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And to our right we have the teenage smack heads
To our left is some gun shots and a fucked up housing project
I forgot my pepper spray at home ugh but I'm.sure I'll b ok cuz evryone tlaked about how police cleaned the place up and how jts muchhhh better
Forgot my pepper spray at home but I feel like I'll be ok..lol..ppl talk about low income areas so much like its scary but I'm pretty sure as long as there is no serious violence in this place which I dont think there is I'll b fine
Forgot my pepper spray at home but I feel like I'll be ok..lol..ppl talk about low income areas so much like its scary but I'm pretty sure as long as there is no serious violence in this place which I dont think there is I'll b fine."
You don't need pepper spray, you're going to need a gun.
Anyway, today was interesting for me. I.would like to write about it but I'll do that if I have time. I had a conversation with a gangster..i made sure to make eye contact with him from far away first to.promote him to.come and.tlk to.me.which he did which I wanted him to do b/c I wanted to see how gangsters are like
Ultimately I saw families jut doing their business, one guy randomly telling me to get in.his car which didn't surprise me cuz I always do my homework amd the reviews for.that apartment said that guys will tell u randomly to.get In their cars cuz sex can.be bought in the area...but I wasn't scared cuz that's different than being forceful which he didn't do.. saw a group for ppl super fucking drunk or on drugs or both in parking lot of auto shop with one of the girls twerking ...made me think How do ppl even behave like this ..
Then saw a white girl whose face looked hard from drugs randomly nod to.this guy idk it was the first time I think I saw a real life ghetto prostitute like I wanted to.strike a convo with her sooo bad so I could further probe about her life / see what these old white women prostitutes on drugs are like just for five mins... .
I didn't get 2 to do there ..was too scared to go up to her and talk to her she looked kinda out of it or totally unapproachable with no expression. On her face or both...
Mom wasn't happy when I told her I went there lol...but apparently that wasn't the most ghetto area so next weekend after finals I want to go to a more ghetto area just to see wat it's like..
Just one or 2 more neighborhoods then I'm done ( with Austin lol..like if I go back to Dallas I'm gonna do the same thing just once )
K
Remember this though, what you see isn't endemic of the neighborhoods. The vast majority of the people are just doing the best they can with what they have....trying to make an honest living in a dishonest system.
No ome.is denying that many of them work.hard to make ends meet. But along with that comes a shitty behavior and culture, which results I'm things like cars frequently broken into (I.g. nonviolent theft) and girls constantly getting hollered at by me b on streets just for fucking glammimg up but not looming slutty all..
Sorry but poor people don't know any better.tjerr are many thst don't do this, but that doesbt chsnge the fact that what I said goes in in many low income neighborhoods soooo
I don't believe shitty behavior is class related though.
.yes it is the.fuck lmao? I JUST experienced it, and so have many other women who have been in low income neighborhoods across the country ..like everyone knows cat calling is a big thing In these areas ...
No one.is denying that many of them work.hard to make ends meet. But along with that comes a shitty behavior and culture, which results In things like cars frequently broken into (I.g. nonviolent theft but youre dumb if u dont think thats not an issue cuz no one wants their property damaged by other humans) and girls constantly getting hollered at by men on streets just for fucking glammimg up but not looking slutty all..
Sorry but poor people don't know any better.there are many thst don't do this, but that doesbt change the fact that what I said goes in in many low income neighborhoods soooo *************************
No one is free from sin icey . no one human is angel....but tell me.what is so bsd that goes on in wealthy communities ? Btw I'm talking about the average rich neighborhood (median income over 120k) not Hollywood ones cuz im.comparing it to the average poor neighborhood.
Yeah kids do.coke..ya domestic violence goes on. But that shot goes on everywhere , nothing new.
What you don't see in well eductaed neighborhoods is cat calling and property crime as being considered normal?
That's actually my main point ^
But you get crime, murders....etc. White collar crime hurts more people and impacts lives more negatively than a ghetto robbery.
2) btw..getting hit on in a rich mall is rare.....ppl.might look at u for.looking pretty even then people tend to look and not stare for LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
so um the extent to which you get "hit on" in a rich mall is signficantly lower in terms of the amount of people , as well ad length of interaction cuz no one fucking gawks at you. Compared to. street where getting hawked st is actually a thing, and where people.people cat call...again, cat calking is different than gettinh hit on.
Hitting on is saying hi to starting convo cux someone looks good.if that isn't the definition of hitting on then sorry, it doesnt occur in the malls you talk.about it. If it does, it is not the NORM, but it is in low imcome commumities
White crime by CEO'S. There's a reason I saif average upler middle class neighborhood..where many of.them arent CEO's lmao
What does that have to do with the fact that thr demogrpahics of people who ruin others people property = low income
Everyone wants to.protect their property...shirty even in my neighborhood no one is rich enough to.have security cameras or proper protection but u don't see theft as the regular lmao.
