Ukraine and Taiwan Crises
Should the US develop Mach 8 air launched weapons to fly deep into China and destroy its missile launchers if it decided to invade Taiwan? And would this trigger an all out nuclear war?
And those Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles are the dream of military planners. That was how they wanted to defend West Germany against a Soviet onslaught.
As we seem headed towards war with Russia, are high tech weapons part of the problem? Or should we have even more of them, and of what type?
We seem to be moving closer to war with both Russia and China. Things have not been this tense since October 1962.
And 8500 US troops now on alert for possible deployment to Europe.
( at least now the news should finally stop talking about COVID and that so called vaccine )
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Taiwan has long operated independently of Beijing. If the US does not defend it, who keeps world peace? How can the US keep the peace between nuclear armed Pakistan and India, or anywhere else.
Only in more recent times has Beijing tried to control Taiwan.
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@SJG, this is how a friend with an international relations degree described it.
China sees Taiwan as part of itself. Xi Jinping needs nationalist fervor and economic growth to keep a lid on social dissent. So he's going to keep blustering.
But China wants Taiwan as a whole, Taiwan Semiconductor, all the economy intact. And Taiwan is willing to scorch the earth not to reunite. That means China is going to hold off until they're confident they can take the head off the government and keep everything intact. That might be a few years.
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That makes sense. Sounds like something similar is going on with Ukraine.
But I don't think we can depend on these super powers holding off. Things can happen when leaders play to nationalist fervor, and here in the US too.
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@SJG, Ukraine is a bit different. Different sort of Slavs, according to my friend. Though Russia is in a similar position of needing nationalist fervor.
Ukraine doesn't have a natural barrier like Taiwan does, so invading is easier.
I don't see a lot of nationalist fervor right now. Last time was the Iraq invasion in 2003. There's no appetite for another foreign conflict, and thankfully "make the world safe for democracy" can been well and scuttled.
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To me at least, in both scenarios it is led by people trying to improve their reputation by conquest.
If the US and its allies don't respond adequately it will open the door to disaster.
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^ Yes, though in different ways.
After Afghanistan, the US looks weak and feckless. We need to show we're not false allies.
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So we need to give an adequate response, and to work with allies.
Afghanistan was something Biden inherited from 3 past presidents.
THe longer we were there, the worse it was going to be. This Taliban came from the old Mujahedeen.
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^ We could have left in a less chaotic fashion. Dynamite the hardware. Evacuate our people first, and the military base last.
Leaving Afghanistan didn't have to be a clusterfuck, but it was.
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"We could have left in a less chaotic fashion"
That is also my view. But as the news was coming out was not the time to judge this. Books are and will be available. Anyone read any of them?
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Who cares! We have enough problems in our country to worry about. This is all just propaganda by our failure of a government trying to distract how bad the home front is and the justification of the ever expanding military budget.
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^^^^ So do you think we should let Ukraine and Taiwan be crushed? What would that do to our ability to keep peace, a role we have upheld for 75 years.
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LOL We've been bombing and sanctioning people around the world in the name of peace and democracy for the last 75 years. It's all bullshit and it only keeps the military industrial complex fat. Yet our public works, public schools, infrastructure, are all underfunded and falling apart.
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We really aren't sacrificing schools and other things. We have gutted our progressive income tax, under Reagan, and that has hurt our schools and infrastructure. The money goes into inflating the stock and real estate markets, to the financializes.
The upshot of winning WWII is that the US has military commitments all around the globe. If we fail in our charge, there will be all kinds of conflicts which could erupt, as well as Russia and China becoming major aggressors.
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Appeasement did not work in Munich in 1938, and it would not work today.
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^ You don't understand history for real, If we had not won the second world war, there would be no Russia, and China would be under the control of the Japanese, your life would be completely different from what it is, and many who are alive today would have perished in Hitler's concentration camps.
Yes we have military commitments all around the globe, what country would have, or could have maintained the peace that has mostly prevailed throughout Europe and Asia, and the America's, you really need to rethink what you are saying, because it is not only wrong in every way, it is a horrible thing to contemplate, if Hitler had prevailed.
