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Stripclubs have they been Affected by the economy

I am curious how stripclubs are doing overall in this economy. I can say for New York City clubs are slower than normal. They aren’t dead but they are slow. I am wondering how stripclubs are doing overall. Also have you seen a decline of the amount of dancers or an increase of girls getting in to the clubs.

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Clubs rely on people's disposable income. And when they barely have any...

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motorhead

^^

Only you. The rest of us are doing quite well

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chunkychicano

When they barely have any, they can just steal whatever they want. ^^thats what you wanted to say

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dustyj

By all accounts Las Vegas is extremely dead right now. The prices are high, the economy is declining and Trump has made it so people from other countries who would vacation in Las Vegas have cancelled all plans of coming.
It does seem that clubs are slower. Many restaurants are struggling with tariffs increasing food costs.

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Puddy Tat

I haven't noticed any differences. The club where I've been going has been better but that's because new management actually is improving a place that was a known dive for decades.

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skibum609

Lockdowns under the covid pretense killed restaurants. has zero to do with tariffs. Strip clubs always do poorly when the economy turns bad. Great for the customer.

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Icey

Dustyj. Exactly. Theyre also raising the cost of tourist visas . Adding a $250 visa integrity fee to the $185 it already costs. But Trump's antagonism towards China, Canada and Mexico really hurt international travel to Vegas. Plus Americans just dont have that much disposable income anymore.

A lot of places are pricing themselves out of business. Local bars abd restaurants are closing like crazy. $30 fried rice and $10 lemonade doesn't cut it in this economy. Add rent and groceries constantly going up.... And the increasing pool of unemployed people.

It all affects spending in clubs.

What im noticing is clubs being used more as places to celebrate bdays or other things. Or special get togethers more than regular hangout spots. The high cover charges are also making club hopping less and less common.

There are a lot of promotions to lure locals in now though.

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dustyj

Lockdowns were 5 years ago bozo.

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mogul1985

^^ TDS is in you well.

Once the BBB starts to gin-up the economy, there will be more disposable income for fun things like Dave & Busters, golf, skiing, Vegas, vacas, and of course strip clubs.

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Mogul go back to your basement and loosen your tinfoil hat . You are completely out of touch with reality

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^ "Lockdowns were 5 years ago bozo." Yeah, and they killed small business that NEVER came back, then inflation that went non-linear and crushed those living paycheck-to-paycheck, and more jobs have been given to non-Americans than at anytime as they take a lower paycheck.

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Small businesses killed themselves by trying to come back with skeleton crews, part time workers and low wages. Cutting corners on quality and services while raising prices.Many owners took high ppp loans and closed shop

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Anyways mogul is just using the thread as a soap box for his right wing extremist rants. Isnt adding anything pertinent about clubs to the discussion

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@Icey - Tariffs have already brought in $120B to Treasury, with a projected $300B by year's end.

Spending cuts, while very minor, are happening along with claw-backs - PBS/NPR, what will they do!

Inflation is steady below 3%.

Investments of over $15T are on their way along with American jobs.

While GDP is around 1.8%, 2026 should be around 2.4% and 2027 3.0%-3.5%, with more money in Middle and Lower class homes to spend/save.

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dustyj

Las Vegas gets a lot of tourist dollars. Many people from Canada and all over the world used to come to Vegas to spend money. Certainly not now. Even if it's only15 to 20% of their total revenue is from tourists Vegas loses billions.

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Larry Summers said it best, he was speaking about how the Trump tariffs haven’t caused the predicted effects, he said when you eat all of your seed corn you will eat well for a while, but when you run out of seed, food will begin to become scarce.

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As an example, a Mexican restaurant near me has only been open for 1 year. Shorty after tariffs being put in place all of their prices increased quite a bit. It now costs $3 more for the exact same burrito. What the fuck does that have to do with lockdowns?

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Icey

Mogul your made up magastats don't reflect reality. Get out more.

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The tourists who do come to vegas are a lot more careful with how much they spend and where.

But todays prices are irrelevant to the lockdowns. Watch tomatoes and Mexican produce go up now...

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By design tariffs hurt the lower classes more than the upper classes, and your typical strip club customer is closer to upper than lower.

