacting to enrich himself? There are none which are tailored to enrich his own profits and not improve the economy for ALL Americans.

Healthcare: the GOP has been working to fix Healthcare by defunding Obamacare, preventing wasteful subsidies to insurance carriers, improving prescription drug prices and access, and ending corruption in thr NIH, FDA, CMS and elsewhere.

Education: the GOP wants to close the failed DoE, strip funds from Universities which violate federal law or promote racism, seismic, wokeism, and other anti-American and un-American policies.

Why is the government responsible for caring for your child? That is just plain stupid.

The judicial system is more fair under Trump than Biden. You seem to be confusing Biden's pardons for Trump and pardoning the unlawful convictions of people at the Capitol on 1/6/21 was necessary and just. It was the democrat party which used lawfare against Republican supporters. I believe most of what you think you know about 1/6/21 to be factually false.

CBP, INS, and DHS are civilian law enforcement, not military. Masks are necessary as many are attempting to follow these officers home and attack their families. If you want them unmasked, then go ahead and post your full name and address here as an example.

Trump's.science and medical policies are more fact-based than partisan driven. Again, you confuse Trump and Biden. There is no "tariff war", that's a made up liberal ploy. American farmers are being hurt by foreign competition. The farms that would rather export than sell domestically are mostly corporate or foreign-controlled and need to be incentivized to sell domestically first.

The GOP has and has had a better track record of hewing to the Constitution and laws than the democrat party. Again, you confuse Biden's unlawful policies with Trump.

Trump and the GOP are imperfect, but so much better thanbthe alternative. We should demonize the democrats and the left. Their policies, paradigms, and actions are evil and harmful. Their sole goal is perpetual power and control. You want to make our country better for all Americans? Never vote democrat. Vote red, vote green, vote purple yellow polka dots or not at all. Most importantly, educate yourself. Everything you stated is wrong and a lie straight from Joy Reid or Rachel Maddow.

As a registered republican for over fifty years I can honestly say I hate Donald Trump and he is a person who gives a shit about himself only. Not the country, not the people, not even his family, just his disgusting bloviating self. Having said that he is just a cult of personality and when he is out of office, the cult disappears.
I support him because the entire democratic party is a cancer on this country and cancer doesn't just go away when it's time is up. You cut it out, or it kills you. Democrats are murdering America with their sick fascination with Islam; which is a cancer on humanity. They're even covering up the fact that the brown university shooting was a targeted assassination of a republican. How.many random shootings have the first victim shit multiple times?

Why is it that Republicans have zero ideas when it comes to health care? Trump lied and said he was going to put out his health care plan in 2 weeks over and over for years and never put out anything at all. Now we have an absolute disaster for health care coming up. What exactly is the Republican health care plan? They don't have one and never did.

Meanwhile, it looks likely that the Dems will nominate another candidate from the tent city, high speed rail to nowhere state, that took away a modest pay raise for fire fighters in a budget full of pork barrel spending. Maybe he'll also pick a Veep from a state that thinks it's racist to stop anti-poverty benefits fraud.

Unemployment just hit a 4 year high and is getting worse. Shocker Trump and Republicans are failing miserably in this category once again.

How about anyone who works with anything related to tourism? Other countries have warnings not to travel here. Trump has cost us and will continue to cost us billions in tourism revenue because unsurprisingly people won't travel here as long as Trump is president.

The Dems have several goals, and it has nothing to improve the American culture. They just want absolute power and control. I'll take the 2 terms of Trump's policies over 12 years of Obama/Biden's, and as for Biden those who ran the WH, certainly not the Biden the Crypt Keeper, will never be held accountable - prosecuted and jail.

1. Take over education to indoctrinate children that started with Carter's DOEd, which has driven our public ed into the ground, especially with the teachers unions. TPUSA is a serious problem for Dems, and thankfully TPUSA is growing, and the DOEd is being neutered with money being sent to the states to handle education. The Teacher Unions are just Dem supporters.

2. Control media - they own the MSM - and their Left Arm PBS, NPR, CPB that was Taxpayer funded and neutered.

3. The Dems started the importation of immigrants via Chain Migration in the late 1960s saying it won't account for many then they lied in 1986 to get Reagan to sign the Amnesty Act by agreeing to secure the border which never happened, and CA went Blue. The flood of illegals during Biden was a demographic change knowing illegals would be uneducated needing Dem Welfare programs, and they'd vote Dem.

4. Obamacare had one goal: crater healthcare so people would demand "Single Payer" aka MEDICAD for All aka Dem Controlled RATIONING. And the Dems are dug-in to throw money at insurers rather than overhauling ACA to make it AFFORDABE.

5. Do the WOKE/DEI thing to get votes. Look at the corruption being uncovered. No wonder they hated DOGE.

I can tune Trump out, and will certainly support his policies 100%. The last administration was a corrupt criminal organization, even the Mira-Lago raid has been proven to be a political attack.

^^ Unemployment - laid-off gov't workers are now showing up on U4. We actually have more people working now in the private sector than just a year ago.

It took Biden/Obama 12 years to add rot to America. It'll take time to turn this around. Reagan's reforms took several years.

Have no worries at all. If the foundation Trump laid out in 2025 via the One Big Beautiful Bill doesn't pan out, the Dems will get the House and Senate.