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^^^^^ 25, not sure who you are speaking to.
I say that we have to protect the sovereignty of Taiwan and Ukraine, do you agree?
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My statement was in response to your claim that we have military commitments all over the globe, and the implication that there's a problem with this. I believe that we need to stand for not allowing aggressors to be able to change borders by using military force, so of course we need to support the Ukraine and Taiwan, but more importantly we need to stop Mr. Putin before his ambitions start a third world war, I don't think the Chinese are really feeling up to the task of conquering Taiwan, that would be a bloody conflict and I don't believe Xi has the stomach for that at this point, that might change at some time in the future but I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
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No, I do not think there is a problem with us having military commitments all over the globe. But it does mean that now we need to act. Yes, so we need to support Ukraine and Taiwan, so we are in agreement. And yes, we need to stop Putin.
I do not share your confidence that China is not going to try and beat Taiwan into submission.
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Our best option is for us to take over Ukraine ourselves, let's expand our sovereignty!
Mainland states are getting overcrowded, and we can ship all the illegal immigrants to Ukraine, it's a great place, I'm sure!
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Cowboy12, we are trying not to start World War III. Acting in concert with our allies is key to this.
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I think Putin is completely senile.
I hope Russia removes him.
They pretty much have to.
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It is reasonable that Putin is concerned about the expansion of NATO and, possibly, into Ukraine. The solution seems straightforward, though: The US guarantees that Ukraine will never be admitted into NATO in exchange for Putin guaranteeing that Russia will never invade Ukraine.
All that being, it is not a big deal if Ukraine is lost: they are a complete basket-case of a country. Putin has the stronger will and interests in this case, so if he wants it, it's his.
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The US does not control who is and who is not a part of NATO. And Putin's threating troop build up is making it just like Ukraine were a part of NATO.
I don't know why you call Ukraine a basket case. Economically it is doing quite well, and militarily they have been defending themselves bravely, taking 14,000 casualties since 2014.
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If the US does not work with allies to stop military aggression, then when and where will it stop, and what will this do to the tension situations throughout the world?
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@SJG countries need the unanimous agreement of existing members to be admitted to NATO. Thus the US has veto power by this alone. Now I am sure that they would not want to be the "odd man out" but they, no doubt, have lots of power to influence other members to also go their way regarding any membership decision.
As for it being a basket case: just look at its GDP/capita. The country is also riddled with corruption, although, on the plus side, this means it's GDP/capita is understating the wealth somewhat since so much is in its underground economy.
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Well, I guess then that is not really the policy of the US to use that veto.
Well the USSR recognized the independence of the Ukraine. And so the US should still uphold this.
Territorial aggression cannot go unchecked.
I do understand the Russian security concerns, but threatening and invasion cannot be allowed.
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Shailynn is only a junior in high school, but we can tell from his posts that he has got this down perfectly already:
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Democracy Now, very little talk about COVID, but talk about the Ukraine and calls to dissolve NATO. I think Joe Biden is doing a very good job of handling the Ukraine Crisis.
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@SJG definitely better if we can avoid war between Russia and Ukraine. I think there is a clear path to a negotiated settlement. Hopefully it is taken rather miss the opportunity in what would seem to be a completely unnecessary war.
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rdig, certainly we want to reach a negotiated settlement. But I for one say that we cannot let this kind of Russian Troop build up determine the outcome, and we cannot just let other states be overrun.
How do you feel about the idea that NATO should be dissolved?
I for one have long had a question about NATO expanding, and especially with the disbandment of the Warsaw Pact.
And NATO was originally proposed in the closing days of WWII as, "Christian West". It was always a means of perpetuating the Nazi Party and war against the Soviet Union.
And I know it was the 3 Baltic States, demanding independence, that destabilized Gorbachev. I have always had concerns about them. They only had national sovereignty during the between the wars period, and that was because Western powers wanted to weaken the Bolsheviks. Hebert Hoover was a big part of this.
