Good Luck with those green semi trucks California

California used to be a red state, I always how fucking awesome that must’ve been. Talk about having it all.

*always think

Yes it was. I was born there in 1942 and left in 1987 before it went to shit.

Cali is the greatest republic

I think maybe the plan is to use hydrogen for larger vehicles.

“Science” also would dictate mandating everyone eat tofu rather than meat. The issue isn’t the science it’s more the mandate & the mandate’s Imperial authority basis. Why do “you” (thatXguy, the current administration, social media, etc.) get to decide what’s best for everyone else? Just because you/they don’t see value in pulling a trailer? I’d rather trust the invisible hand of a free market of decentralized individuals, far far more than the dictates of a ruling class whose first & foremost focus is power over others.

Shadowcat. You think social justice and sustainable development is going downhill. You also brag about fucking hookers younger than your granddaughter.

Muddy you're broke and cheap af. But support politics that hurt poor people like you

Mark. Mr 1 income is better than 2 and Trump won the election 🤡

my friends youngest daughter is stationed at Edwards AFB. She can't wait to get out of that shit hole state.

I'm all for cars that can run on water and extract hydrogen to power themselves and fart flowers out of the emission pipe. However, it's just not practical at this point.

Yes, trucks will run with Hydrogen Fuel cells but right now those trucks are 3 times as expensive as a diesel truck. When you look at the numbers that make it seems that one day these electric trucks will break even with diesel trucks, they have a "with incentives" attached to them. Somebody has to pay for these "incentives" for this to work. Whether that's trough higher product costs or a flat out tax on others.

Also, no numbers talk of more than a 250 mile range for electric trucks. So, if the trucks only run 100 miles and back that's fine. All these people making a living as long haul truckers will lose out. Also, the capital outlay for an independent trucker will be too much and only corporate trucking companies will exist in this new diesel free utopia.

Is there consideration of the size of charging stations that would be required to park 100's of trucks to recharge after 250 miles? I'm sure these things don't run on a single battery. How much extra weight would be added to what the truck is pulling just for the batteries. A truck is going to burn through batteries faster than the average Prius. What do we do with the tons of waste batteries will cause. Is this waste good for the environment?

We didn't build interstates and then say let's build cars to drive on them. This stuff has to come along when it's ready not because it's mandated. Sri Lanka learned that hard way about going completely green. California has already had one government backed green folly in the High Speed rail that has tripled in cost, doesn't go anywhere and is way behind schedule.

I'm all for cheap clean energy but you can't put the cart before the horse.

Strange how all this talk of green energy yet little mention of using biofuels, and refitting ICE vehicles to run on them, that's an easy bridge to cutting down on the use of fossil fuels.

And they keep shutting down nuclear power plants in California which is the cleanest, most efficient energy out there.

Capitalism brought billions out of extreme poverty... coupled with government action to ensure capitalism works for the many, not just the few, and does more good than harm.

Tetradon is the epitome of a house negro

If communism is the cure for capitalism, this is what you get. Another country with great unemployment though.

heritage.org

Tetradon you lie about me but I'm stating the truth about you.

Malcolm x would have called you a white man's nigger. The modern version of a house neuro. A historical fact. A description of your attitudes and behavior. Vs shit you and trolls make up about me 🤡

Right wing extremism attracts self hating non whites who think the rich will throw them a few crumbs.

You really have to re-define “success” if you call the free market era a failure and non-industrial tribal socialism a success. Do more people live better lives now? Or in market economies vs North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.? Of course there’s issues created by increasing population & consumption, progress always raises new issues; the question is how to solve them, and whether the free market mechanism vs centralized planning by an “elite” works best. And on that I say look at the track record since the mid-16th century. I’m not a climate change denier, I just deny the efficacy of the solutions currently being urged by the true believers in this new religion of green wokeness whose unshakable belief in how things “should be” doesn’t pan out due to actual human nature & behavior (the things free markets take into account). Utopia is a journey, not a reward for purity in thought & deed.