Keep Calm

Tongue-in-cheek but there's truth to this image.

It's a funny picture, but I don't see how Musk really has any leverage with Trump. Biden was subsidizing the efforts of legacy US auto makers to produce electric vehicles, so Musk wanted him and Harris gone. Musk has to think of new ways to give Trump a hard-on for him, or he'll soon be dumped like Ivana and Marla were.

“ dumped like Ivana and Marla were “

And a thousand other suck ups.

Thanks to Libby-ape (or whatever the fuck his name is) for posting this in the politics room.

But Imma target this response to my fellow felid. Seriously, you seem like a nice guy. I get that you like Trump and think he’ll do a good job. But I don’t get the liberal tears thing.

You’re not like Skifredo and Gamma. Both of those weirdos can’t stop posting about politics in the front room. They take apolitical shit and somehow turn it into political shit and derail conversations.

Skifredo actually posts apolitical threads sometimes and seems like a semi-reasonable (albeit demented) guy in them. I can’t remember the last fully apolitical thread Gamma posted. Gamma is just a douche. If he believed that eating a shit sandwich would own the libs he’d devour a 1/2 lb shitburger and wash it down with a diarrhea shake.

All this lion is sayin’ is that if you’re right the economy will substantially improve and most people will say “okay, I guess Trump 2.0 was a good idea”. And, if that doesn’t happen, we’ll try again in 4 years.

Libby (and just under half of the voting population) voted the other way. Some of them are a bit frustrated. Either My lion-y philosophy after elections is always “let’s see how things turn out.”

Frankly, I’m expecting the next 4 years to be a lot of angry posts on Truth social and little actual change in anything that makes a difference to average folks (or felids). But that gives me something pretty profound - room to be “rong” and pleasantly surprised!

Maybe replace the liberal tears with “y’all are going to be pleasantly surprised”. Just sayin’. ROAR!!!

@PT so you perceive a 1.5 percentage point margin of victory as roundly rejecting? That's probably similar to your perception of your penis size versus the reality.

Trump's slanders against transexuals are comparably nasty, batshit and threatening as the slanders against us. Specifically, the slander that we are human traffickers because we are the customers of sex workers. That's not a wait and see thing, it's already happened.

Trump's inaction on 1/6/21 proves to the non-stupid that he would like to see an end to the democratic rights provided by the Constitution. Electing him, and people who support him, is analogous to driving a car at night with non-working headlights. We have Constitutional limits on Presidential power as our seat belts and air bags. But we'd be foolish to not think we're in serious danger.

That's a handsome dog

@PT you can't help it if it's too short to swing, no shame.

Me:
You: and yes I will keep dunking on

You think the MAGA-inspired hysteria of you and other weak minds should override the private decisions of parents and competent medical professionals. Textbook Fascism. And let's not forget the hystterical, slanderous demonization of trans people who simple want to play a sport or use public bathrooms.

One cannot uphold principles by not following them. Assassination to change an election outcome is counter to proper democratic, legal, and moral principles. Not everyone thinks running away should be the automatic response to a serious threat.

Suppose a 35 year old guy tries to rob a bank, but the bank guards stop him. His defense is, he went for 34 years without trying to rob a bank, and he didn't manage to rob it anyways, so it's all good. A jury of Puddy Tats would acquit.

As to your big list, I'll call bullshit on #7 unless you have direct quotes, and then I'll not that orange sociopathy is still not a rational response. Treating bigoted tards who happen to be working-class white men as bigoted tards is just dealing with reality. Try it sometime. Walz told women they'd be beaten if they voted for Harris??? Everyone should be listened to. Forcing poor women to stay pregnant when they don't want to be will result, in the aggregate, in a large net cost to taxpayers. (Parenthetically, helping poor women who don't want to get an abortion might provide us with the next Einstein.) The main civil rights issue is that civil rights are for everyone. Since current fascist strategy is to go after reproductive and Trans civil rights first, it is the fascists who have made those civil rights the most visibly controversial ones. Whether Harris or some other mediocre well-known Democrat is the nominee in 2028 is of little importance. The solution to Democrat mediocrity is not an unnaturally orange sociopath we can't vote out.

A potential 2025 Trumpocalypse would have one or more of these causes:
o A trade war and/or government shutdown leading to a vicious cycle of layoffs and price increases.
o Deployment of National Guard from red states in blue states, leading to firefights between Guard troopers.
o Mass replacement of senior military officers with fascists. But the threat of this is much reduced, since enough Senate Republicans showed enough spine to stop the Gaetz nomination.

A more slowly developing threat may be a growing plainclothes, KKK-like movement in red states, that both Federal and state LE will turn a blind eye to. It would start with assassinations and church bombings, like those seen in The South before 1970.

@PT don't you think it's hard enough being the parent of a kid with gender dysphoria? Without shitbag slanderers like you calling them child abusers? When you accuse people of horrible things without giving them the benefit of the doubt, you are a shitbag slanderer. There is no lifelong harm in making someone wait till they are 18 to get a tattoo. There is lifelong harm in prohibiting puberty blockers for minors who need them. The Cass Study does not conclude that puberty blockers should be banned.