This is after all still basically the Czar's Empire, which the Bosheviks, and now the Russian Federation are trying to hold on to.
There was a strong Nazi component in the 3 Baltic States, in Belarus, in the Ukraine, and in Hungary. There were Nazi SS aligned groups like Arrow Cross and Vlasov Army, and also Nazi aligned groups in Poland.
And it was Vice President Richard Nixon who was bringing holocaust perpetrators into this country under the Republican Ethic Outreach Organization. It was to "counter the Jewish vote" in the big cities.
Letting the Berlin Wall down, letting Germany re-unify, and the disbanding the Warsaw Pact and Soviet Control were positive, but there was also a problem exposed, that elements in all of these countries had fought on the Nazi side.
The Bolsheviks took over an empire which had cracks in it. And then anti-Communism has exacerbated this.
But most countries do have these kinds of internal fishers. This country certainly does.
Is the best thing to do now to disband NATO, and will this solve the problems?
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Newshour, several thousand US troops going to Eastern Europe, though not actually into Ukraine.
And this matter of COVID getting into the deer in Michigan has been long known.
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@SJG yes, I think you have a good point. The existence of NATO is making war more likely now.
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Yes, I agree with you.
But at this point, I think the situation has further escalated. Biden is saying that Putin planed to fake an attack from the Ukraine, and to show videos of bodies and blown up vehicles, and then to attack.
Hitler did that to Poland, 9/1/1939. They got Oscar Schindler to steal Polish army uniforms and then dressed a bunch of concentration camp inmates in them and machine gunned them.
At this point I feel that a land war could be inevitable.
Watch to see if Biden calls up reserves. They need the people with special technical skills, like helicopter maintenance. This all could be really bad.
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There is literaly no comparison between the imaginary "Ukraine crisis" and the China-Taiwan situation.
First off Russia is more or less a western free market democracy. China is literally a de jure Communist dictatorship. Putting aside the fact that Russia has zero interest in Ukraine other than protecting the Russian citizens in the Donbas, Taiwanese current way of life would be completely transformed under a Communist Chinese government which claims a right to rule Taiwan. Russia has never expressed any interest in Ukraine besides Crimea which is now a fully incorporated part of Russia after the Crimea people overwhelmingly voted to rejoin Russia. The "western" media and regimes literally lie to you about Russia and make false analogies with Taiwan. Stop being idiots.
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China operates under state capitalism. In terms of free market they are to the right of where American progressives would like us to be.
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Dave and rdig, we can't just sit idly by and watch Russia overrun Ukraine. That would destroy the peace and stability throughout Europe.
I think the Taiwan situation is more touchy because China has never acknowledged the independence of Taiwan. I relate the two situations because they are both places where war could break out with a strategic nuclear armed super power.
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@SJG: well I have already proposed what I think should be done. In return for a guarantee that Russia will not invade Ukraine the US promises that they will never be allowed to join NATO. I can't see how Putin turns that down.
I guess civilians can train to defend themselves and maybe make an occupation costly, but I still think Putin will be willing to pay the price versus risk Ukraine joining NATO. That 10x difference in defense spending between Russia and Ukraine says it all.
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That might make sense if that is a reasonable issue.
What difference does it make if Ukraine joins NATO?
But threatening the Ukraine Putin is making it just like it were part of NATO anyway.
Suppose Putin said that Ukraine couldn't be part of the UN?
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Ukraine joining NATO is nothing but a Red Herring, it's about mineral rights and money, my personal opinion is we should give the Ukraine some weapon systems that will make an invasion so costly, that Putin will shut up and just allow the matter to die down.
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^^^^^ I agree with 25.
I think it is also just pride, as Ukraine and all the Western nations that were part of Tzarist Russia were key in winning WWII, and so Putin does not want the to be separated on his watch.
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^^^^ Because this is so irrational and about pride, I think Putin is senile.
And then that intelligence saying that he was going to fake an attack from Ukraine, the suggests that Moscow is leaking and that there are people who want Putin out.