This slow down is a weird one. My favorite has admitted she has started dancing one more day a week and she seems to be on vacation less than past years. I also don't remember the last time I went to the club and there were 20+ guys waiting on 4-6 girls. I also haven't really seen the girls ditch out early because there are no customers.

At the same time the equilibrium is mostly there. The guys that go are willing to spend. The girls complain it's slow, but they often complain anytime they aren't chaining VIPs.

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Speaking to Las Vegas and Chica's Bonita's from last week:

There were plenty of dancers during day shift mid week, I saw plenty from the previous year. The regulars at this club would be the blue collar latino community. I'm a flash in the pan regular once a year for 3 or 4 days of "big" spending. The girls I communicated with on this topic indicated that business is down big for them, unsustainable for them in fact.....needing to add in a vanilla job soon. So there is a trickle down effect for this club (due to immigration law enforcement).

Note, I'm not applying a judgement or opinion here....just sharing their data. My disposable income hasn't been affected, so my spending patterns stay the same, but CB's bread and butter clients are drying up....and with them, the dancers.

Jaybud

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Baristafan

Pussy is cheaper outside the clubs. So many civi sluts doing the sugarbaby thing.
AMP's charging $100-$200 for bareback.

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Im seeing a lot more dancers and less customers.

Chicas bonitas has been going downhill for years. Jessie turned it into a drug den basically. Will sells drugs. A lot of the girls supplement their income selling drugs, fake designer bags, etc.

The problem is construction slowing down. ICE raids. A Republican governor running the state into the ground.

Most of the dancers work at other clubs as well. Not just the one club.

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IMHO strip clubs are not as enticing, especially to younger customers. Clientele in the clubs I frequent are getting older, lots of long time PLs still addicted to T&A up close and personal. For those non-addicted custys, the novelty and forbidden nature of SCs has worn off, all leading to an overall industry slowdown. I hate it, but at least I have my regulars. Just wish more new blood was cycling through, more playmate level hotties instead of the heavily tattooed and pierced everywhere goth girls.

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Summer is the slow season for strip clubs, especially in the northern half of the United States where there is only about four months of good weather. Most people have better things to be doing than going to a strip club during the summer: vacation, weekends at the cabin, festivals, picnics, etc. I can see sexier women strutting in bikinis down at the lake right now than I can see at my local strip club.

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At my local club I have seen greater variability, but no overall change. There are more dead nights, but also more standing room only, 5 person long wait for available rooms, nights. I'm seeing more dancers and my favorites are taking more time off and don't seem to be concerned about make rent, etc.

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I think clubs are changing. Gemtlemans clubs definitely have an older customer base. A lot of clubs are going urban. With sections and stuff. Those get a lot younger customers.

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Strip clubs have been crushed by ONLYFANS.. talent is way down....why? the slutty girls are now making bank from guys on onlyFANS. Nearly 10% of all american girls are now on ONLYFANS

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The term "strip club" covers a variety of club types:

  1. Lap dance clubs
  2. Dolla throw clubs
  3. Brothels passing as lap dance clubs (rare except in select places)
  4. Air dance clubs (rare generally)
    I would guess the dolla throw clubs are most affected by the economy. All will be impacted to some degree, since they depend on discretionary spending. I would guess most PLs are like me, in that they'd rather cut back in other areas than forgo lap dances or brothel services.
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ilbbaicnl

@rawhide2 where did you get that stat? Does "girl" refer to a particular age range?

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gammanu95

Strip clubs will experience the same effect as any service industry business would in any economy. The problem is that the more attractive girls are working online, the college students are at home for the summer, and people spend the summers outdoors. That is why hot new shows do not premiere in the summer months. By the fall, students will be back to stripping through school, going indoors to avoid the winter weather, and the economy will be shaking off the Biden/democrat doldrums. There is nothing we can do about OnlyFans. That is here to stay.

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I dont think talent is down per se. It just looks like it because there are so many dancers. Lots of girls are giving it a try. Many who shouldn't. But clubs will hire anyone for that house fee.

Onlyfans is lucrative for a very small number if girls. Most earn maybe like $1000 a month if they're lucky.

