Shots Fired at Protest - One Dead

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sideshow_bob
Shots were fired at an Arizona protest. One protester dead after they rushed a guy who may have been there to defend a statue. It's not clear. VIdeo linked. It's not for the sensitive but I suspect you gents can handle it. https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/status…

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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
I rather not watch - I'm not one to stomach violence too-well (and why I'm not into UFC, and even boxing that much) - but this is what was probably bound to happen - these "protests" have served to create a wider-divide vs more-understanding - too-many of the protesters are interested in antagonizing and creating havoc - if you break the law and don't tolerate diversity of opinion, friction is gonna be increased not decreased.
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sideshow_bob
5 years ago
It's mostly just a mess of shaky video with people yelling and running. You can't really see anything directly.

All these stupid fucks calling for a civil war. We really don't want to go there. If you look at Bosnia or Lebanon, they're
just miserable, with random meaningless violence becoming a part of daily life for years.
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mark94
5 years ago
According to Twitter it’s Albuquerque and no one is dead.
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mark94
5 years ago
Apparently, the Governor has already read the mind of the gunman and determined that he is guilty. He has also decided the statue must be removed in the name of safety. No need for one of those messy “ investigations”. Grab a rope.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kob.com…
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mark94
5 years ago
There was a confrontation between those who supported the statue of the Spanish conquistador and native Americans who wanted it torn down. Police did not intervene as tensions mounted and the groups confronted each other. It was only after the shooting that nearby police got involved and arrested a group of men dressed in camouflage, described as militia members, but said they didn’t know if they were involved. A man in a blue shirt was attacked by the crowd, then fired on them. He was also arrested.

Separately today, Albuquerque will allow 911 operators to send an unarmed dispute resolution group to the scene of problems rather than police.

Sounds like political leaders are handling this perfectly. Not.

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yahtzee74
5 years ago
>All these stupid fucks calling for a civil war. We really don't want to go there. If you look at Bosnia or Lebanon,

Exactly. Do we really want to be like those stupid fucks in the Balkans and Middle East who are still holding grudges and fighting about shit that happened centuries ago? This is mostly the politicians fault for condoning arson and vandalism while denigrating the police.

And liberals painting the losers of those centuries old encounters as innocent victims. The truth is their ancestors would have done the same to Europeans if they could have because it was a brutal world at that time. Africans sold their own in to slavery, Indians used trade with Europeans to conquer other tribes before being conquered themselves, the Muslims almost conquered Europe twice and took European children as slaves for tribute. The Aztecs required human sacrifice as tribute. It's crazy and ridiculous to be fighting about this shit today.

>Sounds like political leaders are handling this perfectly. Not.

It got it's by the stupid Minn. mayor by immediately calling Floyd's death racism. There has to be more to signal racism besides just a confrontation between a white man and a black man. And in Floyd's case it wasn't even just white vs black because the police involved were multi-racial.

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mark94
5 years ago
In New Mexico, the police should have stepped in and separated the parties. That’s the way these things are handled. Instead, they allowed the sides to fight, stepping in only when someone was shot.

I’d like to know who ordered the police to allow the fight to break out, and why.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
Protesting is a vital constitutional right - but having groups of opposing views face each other a la Charlottesville a couple of years ago is bound to have poor outcomes.
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yahtzee74
5 years ago
papi, the weren't protesters, they were vandals. Democratic leaders have decided to allow certain protesters to break the law with impunity.
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skibum609
5 years ago
Democrats can literally do absolutely nothing right. Every city looking like some shithole foreign land filled with shitbags, is run by Democrats. These police shootings? Atlanta; Minneapolis; NYC; Chicago; Baltimore; all fucked up places run by Democrats.
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nickifree
5 years ago
Okay, put the brakes on the hyperbole. Things are bad, but it's not that bad. Not by a long shot.
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