I'm interested in reviews of any business that involves naked women and sex. I have no problem with keeping FKK and other similar services in this list of reviews.
I don't care what kind of sexually oriented clubs are listed in TUSCL but when it comes to top 40 clubs it's not fair to compare creme brûlée to jello.
Yeah, crème brûlée blows. Who’d order that hit dessert when there’s chocolate cake, key lime pie, and strawberry shortcake? That’s what it’s like to order at an FKK, and you can get a fruit cup in most US clubs. It’s why I always wait until I get home for dessert when I go out, but we all know it’s about choice.
I agree with shadowcat, but who wants to split the hair that thin? Consider the following progression:
Any Orlando club Admiral Theater, Chicago Any Bourbon Street club Follie's Diamond Dolls, Pompano Beach HK, TJ FKK Sharks
Air dance, no touching whatsoever Juice Club, fully nude, minimal touching one-way Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, no ITC Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, ITC Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, you go for the ITC Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, brothel club in all but name Brothel club because it's legal
@wld4tatas, I think the issue is that people rank clubs relative to their other experience. If you've only ever been to low mileage clubs in the midwest, and find yourself Allure, you're going to report it to being amazing.
Review Count, Unique Reviews, and even Most Bookmarked are more objective rankings, those indicate where PLs are voting (or plan to vote) with their feet and dollars.
The ratings are HEAVILY influenced by "local" competition/comparison. Any comparison that extends beyond the same metro area is often worthless. IMHO, I think it is better to have the info that other countries / regions are less puritan about this. Gammanu's comment nails it IMO. Orlando and Pompano aren't that terribly far away by driving distance but are worlds away in service.
It's interesting to see how the numbers add up to show what we collectively think are the "best" clubs, but it's tough to get to a real apples to apples comparison outside of a given metro area.
I wonder: is HK a strip club with a brothel, or a brothel with a strip club? Is FKK a strip club in any material way?
One of my favorite clubs in the world is Club Hot in Madrid. It's big, it's luxurious, there are multiple stages and poles and dances going on at all times, and smoking girls from all over the world. But... upstairs is a brothel with bedrooms. It's a great time, but it's pretty far from what we would call an SC here in Seattle. Then again, they are selling pussy, there are dancers, and it is a club... so maybe they are the same thing at some level.
^ HK is a strip club first. IMHO. It's an ultra high mileage strip club with 100% OTC availability and a hotel next door.
I'm curious about the "party" vibe at an FKK. Many reviewers are teetotalers are looking for more of a relaxing time here. What's an FKK like though if you were looking to party like you would with a BG at HK?
@RonJax - FKK does not have a party vibe in my experience. There’s music piped in throughout but the building is quite large. There is a decent sized bar but people don’t come there to party as the primary objective and just be around hit girls. You go to FKK for the girls and if you choose to have some drinks, great. I typically drink a fair amount at SCs but when I went to FKK I only had two beers over my six sessions during an eight hour visit.
To me including FKK clubs is no different than including the clubs in Tijuana where you can take the girls to a hotel next door. In fact it is no different than any club that allows extras.
Sure the ability to cheaply and easily buy sex gives the club an advantage of other clubs. However, the same could've been said about Follies in it's heyday compared to a low mileage high priced club in DC or NYC or some of the peep show style performance where you are separated from the dancer by plexiglass. Would anyone on here argue that Follies wasn't a top club on here or that the reason it was a top club was that extras were offered easily and cheaply?
If you want to exclude FKKs because they sell sex you would have to exclude any club that frequently offers extras.
I would like to add that there is technically no lap dancing at an FKK. There might be stage with a stripper pole where a girl might do some pole dancing for about 10 minutes but that's it. Nobody is making it rain here. lol
FKK's are primarily brothels. I wasted nearly 20 years going to strip clubs in the states. I have not gone back once I've discovered FKKs.
Just looked and noticed that FKK Sharks completely dropped off the new Top 40.
> I would like to add that there is technically no lap dancing at an FKK. There might be stage with a stripper pole where a girl might do some pole dancing for about 10 minutes but that's it.
I guess that's a fair reason. I was trying to rationalize, why would you keep the Tijuana clubs on the list but not the FKKs? And you have a good point here. HKGC is definitely a strip club, just one that happens to have readily available OTC in the hotel above it. But it is first and foremost a strip club. I haven't been to an FKK but it doesn't sound like you could say the same thing.
I think there should be more places like FKK sharks added to TUSCL. I tried to get founder to add more places like this on the list. At the end of the day, they are all selling sex is some shape or form. With the FKKs, they are selling it directly and not hiding. Germany, Hungary, Austria, Switzerland seems to be the powerhouses of Europe bordellos. Latin America, we all know they sell pussy. I need to make my way to Brazil and Argentina. I hear the deals for good looking bitches is unreal. Colombia is getting expensive (and dangerous) because of dumb Americans not being low key with their funds. If you look "well-off" expect to get "knocked off".
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Cherry pie baby, cherry pie !
Any Orlando club
Admiral Theater, Chicago
Any Bourbon Street club
Follie's
Diamond Dolls, Pompano Beach
HK, TJ
FKK Sharks
Air dance, no touching whatsoever
Juice Club, fully nude, minimal touching one-way
Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, no ITC
Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, ITC
Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, you go for the ITC
Alcohol, fully nude, two-way touching, brothel club in all but name
Brothel club because it's legal
Review Count, Unique Reviews, and even Most Bookmarked are more objective rankings, those indicate where PLs are voting (or plan to vote) with their feet and dollars.
I wonder: is HK a strip club with a brothel, or a brothel with a strip club? Is FKK a strip club in any material way?
One of my favorite clubs in the world is Club Hot in Madrid. It's big, it's luxurious, there are multiple stages and poles and dances going on at all times, and smoking girls from all over the world. But... upstairs is a brothel with bedrooms. It's a great time, but it's pretty far from what we would call an SC here in Seattle. Then again, they are selling pussy, there are dancers, and it is a club... so maybe they are the same thing at some level.
Maybe this is an exercise in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtyping
I'm curious about the "party" vibe at an FKK. Many reviewers are teetotalers are looking for more of a relaxing time here. What's an FKK like though if you were looking to party like you would with a BG at HK?
Sure the ability to cheaply and easily buy sex gives the club an advantage of other clubs. However, the same could've been said about Follies in it's heyday compared to a low mileage high priced club in DC or NYC or some of the peep show style performance where you are separated from the dancer by plexiglass. Would anyone on here argue that Follies wasn't a top club on here or that the reason it was a top club was that extras were offered easily and cheaply?
If you want to exclude FKKs because they sell sex you would have to exclude any club that frequently offers extras.
FKK's are primarily brothels. I wasted nearly 20 years going to strip clubs in the states. I have not gone back once I've discovered FKKs.
> I would like to add that there is technically no lap dancing at an FKK. There might be stage with a stripper pole where a girl might do some pole dancing for about 10 minutes but that's it.
I guess that's a fair reason. I was trying to rationalize, why would you keep the Tijuana clubs on the list but not the FKKs? And you have a good point here. HKGC is definitely a strip club, just one that happens to have readily available OTC in the hotel above it. But it is first and foremost a strip club. I haven't been to an FKK but it doesn't sound like you could say the same thing.
That's just how it is.