It all comes down to men having less discretionary income. People are broke

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rawhide2

2 sources - newsweek and population count data center (18-24)

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you can spin statistics any way the holder of the data wants - if you did not learn that in college, you should request a refund. Believe what you want my friend; I prefer the raw data.

It is a FACT that onlyfans has removed girls from being strippers as it is no touch, no meet, no danger and they can sit at home all day and watch their BF play video games.

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Onlyfans hasnt made strippers quit their jobs en masse. Most view it as just another income stream. An easy finesse for extra money.

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I can only speak to my favorite local club, but there things have been picking up in recent weeks. This is in the dead of Summer, which is the absolute worst time for NE FL strip clubs.
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We'll have to see if the trend continues, but I wouldn't be shocked. With how rapidly things are expanding here, we already have more high paying blue collar jobs coming online than people to fill them. I suspect that this will accelerate even more now that companies can depreciate 100% of cap ex spending in Year 1.

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@icey “most” onlyfans girls arent earning anywhere near $1000 a month.
You do understand of their monthly subscription fee, they only receive a small portion of that, while onlyfans the company keeps the rest…
For a girl to earn $1000 a month she would need a lot of monthly subscribers, or would really need to be selling some sort of products like used panties or selling private videos, custom videos, video calls to clients.

Selling all that stuff requires having some subscribers (fans) too. And theres also market rates for a lot of those things. For instance private videos can be sold for $10-$20 each. Custom videos they can charge a bit more…

Its not easy to obtain even 100 paying customers per month. Its not like YouTube where its free to subscribe and view. And again even 100 customers at $10 a month… onlyfans keeps a huge portion of that money

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I wouldnt describe onlyfans as a finesse. Unless its one of those girls who pretends to offer free videos for subscribers, but once you subscribe and pay a small monthly fee, will ask for more money for videos. Or girls who claim they will show their face or offer xyz to subscribers and dont do it. I think you can also report them to onlyfans and get the subscription fee refunded

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Icey

Rickdugan is really baghdad Bob

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I was talking to a 30 something stripper this week and we are both in the same camp as AZZD. Younger guys are just accustomed to doing everything online and aren't into going to strip clubs. Most regular strip club guys are older. Some of that comes with having more disposable income as you get established but not all of it.

Most of us grew up in a time where there weren't as many avenues to get your guilty pleasures as there are today so we went to clubs.

Don't know exactly why but the slowdown started with all the covid lockdowns and clubs haven't recovered fully.

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^whats azzd?

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ilbbaicnl

When I used to see escorts, a common problem I had was, they'll put your dick in their mouths as soon as you get within a foot of them. I had to slow them down, let them know I wanted a salad first. You might think it's just a way to short the PL time. But, from talking to them, I think it's more the case that it's common for guys to just want to get to the main course. So maybe it's possible younger guys are more like that than us geezers. When I was young, couples could date for months, without going further than what happens during good two-way in the couch room. Maybe younger guys just have no experience with or interest in sexual contact without salami hiding. Perhaps to them, a strip club is primarily about showing off by throwing singles.

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From what I've heard from women a lot of guys aren't into foreplay.

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skibum609

Not sure when everyone grew up, but when I was a young guy, if you wanted to be humiliated beyond belief and laughed at by all, have sex with a woman and blow a load quickly. Being tagged with "minute man" was the ultimate disgrace. Once you get used to a lot of foreplay, constant arousal without finishing, and then the finish, quick sex is just like going to Mickey D's because you're too fucking lazy to cook.

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Icey

Foreplay isnt popular with really young people now a days. Its weird.

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Icey

This is the weirdest generation when it comes to sex

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Puddy Tat

^ They're having less sex than any other generation. They live electronically.

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gammanu95

To the OP. Always, "it's the economy, stupid."

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Icey

Yeah they do live electronically. You can chat on social media and to them its a relationship. They think sharing nudes is like sex. Some will say things in text they wouldn't in person.

I'm seeing a lot of younger girls thinking sex is like hardcore porn. You have to teach them to be more gentle. Like in the way they suck dick really rough or expect rough fast sex. Theyre surprised you can have sex for a few hours.

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