So they might try to make him resign. Or they could do like the hard liners did in the coup attempt against Gorbachev, use house arrest. Or it could go further.
What Biden is doing is right.
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No one is actively seeking war, except likely Putin.
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If Ukraine is part of NATO it means NATO weapons closer to Russia. It also means that Russia could not intervene to protect pro-Russian factions in Eastern Ukraine.
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Is a Peaceful Resolution Still Possible? Masha Gessen & Anatol Lieven on Ukraine, Putin & NATO
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Well we don't want Russia forcefully intervening in Ukraine. How would you like it if another country intervened here. There are ethnic fault lines in every country.
President Biden is proving to be a very level headed and centrist leader.
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Nuclear war with Russia, and with China are a possiblility. These matters are serious and President Biden, with his calm reflective style, is doing a very good job.
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"These matters are serious and President Biden, with his calm reflective style, is doing a very good job."
LOL.
Like abandoning our allies in Afghanistan so he could say he was out by the 20th anniversary of 9/11.
Like being compromised on several levels to the People's Republic of China.
Like getting humiliated by Xi in Alaska.
Like being wrong about every foreign policy issue for the last 40 years.
It's amusing to watch the left try to talk themselves into liking this sad old man.
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No POTUS would allow that sort of questioning. And no one wants war. President Biden is working hard to avoid war.
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Poll: Trump voters now twice as likely as Biden voters to say Russia-Ukraine conflict is 'none of America’s business'
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Ronald Reagan was right. Russia only respects strength.
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^^ At least for their top echelon of government and military I think that is true.
But I know that is not true of the Russian people, and it was not true of the two Russian dancers, one from St. Petersburg and one from Moscow, that we had at the Brass Rail. And it was not true of the lovelies at our From Russia With Love Massage Parlor.
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Ukraine situation sounds grim, invasion could be immanent.
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I think Putin surmised from Trump that NATO and the UN meant nothing. And then Trump pulled the troops out of that Krudish area of the Turkey-Syria border, as a favor to Eugduan, and to let Putin move in.
That was really stupid. And it showed that Trump was bought and that as he saw it, the US stood for nothing.
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Ukraine declares “day of unity” as invasion fears grow - BBC News
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Joseph Biden is doing extremely well.
Democrats did well in 1942 and 1962. They will also do well in 2022 and 2024!
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Joe Biden knocked it out of the ball park yesterday:
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The last thing the American Left wants is a war.
Dixie, you are spouting out points from Right Wing Non-sense News.
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"Joseph Biden is doing extremely well.
Democrats did well in 1942 and 1962. They will also do well in 2022 and 2024!"
LOL, that would be why 30 Dem House members are retiring rather than seek re-election.
Did your fingers spasm when you typed that?
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The 30 Dem House members retiring just create a liability, but I don't think this has in anyway been caused by President Biden. Also, if House Dems wanted they could replace Nancy Pelosi. Since they don't, they must still want her.
Biden knocked the ball right out of the park on Monday.
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Yep, right out of the park.
He's up to minus-12 in the RCP average!
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I'll give you credit, when confronted on your delusions, you don't back down an inch. Very Trumpian of you.
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You could tell from the reactions of the news crews that Biden had hit a home run.
It will take time for this to play out.
COVID hysteria was a stupid ass thing for the Democrats to endorse.
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When you're down 12-1 in the bottom of the sixth, it doesn't do wonders for your credibility to say "it will take time for this to play out."
The mainstream media will praise him for not shitting his pants onstage. Oh wait...
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Biden is not playing just for the poles, he is showing tremendous leadership in handling a crucial and very dangerous situation.
Despite Fox News, Biden's leadership will be appreciated as the situation further developes.
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"Despite Fox News, Biden's leadership will be appreciated as the situation further developes."
Opinion, not fact.
Here's what the rest of America thinks about his "leadership."
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But this is measured over time as the Ukraine situation plays out. The key move was in what Biden said, monday. Appreciation will come over time.
