Multiple choice:
gammanu95
My casual drinking is your alcohol poisoning.
A) the most incompetent President in American history?
B) the most corrupt President in American history?
C) the most divisive President in American history?
There is no all of the above or none of the above. Any follow-ups must begin with "yes", and contain no "if"s, "and"s, or "but"s.
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B. Debatable
C. Obama
A. depends on your worldview: for me, Trump
B. Nixon got canned. Trump did not get canned, but he has a felony....whether you think he deserves it is debatable. But he'll get at least one more, again debatable on whether he should get another one.
C. refer to my answer to A.
2) No. His predecessor was much worse and convicted for criminal conduct.
3) No. Again his predecessor was definitely much more divisive
That’s my opinion, my guess is you’re just trolling, and this is another example.
He is clearly competent at destroying the border and the United States's reputation abroad. Obama was the most divisive president.
Divisive? Buchanan literally saw the country divided under his watch. Johnson fucked up Reconstruction and we're literally still facing the racial consequences of that today.
Anyone who knows more American history than a baboon has more perspective than that.
Most corrupt president? Trump or Harding, but a 2nd term will definitely put Donny over the top.
Most divisive president? Trump, Nixon as a distant second.
Laziest president? Trump.
Fattest president? Taft, but fat fuck Donny could make a run in a 2nd term.
What a great president!
Biden will be known for having worsening dementia throughout the whole presidency and a cadre of handlers who played the victim when it was called out. He will also be known for proudly letting in 11 million illegals, 20% inflation over his term, and spectacularly fucking up the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
"TRUMP will be known for having worsening NARCISSISM throughout the whole presidency and a cadre of handlers who QUIT OR GOT FIRED when it was called out. He will also be known for proudly IGNORING DAILY SECURITY BRIEFINGS, ATTEMPTING TO MANAGE COVID over his term, and spectacularly SETTING up the withdrawal from Afghanistan. "
Results, baby.
He should be forgotten, remembered only as a footnote to a constitutional amendment mandating universal term limits and retirement ages.
wild4testes is an expert regarding stupidity and intentionally misrepresenting facts because he is and does it all the time!
BTW, I'm late on this thread biden is at or near the top of the list on a b and c.
The democrat congress passed the stimulus spending, Trump endorsed it. Politically, Trump really had no choice to endorse it, but it was a democrat bill.
It was Biden's Admin and his gay DEI hire as SecTrans that took paternity leave and ignored the supply crisis.
It was Biden's admin and his grossly unqualified Defense and NSC which allowed Russians to hack our oil and gas pipelines and hold them hostage.
Crooked Joe owns this 110%. Period. Full stop.
Just how fucked up is that. No, Trump is far from the perfect candidate and his frank personality ruffles the feathers of the progressive Karens. But Biden led us down a wrong path - and if Harris is elected, her radical Marxist agenda will only be spread further.
Forgot about the you can hack other things but not this. You can fuck us in the ass Vlad but please use lube!
He reminded of some old fuck in my life when he would repeatedly introduce himself as “Jill Biden’s husband.” Cringe.
"Pinning inflation entirely on Biden is either stupidity, or intentionally misrepresenting facts - would you agree?"
Yes, I would agree that Biden is not primarily responsible for the inflation seen under his administration. He's also not responsible for so-called "job creation" which were jobs lost at the end of Trump's term due to Covid. The president doesn't control monetary policy, which affects inflation a lot more than most anything a president can do.
When you don't give a fuck what other people think and don't lick boots all day, it's easy to just say when you think, even if it goes contrary to the narrative that doesn't agree with the party. Nice try on the "gotcha bitch" though.
So, yes and no. Who the president nominates for the Fed affects monetary policy, but any random president is not likely to nominate more than 50% or so of the sitting board members. However, through treaties, tariffs, and Cabinet Secretaries, the President can do a lot to affect monetary policy with direct impacts on employment and inflation.
He is the de facto leader of his party which passed the spending bills, much of which was unrelated to the pandemic and in addition to what Trump had spent when government spend was needed to keep small businesses afloat and compensate for a lack of consumer demand. He nominated an incompetent SecTrans who took 2 months' paternity leave during a supply chain crisis.
Biden isn't responsible for the whole thing, but he's more culpable than any other single person. He deserves the bolts and arrows thrown his way on this.
I totally get people hating Trump and willing to vote Harris or Biden. The idea they defend their choice by pretending that those two fucknuts did not wreck this country, just makes them look like the uneducated liars they happen to be.
