OT: TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BINARY / NON BINARY BULLSHIT

rattdog
New York
i'm now watching the big sky. as i was watching the beginning they show the opening credits. i see the name jesse james keitel. so my first reaction is, oh - harvey keitel has a kid acting in this show?

so i google jesse james dupree and click under wikipedia. ok not harvey's kid.

Jesse James Keitel is an American actor, writer, and artist.[1] They are best known for starring in Asher Jelinsky's short film Miller & Son (2019), which won the BAFTA Student Film Award and Gold Medal for "Best Narrative" (Domestic) at the 2019 Student Academy Awards.[2][3] In March 2020, Keitel was cast in a lead role in Big Sky, an ABC crime-drama created by David E. Kelley.[1]


Originally from Long Island, Keitel now lives in New York City where they graduated from Pace University with a BFA in Acting in 2015.[4] They were honored in Out Magazine's OUT100 in 2018 for their portrayal of queer characters in the Ben Stiller-produced Netflix film Alex Strangelove and as TV Land's first non-binary character on Younger.[5][6]

In 2019, Keitel starred in the world premiere of Martin Moran's play Theo at Two River Theater.[7] Keitel plays the leading role in the upcoming MadRiver Pictures sci-fi series, Forever Alone.[4] They also appear in Linda Yellen's 2019 Showtime feature film Fluidity, starring Nico Tortorella.[1]

Keitel often performs in drag under the pseudonym Peroxide, a member of the Haus of Femanon.[8] As Peroxide Femanon, Keitel has appeared in LOGO TV's Fill In The Blank docu-series and in Sasha Velour's NYFW SS19 collaboration with Opening Ceremony.[9][8][10]

Keitel is non-binary and uses she/her and they/them pronouns.[1][11] Big Sky made them the first nonbinary actor to play a nonbinary series regular on primetime television.[12] [13]

so i have to ask, who the fuck is they? this is one person, whom i am assuming is a naturally born female. not one of those who gradually and scientifically transformed into one. does this one person somehow pull out a duplicate of oneself out of the asshole in order to make it technically they?

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PaulDrake
4 years ago
I am not going to get into the debate of the validity of non-binary. But I will say one thing that surprised me. When it comes to gen Z aged kids the amount of people who are trans or non-binary is 200 times higher than the general population. And specifically with genZ aged girls there has been a 4000% increase in the last few years of them requesting gender transition treatment (hormones, surgery, etc) from doctors.

It's interesting to me that this massive uptick isn't being talked about.
jackslash
4 years ago
Let me understand. You got the hen, the chicken and the rooster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MCtC_U4…
Cashman1234
4 years ago
It’s bizarre for one person to use they as a pronoun. Unless this odd person has multiple personalities, she should use she. However, this is an actress who thinks she’s special, and she thinks using these stupid pronouns will make her a more unique snowflake.
datinman
4 years ago
If I meet new people at a party, there is better than a 90% chance I won't recall their names later that evening. There is 100% certainty that I won't memorize their preferred pronouns.
I am not trans-phobic. I don't care what you wear, where you pee, or who you fuck. Honestly, there is just not enough room left on the old hard drive to store this kind of meaningless shit.
doctorevil
4 years ago
If “they” don’t like gendered pronouns, they should use “it.”
rattdog
4 years ago
you all do realize where all this in holllyweird is heading right? for each film/tv show studio heads are going to order their casting directors to hold auditions to have a token it on the cast. if not it could be considered wayyycistt.
misterorange
4 years ago
^^ @rattdog
Yeah, I could see that happening. But sooner or later this silliness has to stop. Personally, I haven't been to a movie theater in at least 5 years, and I don't pay for premium cable channels or rent movies. I just can't see giving even one dollar of my money to support a bunch of Hollywood weirdos who are contributing to the destruction of normalcy. If there's a movie I'd like to see, it's not a priority among other things I could do for entertainment, so I'll wait until it comes on regular TV someday and do chores around the house during commercials.