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Biden is too conservative. He killed extended unemployment killed the moratorium on evictions. Didn't fight for any of his legislation. Just let Manchin fuck it up and gave up. Gave up on pandemic mitigation efforts coz of pressure from them private sector to put their profits before people. And now he wants WW3.
He promised that things wouldn't change much... he kept that promise.
I think the US is moving towards the direction where people want populist policies regardless of their political spectrum. Those supporting the system as is and yhe status quo are just dinosaurs.
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"Appreciation will come over time."
That's what all my conservative friends are saying about Trump. Once we're not putting up with his grating accent and Twitter, we'll see the positive results of his policies.
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So I guess on both counts we will see.
But there was nothing constructive in what Trump did or talked about , nothing. It was like George Seldes said of Mussolini's economics, no plan, no theory, nothing, just a spoils system.
Trump's doctrine was just a plan for stealing money, nothing else.
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^ Personally, I don't think Trump gave two shits about policy. He already has enough money. It's all about his legacy and self-aggrandizement. Hence why he went through cabinet secretaries faster than ex-wives and girlfriends.
But incomes grew, and great progress was made in the Middle East. And even if you're not a fan of stocks, that's what funds most Americans' retirements.
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Nothing good happened during Trump's admin. It was all just boosting. And well sure there can be economic measures of that, but this does not mean anything good was happening.
What causes the busts?
The booms cause the busts, over production and over consumption.
Hard to stop a bust once it starts, but we can decline to support the booms and that will make the coming bust lighter.
Far more efficient to pay for the needs of pensioners out of current tax revenues than via securities speculation. We need that money which inflates the stock market to be incirculation. This is what creates jobs and business opportunities. With money going into a ponzi scheme we all lose out.
A fierce indictment of the Wealth Creation scam. This costs us all greatly, as people are just inflating themselves out of their own lives, working to support the 1%
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Newshour Today, seem to be problem on the Ukraine border:
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LOL, again with the moving definition of "good." Why don't you think increasing income among the lower quartiles is a good thing?
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Overall the quality of employment is declining, decent jobs being replaced by shit jobs.
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Russia, Ukraine 'on the cusp of an all-out conflict', warns Dutton | 9 News Australia
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This Australian news makes the situation look really bleak. Hope it is not so.
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WATCH: U.N. Security Council meets to discuss Ukraine-Russia conflict 6 1/2 hours
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Biden: Moscow has moved "more troops" toward the Ukrainian border | DW News
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'Still time to avoid a catastrophe' | Boris Johnson says Russia-Ukraine situation is 'very grim'
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Russia could launch attack on Ukraine in ‘days’ - amid reports of shelling
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WATCH: Biden provides an update on the Ukraine-Russia military crisis 2/18 ( takes 1 1/2 hour before Biden appears, gets going around 2pm Pacific Time. Biden does very well, and he is brief.)
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Russia Announces Nuclear Drills As Tensions With Ukraine Intensify
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A Call for Peace: Russian & U.S. Women Push for Diplomacy, Not Military Action, to Resolve Crisis
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Putin is senile. His actions are all about pride. It is not that his security concerns are completely unfounded, but his approach to this goes no where.
With the amount of intelligence coming out, I think Moscow must be leaking, and that means that some people want Putin out. As this intensifies, so will their commitment to remove him.
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Who's telling the truth on the Ukraine conflict? | Inside Story Al Jazeera
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PM warns of a "global shock" that will accompany an invasion of Ukraine, Boris Johnson
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US says threat of Russia invading Ukraine 'very high' | DW News, Joe Biden
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Is Biden’s Ukraine Strategy Working? w/ Alexander Vindman
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Ukraine is 'longing for peace' says Zelensky at Munich Security Conference • FRANCE 24 English
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Ukraine-Russia Crisis - LIVE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE (Invasion Imminent?)
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Zelenskyy wants sanctions against Russia to start immediately.