Trump helped organize a demonstration. When it turned into an insurrection, he ignored his duty to insure a response came as quickly as possible. So, fine, Trump didn't rob the bank. He worked as a guard at the bank. He convinced some very dim-witted friends that bank robbery had become legal. When his friends robbed the bank, he could have done something to help stop the robbery, but he didn't. Presumably you see no problem with that.

Hitler improved the German economy with a major fiscal stimulus program. Government policy can certainly do harm to the economy. But it can't guarantee a good economy. The most inflationary recent government policy was the stimulus checks, issued by both Trump and Biden.

The 9th Amendment says that there are guaranteed rights that are NOT in the Constitution. Part of the reason that no bill of rights was originally in the Constitution was the fear of exactly what you are doing. Trying to use the Constitution to take away rights, rather than protect them.

You wouldn't call Michael Flynn a fascist? en.wikipedia.org

By "KKK-like", I mean the ilk of violent demonstrators on 1/6/21. If they are all pardoned, what message does that send? The dynamics of it would likely be similar to those of an urban street gang. If LE doesn't clamp down on them, they will recruit older boys and younger men in predominantly white working class areas. That can quickly reach a tipping point where recruits see their choice as being victims or joining the victimizers.

@PT

"Why would it be harder than being the parent of a child with any other mental illness?"

Yes, I've seen families in that situation. I've seen young teenagers on strong medications, that leave them spacey and sadly indifferent. But I don't jump to the conclusion that it's child abuse. I assume that the parents are going to make a better choice between bad alternatives than I would.

"Encouraging your kid to make irreversible decisions with lifetime"

Encouraging? What is your evidence for that? What is wrong with you, that you have to pull slanderous assumptions out of your ass, in order to have an excuse to hate people?

"Look up the product label for Lupron, among others."

It's not unique to gender disphoria that there is no easy road. There are major risks with all the options. Better to leave the decisions to individual, loving parents than a herd of hysterical, hateful neurotics.

"The Cass report played into the NHS’ decision to restrict puberty blockers to kids."

Paused until more clinical trials can be conducted. The Cass report did not declare parents who agreed to the use of the drugs to be child abusers.

"He told them to go home."

After waiting to see if they could stop the certification of the electoral vote.

"horribly tortured, bizarre analogy"

But sadly an accurate one.

"Must burn you that only hardcore Democrat partisans still care."

Correct, except it's democrat with a small d.

"Right, anything good during Trump’s term wasn’t his doing, and anything bad that happened was."

When did I say that? I guess you have to argue with yourself since your penis is too tiny to find it and jerk off.

"Spending during a sharp deflationary shock like COVID is not equivalent to spending on top of Trump’s checks"

The Federal budget decreased in 2022 and again in 2023.

Abortion was legal when the 9th Amendment was passed. No new reason has arisen to ban it, that would stand up to the principle of subjective due process.

"Pretty hilarious to see anyone on the left talking about the Bill of Rights when their last ticket believes the 1st amendment doesn’t apply to “mis/mal/dis-information” or “hate speech” (as they define it). Come to think of it, half the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply when it gets in the way of “getting Trump.”

Again, sorry you're unable to jerk off the more satisfying way.

"Anti-Semite perhaps, but not fascist."

I'll agree to disagree about whether it's fair to call someone who want a baseless revote supervised by the military a fascist.

"Would that all violent demonstrators were so tame, unlike the “mostly peaceful” BLM ones."

Agree to disagree that Jan 6 was tame. There is no comparable case, where police were under mass attack, and another politician did not move to send assistance. Decisions were made to accept property damage to avoid casualties. They were questionable, since property owners defending their property were put at risk of being casualties.

"Nonviolent demonstrators only."

That's a wishful, not a straight-forward, interpretation of what Trump has said.

"Another if, if, if, if, if fever dream. Trump’s such a racist that he got more of the black/Latino vote than any Republican in years."

Agree to disagree it's wrong to anticipate and avoid possible bad scenarios.

Non-white people know they have to endure racism, voting it away isn't an option for them. Even people who see Biden as marginally less racist, might have been fooled by Trump's promise of major price drops, and thus a better standard of living.

The video is amusing, would have been better as a short IMO.

Oh God PT Megan Fox's don't dress in clothes or play with toys that are traditional for their gender. That's not being transgender. We just don't live in the same reality, so this conversation can never accomplish anything.

Substantive due process not subjective due process.

Trust parents to make correct choices for their kids? What a little sissy view of the world. I make a great living because the average parent isn't capable of raising a geranium, let alone a child.
Progressives managed to lose to the biggest asshole on earth and yet, their sheer arrogance and idiocy doesn't permit them to even contemplate that Trump winning was America's way of telling progressives to fuck off and die.

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