If it gets to the point of what you described (every movie and every show having a "they" or using terms like "sie, zie, hirself, zirself") I can see the industry taking a pretty big hit financially. It's hard to imagine any more than 10 - 15% of the potential audience would tolerate that and continue watching. It's like gay porn. I don't have anything against it, but I just don't want to see it... ever. And if they made it hard to avoid, say like if they started putting two guys sucking each other's dicks into every single porn scene, well I'd just have to revert back to my old DVD collection. Still some pretty good stuff there.
skibum609
4 years ago
Weird world where mental illness is the norm. So glad I am old lol.
TheeOSU
4 years ago
As I said in another thread, I don't know what's worse, the morons that dream this stuff up or the news outlets that report and buy into it.
Sad times we're living in. :-(
georgmicrodong
4 years ago
Yeah, I hate all these people that want to be called Bob or Rob instead of their true given name Robert. Their preferences are stupid, they should happy with what I call them.
shailynn
4 years ago
“Hey dickhead” “no my name is Robert” “well I’m naming you dickhead!” Lol
gammanu95
4 years ago
Ellen Page was fucking hot. She had a great natural rack on a tight little bod. Now, she has proclaimed her self trans, non-binary, and calls herself Elliot. She deserves to be charged with crimes against humanity.

Hilariously, her wife and her divorced after she finalized trying to call herself a man.
misterorange
4 years ago
My parents were both born in America and grew up in the 60's, but they were not "hippies." My dad was 1st generation American (his parents from Germany) and my mom "technically" 2nd generation. My maternal grandmother came over from Poland "in her mother's belly." My parents were the children of LEGAL immigrants who worked their asses off to make a decent life for our family.

The "hippies" of the 60's were the product of many generations of Americans, who were spoiled and knew nothing of what it takes to forge a life for your family, or the horrors endured by their distant ancestors. They just wanted to drop acid, fuck like rabbits, and listen to music, for the rest of their lives. Spoiled brats, but most of them reached their 30's, woke up to reality, and found their way. They weren't total freaks, just kids exploiting the political environment to have some fun. Their parents didn't support their behavior, and in the end they said, "My parents were right." (Well, maybe except for Willie Nelson.)

The difference is that modern-day "hippies", nonconformist radicals, who think it's cool to challenge the forces of nature by claiming they are a different sex than what they were born with (just because it's fun for them??? WTF?) are being supported by the government for political reasons. Their parents would love to alter this behavior, but they'd be labeled as abusive parents. So instead we have gender transformation actions being administered to five-year-old boys the first time they play with their sister's dolls.

PaulDrake made an interesting point (above), "When it comes to gen Z aged kids the amount of people who are trans or non-binary is 200 times higher than the general population." Well, is this because human beings have suddenly mutated into something different, or is it because society has become so weak and "politically correct" that the modern-day "hippies" are being used as political pawns, to garner votes for Democrats? Nobody in their right mind believes this shit is real. If it is, it's one in ten million who has a legitimate claim. And they should be treated psychiatrically and medically (if necessary) without all the fanfare and celebration. As always with Democrats, it's the tail wagging the dog.
Muddy
4 years ago
Yeah PaulDrake I know Abigail Shrierer was on Joe Rogan and she was talking about exactly this phenomenon. She talks about out how parents who have the nerve to question it are bullied by woke doctors. It’s like a cult. Her book is Irreversible Damage. This country is fucked.
rattdog
4 years ago
whatever happened to the stern but effective parental, "hey knock that off" to shake up the kid's mind away from that kind of thinking? sending a kid to the corner for a timeout isn't going to help.

do parents even practice timeputs with their kids anymore? i haven't even heard of that in a while.
misterorange
4 years ago
^^ rattdog
I don't think I ever heard "hey knock that off" from my Dad without a belt hitting me just after. Once he slammed me into a refrigerator so hard that it was permanently dented on the front, and years later we laughed like hell together looking at it. I never blamed him for beating my ass because I always knew I was wrong and had it coming to me. At 16 I raised my fist to my Dad once... once! First and last time. He died 19 years ago and I still miss him every day. I wish I was half the father to my kids that he was to me.

These days parents aren't really "parents" anymore. If they strike their child for discipline they get arrested, or sued by the child. Some encourage their kids to go out and cause mayhem in the community because they feel sorry for themselves and want vengeance against the country that offered them every opportunity to succeed, but they still failed. And government supports both of these things, because total chaos is what makes government bigger and more powerful.

Time outs? This country was fucked once "time outs" became the thing.

Dave_Anderson
4 years ago
There are some bright spots in a world "gone stark raving mad." Here's a small white pill...

https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/02/…
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