It wasn't Bush's fault that the .com bubble came into full swing as he took office, it wasn't Obama's fault that the GFC hit as he was coming into office, it wasn't Trump's fault that Covid happened at the end of his term. The US economy generally runs itself, regardless of who is in the white house.
"Who the president nominates for the Fed affects monetary policy"
Powell was an Obama appointee, made prez by Trump, and reappointed by Biden. When it comes to fiscal discipline, Trump is no different from Biden. They both love to spend and both want a dovish Fed because it stokes economic expansion. Volcker, Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Powell ... these are the masters of the universe, not Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden. With MMT in full swing, I'm not so sure we can't kick this can down the road another generation or two.
Remember when everyone thought the world would end because of Obamacare? Well, when you can print money with impunity, the party just keeps going. Don't bet on it stopping. Money printing was out of control from 2010 to 2020 but it was actually deflationary. Don't believe the seemingly logical argument that printing money is inflationary, because it wasn't for a very long time. Remember how cars were so expensive in 2021? Well, of course they were, because you couldn't find cars on lots. It had nothing to do with money printing. Supply chain disruptions were to blame. No, the multi trillion dollar injection from the Fed did not help, but it wasn't the most direct cause either. All just my opinion, there are good arguments for other cases.
Too much money chasing too few goods is the very definition of inflation. Biden exacerbated both of those.
Biden (and Harris) deservedly own inflation.
Dumbass will never learn.
Geezaloo gammon fuck off you moron, you have no clue how stupid you sound.
BTW I’m voting for Harris, she’s going to win.
Cute.
No idea why he was spoiling for a fight with me today. I don't like drama for the sake of drama. I love arguing politics a bit much for my own good but I'll return the energy that's thrown at me.
Biden will be known for 20% inflation, 11 million illegals (oh and Elizabeth Warren is pushing for a path to citizenship that Democrats swore they would never do), absolutely buttfucking the Afghanistan withdrawal, and having his incapacity concealed more than any president since Woodrow Wilson.
Obama will be remembered as the first black president, and for his limp wristed foreign policy that we're still paying the price for.
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@wld4tatas - can you refute any of it? Still waiting.
Here are the survey results. Read and weep kids. And thanks for playing.
Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024…
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politic…
You are truly deranged to believe they have even a shred of credibility left. No one believes them, and fewer believe you.
Afghanistan is what sent Biden's polls diving, and they never recovered. I guess every American is a desperate online right wing shill.
From the description:
The 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey was conducted online via Qualtrics from November 15 to December 31, 2023. Respondents included current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, which is the foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics, as well as scholars who had recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses.
You vote for whomever you like I’ll do the same, Que cera
Nope it wasn't NYT, look again. Another pathetic shill not even reading the linked articles properly, yet claiming to be certain the survey isn't valid. You guys are a total joke.
Here's another one from 2021, from the often right-leaning Forbes
Trump Ranks 41st Of 44 Presidents In Survey Of Historians As Obama Cracks Top 10
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolen…
Yeah, a bunch of opinions from left wing academics using criteria so bad it's hilarious, are "valid." Not like they aren't trying to influence the election or anything.
Anyone who keeps shuffling rankings of presidents from centuries ago, and claims to know where recent presidents stand in history, is not fit to be called an expert.
The economists who predicted in 2016 that Trump would crash the economy with a win in 2016 lied to influence the election.
The Hilary campaign and media allies who spread the fake Russian Trump Dossier lied to influence the election.
Do you see the pattern? It's all bullshit. They are pushing a narrative and agenda which is completed disconnected from any rational objectivity. Wld4cocks is happy to drain the leftist media balls dry, get fucked in the ass all day long, and get tossed aside like the crusty cumrag he is when they're done; but he refuses to accept that people disagree with him and demand integrity from our information outlets and accountability from those claiming to have or be authority.
You liberals don't have to respect yourselves, but you're damned well not going to stop me from demanding respect for myself and our constitutional values.
It’s so easy to trigger you, you’re so easily manipulated
Dance monkey dance
Watch how they're pushing the Harris nonsense now. Her radical proposals never happened. Her botched 2020 run never happened. She's the epitome of cool when Democrats were debating axing her from the ticket last year.
Do they think we all have dementia like Joe now?
The way the media outlets are willfully scrubbing Kamala's history is frightening, and shows just how deeply normed fake news has become. This is what makes liberal shills like 25IQ and wld4cocks so bold. They would otherwise be too cowardly to share their lies, but they have a criminally complicit newsmedia actively trying to rewrite history. So few of us care about the truth and integrity. I guess courage, truth, and integrity are just symbols of white supremacy.
(Or should I quote you and say dance, porch monkey, dance)
Tour turn, bitch