Looking at( but not gawking or staring ).cuz u look pretty /saying.hi when you are close to.them.without them.randomly approaching u from.FAR AWAY= not Cat calling , but maybe flirt...flirting isn't. Getting hit on or being cat called
No one says "Damn girl" from far away In the mall lmao
Hitting on= goes on in street as an actual NORM.
While guys in a wealthy financial district might whisper something sexy in a girls ear, the DISTINGUISHING FACTOR is that such a whisper is not THE NORM. IT IS NOT A Daily, REGULAR THING...it is rare . But it is a NORM OR REGULAR THING to have things said to u like that on street.
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Also, criminals will flock to where they can get away with crime, which usually equates to poor neighborhoods.
Look at gangs for example.... You can have a few square blocks with 500 people, they're unarmed civilians. Add 40 gang members with guns and its like an occupation style system. There are complex problems at work.
I wouldn't vilify the majority of the people, who just want to do the best they can given what they have.
They don't need to flock anywhere when they already live in the same neighborhoods which crimes are committed lol
I'm not vilifying them..but their culture which allows a significantly higher number of.people to drink/do drugs on the regular and cat call women
Like I said many of them are hardworking and don't do that but if you want to look at a culture , loom.at its norms.
But at the same we as a society might be responsible for perpetuating that culture as well by making it harder to move up but idk.
Cultural norms in poor areas are the same as anywhere... but certain behaviors are a product of social, economic and political alienation.
I'm not saying these are great places to live, but there are reasons as to why they are that way.
Yeah...cuz cat calling and damaging other.poor peoole's property and causing them to have to find the $$ that they dont have to compensate for recklessness is anyone but the perpetator's fault.
What do you mean. By:
A) social isolation ..and B) how do you find that to be a PROXIMAL CAUSE of the behaviors mentioned.
Not really
Oh really...we are going to ignore the very obvious and commonly known fact that the poorer that one area is, that generally correlated to more crimes occurring ?
Being alienated from mainstream society, geographically, socially, economically due to educational, linguistic etc barriers is a proximate(not proximal) cause of behaviors found outside of the mainstream. For example, its why ethnic or class based enclaves exist.
K. Still doesn't change the fact that property crime and cat calling occur significantly more in low.income.areas, which says a lot about the culture
damaging other's property doesn't make it vandalism..uhh, I never said it did.?
Property crime is a vague concept. It just means a crime committed to get something that serves as or provides a financial benefit to the perpetrator. Insurance fraud and securities fraud are property crimes just as stealing a car is.
While there are debates about should and should not be property crime , it doesnt change the fact that there are finite, specific number of offenses that fall under property crime.
to clarify that I was not talking about a vague concept but rather a specific criminal offense , I'll remind you that by" property crime " I was referring to cars being broken into on the daily.
I never denied that. Donald trump being wealthy doesn't change the fact that someone earing 250 k is still rich.
By the same obvious logic, the fact that they occur the most in tourist areas doenst change the fact they occur at statistically significant high rate in lower income areas compared to higher income areas
I never denied that. Donald trump being wealthy doesn't change the fact that someone earing 250 k is still rich.
By the same obvious logic, the fact that they occur the most in tourist areas doenst change the fact they occur at statistically significant high rate in lower income areas compared to higher income areas.
Yeah, we they people who have experienced living in such areas would know about them. And if you haven't experienced it, consider yourself lucky:)
They occur in areas where you have less policing, less garages and security cameras. Poverty itself doesn't correlate with crime however unemployment rates do. and the unemployed are more likely to be poor due to said unemployment
Sure it doesn't. I'm sure that is a logical statement to make when things like cars and apwrtments being broken into or stolen from occur at much higher rates than non impoverished areas, right ?
For instances , the lower income ciities in Austin where median income is 30 K have crime rates that are higher than the city's average, nd 97 % higher than national average.I can even paste the link.
Links don't matter. You can find anything to justify your points or refute them.
Oh yah. That's why it isnt just the areas...but Ut also that the perpetrators of these very crimes are of low income right ? Lmao
Links don't matter
No,but statistics that show the difference in crime rates are.
Austin is an example..same.pattern applies to other cities
Say opposing counsel represents a slumlord. The case is in San Francisco. The slumlord has been tried for slumlord shit in Chicago, fined by the city, etc. A judge can easily find all of that irrelevant to the case at hand in San Francisco.
So you admit that gangs essentially occupy neighborhoods?
