Politicians as heroes
When people see politicians as heroes, is that really any different than seeing sports figures as heroes? Seems like a lot of the emotional needs involved are similar. Political hero-worship gets more self-righteous, so more bitterness and possibly violent. But then you can also see sports fans violence, if one side feels like the other side won because of an uncalled foul.
Why are so many people so sure they have the perfect answers to political issues? People naturally have their own individual goals and dreams, but society can't exist if we don't make sacrifices to support it. Politics is mostly about trying to find the balance between those two things. In thousands of years, no society has found the exact right balance, so it seems very delusional when people foam at the mouth claming they know for sure the answer to this.
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last commentNeither politicians nor sports figures are heroes. They're people with jobs. Some are better at their job than others.
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Anyone who looks at politicians or athletes is a fucking moron. Anyone who believes anyone in uniform is default a hero is a fucking moron. Most successful politicians got their success by being connected and being ruthless sharks. Very, very few politicians succeed through honesty and hard work.
George W Bush - family connections.
Biden - ruthless shark with a lifetime of connections.
Trump - ruthless shark with connections
Obama - ruthless shark with connections
Clinton - ruthless shark with connections. Why was he invited to the Bilderberg Group if he as a nobody governor from Arkansas in 1991?
At least Bush 41 had fought in WW2, even being shot down by the Japanese in combat over the Pacific, but he still came from a very privileged family of east coast Elites.
Most athletes are bitchy little babies, and I don't need to explain the vast difference between a hero and an athlete.
I can not think of a president since Eisenhower who had established himself as a hero prior to entering politics.
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“ In thousands of years, no society has found the exact right balance, so it seems very delusional when people foam at the mouth claming they know for sure the answer to this.”
^ I agree. There is what we know, what we don’t know and what we don’t know that we don’t know. We would do well to keep the third one in mind. Sometimes I’ve thought I had the right answer. And then felt foolish when I realized I’d not considered everything I should have.
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^ you shouldn’t feel foolish, rather you should keep font of mind is there is a constant effort being made by all politicians to deceive us intentionally, the truth is that some are more skilled and better at creating the deception than others.
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I'd rather see a top athlete as a hero than any politician. Not that being an athlete makes one a hero--far from it--but modern politicians are pit vipers. Skilled liars. Sociopaths. For every Lincoln or Cincinnatus, there are a hundred Trumps and Bidens.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve."
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it."
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^ you forgot about Stalins assertion
“It matters not who votes, it only matters who counts the votes”
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@25, there are a million quotes to that end.
That's why "inspirational" politicians like Trump and Obama scare the shit out of me. We have to hold them in check, not fall under their sway.
I want the most boring, competent manager to run the executive branch.
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^ Competence is always a welcome quality in an executive, but sadly very few voters recognize this trait, seems to me that many confuse ideology with competence.
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My Catholic high school history teacher, a priest, gave us this quote.
"Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save."
Religious or not, it rings true.
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Some politicians are heroes. Robespierre, Zapata, FD Roosevelt, AOC, Sanders, Castro, Lenin, Mandela, et al They become people's heroes by what they do for the people.
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^ There goes Icey trying to stir the pot again.
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What's the difference between heroes and villains? Like 20 years?
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Many have long seen Franklin Roosevelt as a hero.
He was the most progressive and visionary President we have ever had.
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If Margaret Thatcher was involved Ronald Reagan didn’t do it single handedly
Tell me do you proof read what you post or are you really that stupid
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Bernie Sanders is closer to a Nazi than a hero. He also supported castro, the Ayatollah and Hugo Chavez.
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@skibum, don't forget Sanders' honeymoon in the USSR.
Leftists seem to think the rest of us have short memories. Like when The Nation called Hugo Chavez' Venezuela a democracy. They're too busy screaming TRUMP!!!! to admit they fucked one up.
General rule on any moral decision, if you find yourself on the same side as Icey, it's time to reconsider.
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Hugo Chávez is a hero too. And Putin.
If Reagan were alive today he'd be a laughing stock. But they didn't have access to info back then the way we do now.
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^ You're fucking retarded, right now Putin is looking more and more like Hitler, with his annexation of Crimea, and preparing to invade the Ukraine, if we end up in a war it's going to be nasty, it's not going to be over quickly and it will resemble WWII with much of Europe becoming involved against Russia.
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No nation has started and brokered more wars of aggression than the US. Were in no position to tell anyone what to do.
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Except shit like you ain't part of we Icey. You dirty rat fuck.
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Calling Hugo Chavez a hero disqualifies your opinion on politics.
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Politicians aren't heroes. They just aren't.
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Qaddafi was a hero as well. Mossadegh. Manuel Andres Lopez Obrador.
There are plenty heroes out there.
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^fucking losers
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Why would a true hero want to become a politician? Nobody who gets involved in politics, gets out without becoming a little dirty.
Athletes aren’t heroes either. Their on field performances can be inspirational, but they are not heroic. One of the true heroes, who happened to be a professional athlete, was Pat Tillman.
If an athlete works in a charity and helps others, off the field, he is a very good person. But heroes risk everything, and they don’t expect anything in return. They aren’t doing something heroic and looking for a spotlight.
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Who is Brandon?
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^ Biden
Speaking of which
^^ Go away, Cacaplop
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With China and Russia about to blow, Biden is well on his way to becoming a reluctant hero.
SJG
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Back when I was a kid, politics was debated and issues were discussed.
Sports were screamed about and your team could do no wrong.
And then Rush apparently couldn't find a job calling football games anymore.
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If Joe Biden can handle these Ukraine and Taiwan crises, he will be a hero. Now less so than John F. Kennedy was because of his handling of the Cuban Crisis.
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