Ukraine Crisis: Putin oversees nuclear military exercise
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Ukraine Crisis: On the frontline as 'incoming artillery becomes more intense'
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The Dems are using the issues with Russia and China. To hide how bad they are destroying this country.
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bang69, the US has held an obligation to preserve world peace for 75 years. Trump did not understand this, but fortunately he is out. And the Republicans are siding with Biden and the Democrats.
Icey, during WWII the Baltic States, Belarus, and Ukraine had people who sided with the Nazis and became part of Hitler's SS and part of the holocaust and persecuted their own people the same way. So these are sensitive areas. But the US still has to keep the peace, and by force if necessary.
Putin Recognizes Ukraine Separatists; Khrushchev’s Great-Granddaughter Says War Can Still Be Avoided
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This is totally fucked!
Suppose someone said they were going to recognize South Carolina and Mississippi and send troops?
Sanctions have to start now. Biden has to take further actions, and Biden is handling this well.
Biden today: (Washington Post)
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Biden is being decisive. He is the total opposite of Trump, who egged Putin on when he pulled the troops off of that spot on the Turkey - Syria border. And Biden is not to be baited, he is not like Pharaoh before Moses and Aaron.
One would not normally bring large military ships in to the Black Sea. Going through that Bosporus is dicey, and they are very vulnerable to air attack, even the submarine.
In 1962 Kennedy found another way. He quarantined Cuba. This was really a blockade, an act of war, but Kennedy did not call it that.
Quarantine Putin in the Black Sea. Turkey and Greece are NATO members. Make them host land aircraft.
And Putin actually brought attack transports in? Those are just giant sardine cans. You can't keep troops on those for any length of time. Where does Putin plan to load his troops?
Moscow seems to be leaking, and that means that people want Putin out. One of those Javelin Missiles can turn a Russian tank into a steel coffin. Rather than face sanctions and body bags coming home, and over a war which is just about pride, opponents will remove Putin.
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^^^ SJG, if your claiming to not be a full time tuscl poster, how come you have more than 40,000 comments which are way more than any other active user? Seems to be quite a big inconsistency you’re showing from what you say and what is truth. Fact is you post almost every day until library closing hours from noon until 5:30 pm.
If you really were busy and had responsibilities you wouldn’t be constantly on this website every day, except for the days the library is closed. If you really followed through on your so called responsibilities you’d have started that organization you say you’re building. At current count there is one person that n your organization, because you couldn’t hold onto your other partner, Maritise. The ex wife who left you!
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NATO countries respond to Putin, prepare for war in Ukraine I ABCNL
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Ukraine crisis: billionaires & banks sanctioned after Russia ‘invasion’
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Franklin Roosevelt had served two terms before he ever had to face anything like this. But the voters saw that there was a cauldron boiling, and so they gave him a 3rd term.
Imagine if someone recognized South Carolina and Mississippi, and then said they were sending troops.
President Biden is trying to avert WWIII.
The League of Nations tried to avert WWII, and they were able to delay it. But the League was always hamstrung because the Republicans, following Henry Cabot Lodge, would never allow the US to become a member.
Appeasement does not work.
President Kennedy quarantined Cuba. Really this was a blockade, but he did not call it that.
One would not normally bring large military ships into the Black Sea. That Bosporus is always dicey. Even the submarine would be extremely vulnerable to air attack.
Biden should quarantine the Black Sea, nothing goes in or out. Turkey and Greece are NATO members. Make them host land aircraft.
And Putin has actually brought in attack transports. Those are just giant sardine cans. You can't keep troops on them for any length of time. From where is he planning to load his troops?
Moscow is leaking a lot of information, and this means that people want Putin out. He does not like Lenin, does not like revolution, and he thinks Russia was better under the Czars. But he likes Stalin. This guy is completely senile, and he will be removed.
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Kinda reminds me ofbthe US and Nato recognizing Kosovo and threatening to invade Serbia again.
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Slobodan Milošević was an ex-communist who decided to build a political career on the basis of ethnic cleansing. The US and NATO needed to act, and we did act.