HOWEVER, if what has been put in place works, all you punk ass Lefties will benefit whining all the way. Canada would be a better fit for you for sure. America was not founded on Socialism as it never works, it's a death spiral.

Lots of good observations posted. I just hope that the Donald stops being so egotistical.

What is amazing is that people still think that Trump cares about anyone but himself. He doesn't at all. He is there to take bribes, keep himself out of jail and get revenge on his perceived enemies. He could absolutely care less about the American people. He is a life long con man and business fraud.

The Trump Derangment Syndrome on the left of this thread is hilarious! Orange Man bad. But Trump! Orange Man bad!

The woke cuck liberals of TUSCL have nothing original to argue. They have no facts or data (which are truly honest, neutral, not easily disproven) to offer. All they can do is point fingers and call Trump names. They are the saddest sack of losers I've ever encountered.

^^ "He is there to take bribes, keep himself out of jail and get revenge on his perceived enemies."

Bribes? What bribes? He doesn't need bribes, he doesn't take a salary (donates it) and any thing he wins in court gets donated. Even the new ballroom is not being paid for by Taxpayers, and sure, it is costing more like $400M only he'll get donations.

There is a lot about Trump I don't like, HOWEVER, his policies are benefiting even Liberals. He is also taking it to the drug cartels with gloves off in a kinetic way. He even told Maduro to give back the oil companies VZ stole from American companies.

It is refreshing we have a POTUS who said what he'd do if elected, then does it. And, he has been very consistent for 45 years - look at his interviews in the 1980s/1990s. Meanwhile the majority of the elected do what lobbyists pay them - screw voters - and bob around in the water looking for votes and more money. Voting Dem today just keeps the Plantations operational.

Here's the best grift: Jazzy wants to run for a US Texas Senate seat. She knows she won't win her House seat, she spends like a drunk merchant marine on shore leave and she doesn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. She will raise millions of $$$ and will find ways to spend it on herself and skim off the rest. She needs to partner up with the Minnesota crime families as their lawyer.

The root problem is the scum instead of the cream rises to the surface in both parties. Too many people vote with their hormones and hysteria, instead of their brains. Why can't the 2028 race be between Josh Shapiro and Larry Hogan? Whichever won, we'd likely have a better President than Trump, Newsom, Pritzker, Bush, Biden, or Obama. But even a good President can do little good, if they're dealing with a bunch of useless showboats in Congress.

Proof? Please go out and interview as many people as you can find that Trump has done business with and see what they have to say about him. He was a fraud. He stiffed everyone. People from other countries and native New Yorkers all knew that Trump was a con man and find it laughable that people are stupid enough to think that he cares about anyone but himself. He almost got his own Vice President killed because of his election fraud lies. Did Trump check in with him to see if he was alright. Nope. Not at all. Trump could have absolutely cared less whether his Vice President was killed. Trump showed zero concern ever.

Trump did say last night that drug prices are down 400, 500 and even 600%. That is the total dipshit in charge of our country. Someone who is too stupid to realize that it's not possible for prices to be down 600%.

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Here is what I see, we are poised for strong economy in 2026-2028. The One Big Beautiful Bill (I really dislike that name as it means nothing.) James Carville posted in the election offices for Clinton "It's the Economy, Stupid" and THAT is solid today.

It takes about 18 months to see the effects of major legislation. It takes time to build factories, nuclear power plants and mining ops. The rules set-up for pharmaceuticals forced manufacturing to China which produces like 90% of our generic antibiotics we need, plus China provides the vast majority of Rare Earth elements we need for the majority of things we use.

Inflation has a compounding effect from 3-4 years of Biden Inflation was like 22%. In Colorado alone, it was 16% in 2021 and 2022 and asshole Dems re-elected Comrade Polis and his Politburo. Now we have under 3% yet it is added onto the previous 4 years. Wages are now growing above inflation which will take time be be noticed plus the tax cuts.

Then, we have the 40 years of MSM, K-12 Public Ed/DOEd and radical liberal colleges like the heralded "Ivy Leaguers" indoctrinations and those from these "elite" schools that wind-up deep in govt's Unconstitutional 4th Branch Bureaucracy that the Legislature and Executive Branches have a allowed to explode so elected politicians can maintain power. control and wealth.

It took Reagan's Tax Cuts two years to be effective. His economic pressure and military build-up was key to the eventual collapse of the USSR in 1991. The USSR had massive flaws created by Communism/Socialism however his strategies undeniably accelerated the process and helped end the Cold War on terms favorable to the West.

My long-winded point is: If Trump's policies produce low inflation (CPI last week was 2.6%, projected to be 3.2% by multiple economic forecasters), increased wages and 2nd Quarter GDP of 3.8% (it's 100% above what the Fed's Powel has been stating). BTW, Q1 2025 (Jan-Mar) GDP was -0.6% which was attributed to a hangover from 2024 before Trump was elected. Throw out 2020 and 2021 due to COVID, and 2022-2024 GDP was like 2.5%.

If 2026 expands as predicted, the Nov '26 Elections will be interesting. All the Dems have is "Trump BAD." They have had ZERO solutions the past 5 years, and what they did do created a hot mess even flies wouldn't touch.