Good Luck with those green semi trucks California

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• Muddy

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  2 years ago

  California used to be a red state, I always how fucking awesome that must’ve been. Talk about having it all.
• Muddy

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  2 years ago

  *always think
• shadowcat

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  2 years ago

  Yes it was. I was born there in 1942 and left in 1987 before it went to shit.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Cali is the greatest republic
• ilbbaicnl

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  2 years ago

  I think maybe the plan is to use hydrogen for larger vehicles.
• RiskA

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  2 years ago

  “Science” also would dictate mandating everyone eat tofu rather than meat. The issue isn’t the science it’s more the mandate & the mandate’s Imperial authority basis. Why do “you” (thatXguy, the current administration, social media, etc.) get to decide what’s best for everyone else? Just because you/they don’t see value in pulling a trailer? I’d rather trust the invisible hand of a free market of decentralized individuals, far far more than the dictates of a ruling class whose first & foremost focus is power over others.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Shadowcat. You think social justice and sustainable development is going downhill. You also brag about fucking hookers younger than your granddaughter.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Muddy you're broke and cheap af. But support politics that hurt poor people like you
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Mark. Mr 1 income is better than 2 and Trump won the election 🤡
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  Science mysteriously only means "believe in anthropogenic global warming" rather than knowing there are biological differences between sexes, or that puberty blockers have major side effects, or that "organic" farming can't save the world, or that printing money leads to inflation. Lol. We could cut carbon emissions to near-zero if we were willing to go back to the 18th century. But we obviously have other priorities. Guess what? Actual science says electric trucks aren't yet up to the job. And that we'll need lots of fossil fuels to pull all the metals and minerals out of the ground for "green" vehicles. Build something better, and we'll use it. That's how new technologies replace old ones. Not by declaring ICE vehicles illegal then telling people to refrain from powering EVs during peak hours.
• bang69

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  2 years ago

  my friends youngest daughter is stationed at Edwards AFB. She can't wait to get out of that shit hole state.
• mike710

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  2 years ago

  I'm all for cars that can run on water and extract hydrogen to power themselves and fart flowers out of the emission pipe. However, it's just not practical at this point. Yes, trucks will run with Hydrogen Fuel cells but right now those trucks are 3 times as expensive as a diesel truck. When you look at the numbers that make it seems that one day these electric trucks will break even with diesel trucks, they have a "with incentives" attached to them. Somebody has to pay for these "incentives" for this to work. Whether that's trough higher product costs or a flat out tax on others. Also, no numbers talk of more than a 250 mile range for electric trucks. So, if the trucks only run 100 miles and back that's fine. All these people making a living as long haul truckers will lose out. Also, the capital outlay for an independent trucker will be too much and only corporate trucking companies will exist in this new diesel free utopia. Is there consideration of the size of charging stations that would be required to park 100's of trucks to recharge after 250 miles? I'm sure these things don't run on a single battery. How much extra weight would be added to what the truck is pulling just for the batteries. A truck is going to burn through batteries faster than the average Prius. What do we do with the tons of waste batteries will cause. Is this waste good for the environment? We didn't build interstates and then say let's build cars to drive on them. This stuff has to come along when it's ready not because it's mandated. Sri Lanka learned that hard way about going completely green. California has already had one government backed green folly in the High Speed rail that has tripled in cost, doesn't go anywhere and is way behind schedule. I'm all for cheap clean energy but you can't put the cart before the horse.
• twentyfive

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  2 years ago

  Strange how all this talk of green energy yet little mention of using biofuels, and refitting ICE vehicles to run on them, that's an easy bridge to cutting down on the use of fossil fuels.
• Muddy

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  2 years ago

  And they keep shutting down nuclear power plants in California which is the cleanest, most efficient energy out there.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  @ThatXGuy, the free market is the reason anyone gives a shit about the planet. Capitalism brought billions out of extreme poverty, freeing them to care about the impact they have. We see it on a lesser scale right now--even Democrats and self-identified liberals care more about reliable domestic energy than climate change. Want people to care about the environment? Give them a modern lifestyle and develop something better. The greens are more anti-progress than pro-environment.
• wld4tatas

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  2 years ago

  Capitalism brought billions out of extreme poverty... coupled with government action to ensure capitalism works for the many, not just the few, and does more good than harm.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  ^ Government action has been around for millennia. Capitalism has been around a couple centuries--the best couple centuries mankind has known.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Tetradon is the epitome of a house negro
• mike710

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  2 years ago

  If communism is the cure for capitalism, this is what you get. Another country with great unemployment though. [view link]
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  Icee is a woman beating, woman drug addicting, lying, thieving, manipulating, shit-stirring wannabe pimp who thinks progressive policies absolves him of being a horrible person. Oh, and he has an IQ in the seventies.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Tetradon you lie about me but I'm stating the truth about you.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  Icee, all you've said can be verified. You advocate beating and manipulating women. Getting them addicted to drugs. And stealing from grocery stores. Among other things. Meanwhile, "house negro" is an insult, not a fact. It's loser language for a minority who succeeds. You speak Loser so naturally.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Malcolm x would have called you a white man's nigger. The modern version of a house neuro. A historical fact. A description of your attitudes and behavior. Vs shit you and trolls make up about me 🤡
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  ^ LOL, you're speaking Loser again. That's who progressive racial politics attract, losers who need excuses for their failures in life. Take away any of their bluster, and you find a loser or a vulture who preys on losers.
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  Right wing extremism attracts self hating non whites who think the rich will throw them a few crumbs.
• Tetradon

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  2 years ago

  @ThatXGuy, you're missing the point. It's not "without it, profit is meaningless." It's that until our material needs are fulfilled, no one cares about climate. Climate change is way the fuck down the list of election priorities. [view link] In fact, in a different poll I posted elsewhere on the site, even self-described Democrats and liberals believe energy independence should be prioritized over climate change. Does that sound like people who believe "society is fucked" if we don't stop emitting carbon? Get out of your coastal liberal bubble, or at least read articles from people who have. It's called the Environmental Kuznets Curve, how industrialization leads to the growth but then the drop of emissions. Capitalism and the profit motive have brought billions out of extreme poverty. Deng's reforms after Mao speak for themselves. This "profit-less societal structure" wasn't great under Lenin or Mao. Those weren't too hot for the environment either.
• RiskA

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  2 years ago

  You really have to re-define “success” if you call the free market era a failure and non-industrial tribal socialism a success. Do more people live better lives now? Or in market economies vs North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.? Of course there’s issues created by increasing population & consumption, progress always raises new issues; the question is how to solve them, and whether the free market mechanism vs centralized planning by an “elite” works best. And on that I say look at the track record since the mid-16th century. I’m not a climate change denier, I just deny the efficacy of the solutions currently being urged by the true believers in this new religion of green wokeness whose unshakable belief in how things “should be” doesn’t pan out due to actual human nature & behavior (the things free markets take into account). Utopia is a journey, not a reward for purity in thought & deed.