Women denied entry at Rachel's Orlando seek 2nd state Supreme Court hearing

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• iknowbetter

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  2 years ago

  Setting aside the constitutionality issue, I have seen instances where female customers in a strip club can be problematic, especially if the female customer is attractive and provocatively dressed. I once saw an unsuspecting PL get his ass beat in a club because he mistook someone’s date for a dancer.
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Single, white hetero males should invade every lesbian club, every night, for the same reason.
• whodey

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  2 years ago

  Gammanu95 how can you say "we need to ensure that people are not discriminated against because of race, gender, or creed" and that "A strip club should be able to bar solo women" in the same post? Those two statements are mutually exclusive since it is impossible for a club to ban women without discriminating based on gender. I don't care which side you come down on because I can see valid arguments for both but at least pick a side if you are going to post about it.
  
  Personally I don't think women should be banned from strip clubs whether they are alone, with other women or with a man. Every adult should have the chance to look at beautiful naked women if they so choose. Women who are lesbian, bisexuality or just unsure or curious should have the same chance to get turned on by hot strippers as the rest of us.
  
  Even if they are there to be turned on by women, how many times have members of this board told a woman that was considering becoming a dancer to go to her local clubs to see what they are like first? How can they do that if clubs ban women?
  
  As far as not letting women in without a man to prevent prostitution, all that does is make them bring either their pimp or their cuck boyfriend with them. I would rather have prostitutes in the club by themselves than with a pimp.
  
  As far as doing it to prevent a "Fuck You Jackie" or other harassment situation the solution is just to prosecute any women that cause that type of problem. That's no different than how they would handle a dancer's husband/boyfriend/father/brother or whoever was causing a problem at the club.
• gammanu95

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  2 years ago

  Maybe if you weren't such a fat bastard, you would be able to understand what I'm arguing. Your inability to understand complex, nuanced arguments is your problem, not mine.
  
  I don't believe that any business should discriminate. But maybe as a public service, fat bastards should only be allowed to order green salads, turkey wraps, and broths.
• whodey

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  2 years ago

  gammanu you argument is basically that businesses shouldn't discriminate unless you think they should discriminate. That isn't an argument it is simply being too insecure to admit that you promote discrimination so you want to cover your ass by saying you don't support discrimination.
  
  If you want to discriminate just have the balls to do so without trying, and failing, to cover your intentions with a statement about how you don't support what you lay out arguments in support of.
• gammanu95

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  2 years ago

  No, you dumb fuck, the argument is that private businesses can set policies, limits, and guidelines without violating anyone's civil rights. A business can reserve the right to refuse business to anyone for any reason without it being labeled discriminatory. You just want to cry bias and point fingers to virtue signal. I'm sorry, vlad, but there aren't nazis hiding under every rock.
• whodey

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  2 years ago

  "A business can reserve the right to refuse business to anyone for any reason without it being labeled discriminatory." So you wouldn't think it should be labeled as discriminatory if a business denied entry to people based on gender or race?
  
  I think we've identified the issue, you are too ignorant to know what discrimination means.
• skibum609

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  2 years ago

  Valid reason for banning single women. At Desires they ban headgear after 9:00 p.m.: psst its not directed at people like me.
• gammanu95

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  2 years ago

  So whodey is typically butthurt. When confronted with an issue or argument beyond their comprehension, a moron will react with fear, confusion, and frustration. This is normal and entirely expected. A true moron, like whodey, is unable to recognize what a moron they are; and will therefore project their limited intelligence onto others. Another indicator of being low-IQ is the inability to imagine that most around them are smarter, and able to comprehend the world in ways they cannot fathom.
  
  You're too stupid to understand what I'm trying to explain to you, and I'm too smart to waste more time trying to help you.
  
  Fuck off, fatboy.
• Papi_Chulo

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  2 years ago

  I generally don’t like SCs that have a lot of female custies, IME those clubs often become “watered down” and often turn more into nightclub(ish) party-clubs w/ often watered-down-mileage – for the most part women and men club differently – more often than not at the clubs I’ve been to w/ lots of women custies they seem to be mostly spectators that like watching the stage; listening-to (and sometimes dancing-to) the music; etc – IME rare to see them doing multiple trips to the LD-area or VIP (these have been my observations; I'm sure there are exceptions).
  
  Having said this, it does suck for those women that are genuine mongers and like to club like most of TUSCLers do b/c they o/w have limited to no options for SCing – given this I’d say it’s unfair to not let unescorted women in b/c it does suck for those women that like SCing like we do.
  
  AFAIK the main-objection of clubs w.r.t. unescorted women is b/c they fear working-girls will start using the club to pick-up guys there and thus cut-out the dancers.
  
• Papi_Chulo

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  2 years ago

  ^ and cut-out the club
• sinclair

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  2 years ago

  I know some clubs will not allow female patrons without a male accompanying them. In clubs I have been to where female patrons can come in alone or with a group of females, the women never seemed to cause problems. Typically, they were just bisexual or just wanted to have a fun night drinking and tipping the dancers. One of the clubs in Terre Haute has a lesbian regular. She is cool though because she drinks Busch, tips the stage, and acts like just another one of the guys. At a club in Wilkes-Barre, I met two college-aged girls who seemed to be laser focused on the stage show. I gave them a stack of singles to tip the stage. I think they were interested in becoming dancers and just figuring out how a strip club operates.
  
  The only time I have seen hookers near strip clubs was outside or in the parking lot, soliciting guys as they left or arrived to the strip club.
• racejeff

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  2 years ago

  As far as I know Clubs I’m n Indy allow single women in. I’ve seen mixed results but don’t can’t really say I’ve seen escorts looking for business. I have seen college girls grind on customers on a ladies free admission Thursday about 25 years ago. Brass Flamingo used to have a regular small group of lesbians attend. They were just regular customers. On the other hand stories I’ve heard from dancers about bridal parties at bachelorette parties make drunk young guys look good.
  
  Hiphugger in Kokomo now allows single women in but dancers aren’t allowed to give then dances so I’ve heard. But the old guy that owns the place used to be a list of discrimination practices. I remember the first time I saw a black guy get a lap dance there.
• Jascoi

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  2 years ago

  IMHO a lady should be allowed entry. I have no problem with it.