Rape?

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shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
A British man has been sentenced to four years in prison for rape after he pricked a hole in a condom before sex — an act his victim branded “pure evil,” according to court reports.

Andrew Lewis, 47, was caught after his partner found a pin alongside condoms with holes in them in a bedside drawer — and then a damaged used condom in the trash, according to the Worchester News.

“He told police he had hoped the condom would split and it would improve the intimacy,” prosecutor Glyn Samuel told Friday’s sentencing at Worcester Crown Court.

“He said it was the stupidest thing he has ever done.”

Lewis made it clear he did not want to impregnate his partner — who was not named for legal reasons — but hoped she would “change her mind” about insisting he wore protection, his defense attorney, Lynette McClement, said.

Lewis was sentenced to four years behind bars after admitting rape at a hearing in July, the paper said.

Judge Nicholas Cole called it a “breach of trust” after his partner made it clear she only consented to sex if protection was used.

“The offense of rape is so serious a custodial sentence is appropriate,” Cole told Lewis, according to the report.

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SomeAsianGuy
4 years ago
Let a woman do that and you get to pay child support for 18 years.
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nicespice
4 years ago
Hmm, unprotected sex does carry more risk for females than males. As far as potentially receiving STIs. That dude I would agree is a scumbag.

Four years seems a bit much though? Well okay if abortion was illegal, then I’d maybe say it’s fair. But otherwise I think 6mo-1 yr is good enough. Possibly less? Just the “sex offender” branding will give him the full weight of consequences. Any sentence length too long will probably keep him out of mainstream society for too long and make him unemployable. When he’s probably not that much a hazard as far as the general populace is concerned.
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pistola
4 years ago
That’s sick.
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jackslash
4 years ago
Did that guy even have a lawyer? You would think any halfway competent lawyer could argue you out of this.
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PutaTester
4 years ago
What he did was despicable, but she did consent to have sex, so he should not be charged with rape. Fraud? Product tampering? Assault with a friendly weapon?
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
This may set a dangerous precedent.

What this guy did was horrible - and it deserves punishment. But the length of the sentence seems excessive.

The act was premeditated, and it’s not like a condom accidentally broke during intercourse.
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whodey
4 years ago
Far from the first time someone has been convicted of something like this. I'm not aware of any cases in the US but there have been other convictions in Europe and Canada, usually they involve the guy removing the condom but a few have dealt with intentionally damaging the condom.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/stealthin…

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/20/healt…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world…

It basically comes down to the fact that just because she agrees to one sexual act (sex with a condom) doesn't mean she agreed to another act (sex without a condom) automatically.
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whodey
4 years ago
No but if you say you want to wear a condom in an attempt to avoid procreation and in the middle of having sex she reaches down and pulls the condom off and shoves you back in her you could claim she raped you.
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Icey
4 years ago
Its a nonconsensual sexual activity so yeah its rape
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
There was a thread last week where some one bragged about their high body count. i countered if you are not allowed to cum in the vagina its just masturbation. This is the reason why, to avoid fake rape accusations. Raw sexs minimizes your exposure to a women, calling regret sex rape. Most of the time she wont want to have sex with you because she doesn really like you.
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
Icey youre pretty retarded, theres still a posibilty of a women getting pregant if you wear a condom. if the condom breaks and she gets pregnant is that rape too? youre an idiot icey
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wiffle shwaffle
4 years ago
"What he did was despicable, but she did consent to have sex, so he should not be charged with rape. Fraud? Product tampering? Assault with a friendly weapon?"

Are you even educated? Clearly not. Yes, he should. It *is* rape. She consented to sex with a condom and this piece of shit wasn't clearly thinking of any repercussions to his actions.

Last Spring I wrote about a girl at Landing Strip who was stealthed in VIP by a customer. If you want to argue with her about how premeditated removing or tampering with condom is not rape, I can arrange that. Because that customer had his ass beat next time he came in and tried it with another dancer.
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winex
4 years ago
@WiffleWaffle - this is a serious subject, but "assault with a friendly weapon" is absolutely hilarious!
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Icey
4 years ago
Putting holes jn a condom with the intent of your sperm entering her is different from a condom accidentally breaking. The intent and lack of consent for said intent make it rape.
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doctorevil
4 years ago
I would be interested in knowing how UK law defines "rape." Typically rape is defined as nonconsensual penetration, however slight, of the vagina. Not saying that this isn't a heinous act, and I'm sure there are criminal laws that cover it, but it doesn't meet the traditional definition of rape since there was consent to penetration.
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
Women as a whole do not want any responsiblity and accountabilty for their risky behavior see wiffle waffles response.
and then theres guys like icey that support those beliefs.

If she wants you to use a rubber, dont drop the soap when you end up in the slammer
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twentyfive
4 years ago
It could be considered poisoning or maybe similar to intentional infection like the charge that would be brought against a person with aids that unknowingly infected another
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shadowcat
4 years ago
Rape in English law:

""Rape by deception" (or "by fraud")
The term "rape by deception" covers cases where sexual activity was procured by deceit, and the question of when deceit is substantial enough to mitigate consent. In English law, the basis for such claims is "very narrow", as ruled by the Court of Appeal in R v Linekar [1995] 3 All ER 69 73. Cases demonstrating the law on consent as set out in the 2003 Sexual Offences Act include R v Assange (aka Assange v Swedish Prosecution Authority)[Notes 1] (if consent was conditional on the use of the condom during intercourse, and the condition was deliberately disregarded, that was capable of amounting to rape),[5] R(F) v DPP (the sexual act was performed in a way that broke a condition agreed previously),[5] and R - v - McNally (deceit as to gender)"
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Icey
4 years ago
In the US it would be 3rd degree rape. They'd argue that the consent wasn't proper given that the victim gave consent to sex with a condom not sex with holes in a condom.
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whodey
4 years ago
If you think it isn't considered rape since she consented to sex with him, would you feel the same way if the next time you and a stripper agree to have sex she suddenly shoves a 10 inch dildo up your ass without asking? After all you gave her permission when you consented to sex right?
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rattdog
4 years ago
if that piece of shit was hiv infected he would have been charged with attempted murder.

no castration laws in that neck of the woods huh?
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Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
Bottom line, women need to stop giving men they dont like attention and masturbation (sex with condom). This interpretation of rape opens a can of worms too broad if you based it off of deception. For example are women always guilty of rape because they decieve men by using make up? Are you guilty of rape if you lie about your age or income?
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wallanon
4 years ago
What an idiot
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Icey
4 years ago
Saltynutz it's about sexual consent and deceptive means. For example a man is guilty of rape if he doesn't end up paying a prostitute the agreed upon amount.

Using deception of any kind can be considered sexual assault. But conviction greatly depends on the type of deception. Lying about a job might not do it but promising a job in exchange for sex with no intention to follow through does.

And of course women are convicted of rape but so few cases are reported. Just as men are unlikely to report being raped by other men.
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doctorevil
4 years ago
Shadow: You should have been a lawyer.
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