This Valdimir Putin is staring to look more and more like Milošević.
Live: White House holds briefing on Russia-Ukraine situation (Jen Psaki)
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What does a Ukrainian state of emergency mean for the Russia-Ukraine crisis? - BBC News
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ABC News Live: Ukraine military warns situation with Russia may deteriorate soon
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BREAKING: Pentagon URGENT Press Briefing on Report Russia is Poised to Attack Ukraine
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“Truly Appalling”: Russia Attacks Ukraine as Putin Ignores Diplomatic Pleas and Launches Invasion
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Panic, Fear, Disbelief: Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine Could Prompt Humanitarian, Refugee Crisis
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Yanis Varoufakis: Europe Must Stand with Ukraine, Condemn Putin & Roll Back NATO to Restore Peace
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Nuclear War Risk Rises as Tension Mounts Between Nuclear Superpowers over Ukraine
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“Pick Up the Pen, Joe”: Biden Faces Pressure to Cancel Student Debt to Fulfill Campaign Promise
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LIVE: Boris Johnson delivers statement on Ukraine
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LIVE: UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson delivers statement on Ukraine in HoC
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WATCH LIVE | Biden delivers remarks on Russian assault on Ukraine (WP)
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Biden speaks about Russia's war in Ukraine (euro news)
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Ukraine President Warns Russian Forces Attempting To Seize Chernobyl Nuclear Facility (MSNBC)
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Russia Attacks Ukraine: Pres. Biden delivers remarks on invasion ordered by Putin | ABC News
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This Al Jazeera LIVE news seems to offer the best blow by blow account:
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BREAKING: PM warns of 'grim days ahead for Ukraine'
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BREAKING: EU to cut off some Russian banks from SWIFT
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President Joe Biden commits additional military assistance to Ukraine
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Mayor of Ukrainian city posts plea: ‘Help me!’
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MEPs debate Russia's invasion of Ukraine, streamed 8 hours ago, 3 hours long
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There's no way Vladimir Putin wins, even if he defeats Ukrainian military: Sen. Rubio
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Coming Up: United Nations General Assembly emergency meeting on Ukraine - Day 2 | DW News
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Russia continues country-wide attack on Ukraine
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Bombing and fighting in Kyiv - BBC News
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Gravitas: Ukraine war enters Day 6: Here are the latest developments (1hr ago) "If Ukraine does not survive, the United Nations will not survive". I am sure this is true. Russia was a Veto Power Permanent Member of the Security Council
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Under very bleak conditions, Biden has exerted tremendous leadership!
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As Russia charges across Ukraine, can the West stop a more expansive conflict?, Douglas Lute, 4 days ago
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Russia planning a devastating attack to “crush Ukraine” l ABCNL (1hr ago)
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Why the war in Ukraine could get 'much more brutal' in the days ahead, Liet. General Douglas Lute ret. (20 hours ago)
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It looks like they are planning to incinerate Kiev with these thermobaric weapons.
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VOX From spy to president: The rise of Vladimir Putin 4 years ago
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‘My future is taken away from me’: Russians flee to escape consequences of Moscow’s war
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Nato opposes pleas for No Fly Zone
Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
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NATO’s Stoltenberg tells FRANCE 24 Russia's warning to Finland, Sweden 'unacceptable' (France 24 English 7hrs ago)
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Ukrainians strike massive Russian convoy, Pentagon says (CNN 1 hr ago) (Ukrainians blew up a bridge to stop the Russian convoy)
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A Bayraktar TB2 Strikes Again, Hundred Russian Tanks Were Destroyed Near Ukraine Capital Kyiv! (2 hours ago)
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Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
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Russia’s Unprecedented Shelling of Ukrainian Nuclear Plant Raises Fears of Another Chernobyl
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Republicans, Democrats slam Lindsey Graham after he calls for Putin's assassination (Russians have brought crematoriums with them)
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This could be another way, besides quarantine on the Black Sea and No Fly Zone, for outside military forces to enter this.
