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Presenting people who may be innocent, as though they are known to be guilty will result in lawsuits.

SJG

Hes not a cop hes not charging them with anything. Hes filming them engaging in prostitution. And yeah they can sue but lawsuits like that are expensive and the guy can legally film what he wants in public. And if theyre engaging in a crime they have no right to privacy.

If he is presenting it as though he knows them to be guilty, than that is slander.

Otherwise, I think the guy is just being an asshole, and people will respond to him.

SJG

That would be awesome!

PhatBoyHell is a troll created to impersonate IceyLoco.

It does not add value to the conversations to do such stuff.

SJG

Hes not making legal assumptions. Hes filming them with hookers

Hes not making legal assumptions. Hes filming them with hookers

All those reality TV shows that deal with cops and crime always give an admonision that people are to be presumed innocent.

And this applies to his "Johns" and the the "hookers" too.

SJG

Hes just filming what he sees.

Hes just filming what he sees.

The reality TV shows carry the admonition for a reason.

SJG

Its a disclaimer ....but people are free to see what is preaented

Does your program give the disclaimer that they have no evidence or conviction against any of the people pictured and that the show creators have no idea what anyone is doing?

How would you like it is if someone filmed you and then put it on TV?

SJG

Go through the site. He states who was charged whose charges were dropped etc. He films the obvious. I support people like that.

Even showing a video before the case was resolved could result in a lawsuit.

But after, well. Police should not be cooperating with him. And no I am not going to look at any videos or web site about this.

SJG

Lawsuits are expensive and for most theyd rather be quiet about tbings like this.

His videos help the police a lot.

And there are lawyers who would love to take that stuff on a contingency fee, and try to get a class action going.

And if police are cooperating, then the lawsuit will be even bigger.

SJG

But there hasn't been. And who is going to join a class action suit coz theyre a trick who has been caught on camera.

Cops can use the evidence theres no case

this too you support right Icee ?

Icey, one place where Liberals and Conservatives agree is in the Right to Privacy. And a TV company slandering people is a deep pocket.

Again, this why the reality shows make the strong disclaimer.

SJG

The guy is a private citizen recording illegal activity in public. Its perfectly legal

From the website:

“*Disclaimer: JohnTV takes no stance against, and supports the decriminalization of, 100% consensual, private and unorganized prostitution.”

So JohnTV then is total bullshit.

SJG

It's a guy who goes out on the stroll and films men with hookers. Puts it online on youtube and shares it with ghe police

If anyone has had their image shown on JohnTV, contact me and I will find you a good lawyer.

SJG

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They won't do it. That would increase the attention they get.

some will, they have to. So my lawyer finding offer still stands.

SJG

They'll have more to lose with the exposure the case qould get. Plus it would have a court docket. They would lose the case though

No they would not lose, this all played out in Canada, and the newspaper had to stop printing the list.

Anyone so humiliated contact me, I will find you a suitable lawyer.

IceyLoco, what is up, you jealous cause some guys are getting laid so easy, what?

SJG

Canada is a foreign country.

Im not jealous.

Paying hookers isn't about being able to get laid as much as it is about a bad sex life at home or the inability to get laid. Sometimes tbere are psychological priblems preventing them from having a normal sex life.

This cannot be a mental hospital nation. We should not interfere with consensual adult behavior unless there are clear and compelling reasons, not just differences in moralism. Prohibiting prostitution opens the door to all other types of thought policing.

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Solicitation is illegal regardless of the illicit trade

Solicitation into something illegal is illegal. But sex is not illegal, and giving someone money is not illegal. But our society still criminalizes prostitution, and that causes problems.

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Soliciting sex is illegal.

And men are free to visit legal vrothels in Nevada.

Soliciting Sex is illegal. I do not ever do that. I do not talk to women that way.

But others do.

But it only illegal because we outlaw prostitution. I hope we can eventually see how foolish this is and decriminalize.

And none of the decriminalization advocates see those Nevada Houses as any example to follow.

Why Icey to you care about criminalizing the behaviors of consenting adults? Why does this make any difference to you?

SJG

Solicitation means soliciting anything. From an unlicensed mechanic contractor dentist hooker etc

The NV model is the only viable one in the US tbus far

It's not about consensual sex.

Wow just wow

The NV model gives too much power to the House operators, and imposses draconian restrictions on the women. Those places are marginal as businesses.

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Any kind of legal prostitution in the US would mirror that. Look at the marijuana industry.

Street walking and free lance prostitution won't be legal due to regulation problems. Likewise legal regulated prostitution means more crackdowns on illegal prostitution

Well many prostitution advocates had wanted Legalization and Regulation. But today most such advocates just want decriminalization.

SJG

Decriminalizing prostitution still makes solicitation a crime. Decriminalization means making the women feel safe asking for help and public assistance.

We we decriminalize it we have to do it properly so that everything works out.

SJG

Decriminalization increases solicitation arrests

If we decriminalize properly then there will be no more arrests. This makes it safer for sex workers, and this is what Amnesty International has recommended.

SJG

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Its decriminalizing prostitution though. Not solicitation.

If we decriminalize, we want that to be effective. So we decriminalize and remove any other legal gotcha's.

We also should put some additional protections in for women.

SJG

It won't happen like that though. Solicitation applies to more than prostitution. Plus lewd behavior etc would still be illegal

Well lewd behavior only applies in pubic and retail spaces. It does not apply in a members only strip club.

But in any event, if we are going to change laws we will gather the best people to make sure we do a good job.

We may not want to allow lewd behavior on public side walks.

SJG

It does apply when yhe strip club becomes a front for prostitution

Strippers do prostitution because that is what lots of guys want. Why is it wrong for them to do that?

And anything which goes on in a strip club is lewd conduct anyway,.

SJG

Its illegal.

And its hookers working in strip clubs doing it not dancers

The concept "sex workers" was invented to unify them.

And most everything which goes on in a strip club is already arguably illegal.

But now many want decriminalization.

SJG

Most clubs uphold rules. Dancer isn't synonymous with hooker

"Sex Worker" was invented to collapse the difference and get the women to stand together.

Generally in dives, the management does not have much of a whip to crack. Older dancers, willing to give guys what they want, management just has to look the other way. All the really want is plausible deniability.

SJG

Not really not with legit businesses dancer isn't synonymous with hooker but yeah there arebdesperate women

But generally anyone who dances in a strip club is still stigmatized. So the Sex Worker movement in intended to unify.

In SF we have the Erotic Dancers Alliance.

SJG

Its very misleading and most dancers don't care much about said politics either way. More are offended at being lumped with hookers than support it

I think it depends on the kind of club.

In SF they have the "Erotic Dancer's Alliance".

They are bringing political consciousness to dancers who deliver mileage which is quite high. During the 90's some of the SF clubs have been described as "Orgy Clubs".

SJG

Groups like that don't represent most dancers. Theyre very niche groups. Dancing is very subsistence oriented. Girls don't think much past yheir current shift

Most of the SF girls are politically aware Erotic Dancers, Sex Workers.

Very different from the more conservative kicker bar oriented South Bay girls.

San Francisco is a trip just because of the so very eclectic girls.

SJG

I don't think so. Most just go to Reno to work once in a while jf they can. They care about $!

SF strippers are very politically aware.

https://www.nswp.org/timeline/event/the-…

Vegas is not the same sort of a place, more conservative politically.

SJG

^^^^ Who would you be doing this with?

SJG

Oh, you mean the camera man for John TV?

Right On, excellent idea!

SJG