Russian Environmentalist Speaks Out on Putin’s Attack on Antiwar Protesters & Independent Media
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Ukrainian American Journalist: Putin’s Unjust War Is Emboldening Ukraine’s Far-Right Movement
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The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine Is Like Something From A Movie: Peter Zalmayev (MSNBC)
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On board a Nato surveillance plane monitoring Russian activity in Ukraine - BBC News (Boeing 707)
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I don't know how old this footage is, but I think these hotties are airline flight attendants. With them Putin sits close, and in the middle of the table edge, not at the head of the table. They listen attentively. They aren't like the Pussy Riot girls.
Russian helicopter shot down by missile in Ukraine - BBC News
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The conflict in Ukraine is still going on, and Putin is not our yet.
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He seems to be an executioner. Ukraine now needs more than just these defensive anti-tank missiles, they also need tanks of their own so that they can make offensives.
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Gravitas LIVE with Palki Sharma | Chinese troops "practice" how to invade Taiwan | English News
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Biden has been involved in arbitrating the relationship with Taiwan.
I know the White House is trying to walk this back. But Joe Biden is not Donald Trump. If he says something, he means it.
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SJG is this why you want your old threads to stay open, so you can continue to have conversations with yourself, all the while members chime in by snickering and poking fun at your expense?
Then yiu can feel victimized and call everyone trolls, an option straight from Icee’s playbook.
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HeyMeat, the creep can do what he wants even though most members here don't like his antics.
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I told you so, hypersonic weapons, arms race with Russia and China.
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Should we really do it, and how aggressively do we go into it. And are their any limits?
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Dr. Mark Esper, former Defense Secretary: Lessons from Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
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A Pelosi Visit to Taiwan Could Inflame Tensions Between U.S. & China, with Little Benefit to Taiwanese
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Gravitas LIVE: Tensions over Taiwan| Xi tells Biden: Don't play with fire| China threatens the U.S. (Indian News)
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Nancy Pelosi lands in Taiwan despite China warning US will 'pay the price' - BBC News
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Tensions rise between the U.S. and China after Pelosi's trip to Taiwan
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China announces new military drills off Taiwan
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H.R. McMaster on China-Taiwan tensions, and the dynamics of working in the Trump administration
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Taiwan tensions: Could Taiwan defend itself against China?
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China releases white paper on Taiwan, warns it will not tolerate separatists | Latest English News
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China ready to use 'all means necessary' to ensure 'reunification' with Taiwan: Xiao Qian
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China drills part of invasion game-plan — Taiwan
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"We will not allow China to isolate Taiwan."
Speaker Pelosi: "We will not allow China to isolate Taiwan" | full video 39min
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News Night | Taiwan's President says China military threat still remains
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Taiwan rejects China's 'one country, two systems' plan | Latest International News | WION
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92% Collapse As Chinese Housing Crisis Bleeds Into Financial Sector | Taiwan | China Economy
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Japan Ambassador says China's Taiwan actions 'shocking' | 9 News Australia
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PBS Newshour today, 3pm PST
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Electric Light Orchestra - Telephone Line - Chicago School of Rock
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Dio - Rainbow In The Dark - Team 1 2016 School of Rock AllStars
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How the firearms industry markets to consumers
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Democracy Now, Friday Aug 12
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China’s Taiwan military drills offer spying opportunity for US | China Taiwan News
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See why some Chinese are thanking Pelosi for her visit to Taiwan
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Taiwan representative: A question of 'if not when' China will attack (DW German News)
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Taiwan rejects China's 'one country, two systems' plan | Latest International News | (WION Indian News)
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Taiwan pay rises can’t keep up with inflation | Taiwan News | RTI
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Could the United States defend Taiwan if China were to attack it? Research director weighs in
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Why China Can't Invade Taiwan? Shiv Aroor Explains The Reasons
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War in Ukraine: Is there still time to de-escalate? | To The Point (4 days ago, DW (German))
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^ is Germany going to send its tanks (Leopard II, 1500hp)
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