Nicole is right that low income areas just have a lot more random crime that isn't always necessarily gang related. Violent and property. You can take a walk around my neighborhood at 2:00 in the morning and feel perfectly safe but there's no way in hell I'd do that in a ghetto area. Its irrational to let political correctness get in the way of taking reasonable measures to ensure your safety.
...that's why im not talking about slumlords In cases? If u wanna be irrelevant then just dont talk lol
https://www.houstontx.gov/antigang/image…
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A18W1H/gang-gr…
I think its probably just difficult to enforce those crimes though when you've got a neighborhood where somebody gets shot every week.
Umm no I had my own thoughts about the ghetto before j went. Llike I said..I wanted to see prostitutes and gangsters not to bring light to these thoughts bit just to see them up close OBJECTIVELY.
K.
@DC water do u think
@Estafador, I think Nicole is naive and lacks real world experience but she's not malicious...
@CC, Plenty of people outside at 2am in ghettos in 24 hour cities. They walk to and from work, public transportation, etc and are just fine. Your odds of getting shot by a cop or harassed by a security guard in a wealthy neighborhood are higher.
@Nicole, I gave you great advice. Take it more graciously. Your premise is that you went to a ghetto, was catcalled and saw ruined property. Therefore its dangerous and full of crime. Said property could have easily been in a state of disarray because owners didn't have funds to repair it, etc. Were the streets dirty? Were there public trash cans and or sweepers present? Does that reflect a lack of city resources in the area? Prostitutes and gangsters are just people....how do you propose they look differently that made you want to look at them up close? lol
The problem I'm reading is..... What do you really fear about the ghetto? What about the people makes them scary to you? How do you identify who you should or should not be afraid of in the ghetto?
Ummm no thats not my premise. I am not saying it is fully of crime because of what I saw..I never said I actually saw ruined property ? Lmao smh...twisting my words
I said they are full of crime bot because of anything.I saw but because THE RATES OF CRIME ARE HIGHER in part due to the number of incidents and arrests reported in low income vs middle class areas.
Lmao if you aren't citing official statistics , I wonder what your claims are based off of? Experice? Good cuz mine are too..Lmao..except I have stats in addition to that whereas you don't.
Oh really? Then copy and paste. My written communication that I said my statements were based on what I saw..
Cuz here is what I said in earlier in comment that show I was talking about reported crime :
No,but statistics that show the difference in crime rates are.( I also said I could provide links to the stats ).
What I said was based on stats confirmed by the people living there lol..those areas are known by everyone to have cars constantly broken into due to the testimonies of many ppl who have lived there.
And yeah..this is a context where stats would apply. Crime rates are an indicator of frequency /level of crime. Clearly you don't agree..so where are you getting your info.from? I wonder if it is more reliable than the crime rates that are consistent with the testimonies of people who have loved in those areas which is what mine is based on?
.no one said they are perfect, but if you think your sources are any better, where is your information coming from? Lmao
Nicole1995 would have walked through Tijuana completely naked with $100 bills taped to her body while wearing a Donald Trump mask.
No I think u are assuming that. First..how would they know I'm.an outsider and second that comment was assumimg that I gawk at them . I didn't stare at anyone besides the ppl I actually wanted to speak to which was like 2 ppl. I didn't stare at ppl lol
What security guards? My neighborhood doesn't have any. Even the absolute wealthiest one in this area doesn't have one.
Yeah but a lot of the people out at 2am in the ghetto are dangerous.
CC99. Most ghettos are pretty quiet at 2am. Just like any other neighborhood. In large cities, you have people coming and going to work at all hours though.
In LA, wealthier areas have private security patrols. And as far as I know, many places with homeowners' associations have them.
You've never been arbitrarily stopped by a cop at night, told you look like a suspect, been asked for your ID, then made to stand in front of a cop car with your hands behind your back, forced to stare into a spot light, while cops shout at you to relax, then to stand still, then to relax, then to spread your feet apart, then to not move, then to threaten you with resisting coz you moved???? Then fervently apologize after running your info? Must be nice if you haven't I've never had a gang member do that to me.... Most try to be very inconspicuous.
When you're afraid of your surroundings you put yourself in a mental prison.
I ask a third time. @Nicole, did you meet a prostitute? Did you meet a gangster?
Umm idk bout her. But even if I was wrong , prostitutes are known to be living there according 2 residents
A judge would throw your argument out as premature disclosure if you can't link evidence from your experience, your witnesses and your documents
I never said they were related.
If you recant, you have no argument and admit to not really saying anything at all on the topic at hand then. lulz
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Michelle Alexander on The New Jim Crow, at Union Theological Seminary ( she wrote a very important book )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79I1PLT…
Paul Tillich Symposium: John Caputo Lecture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cog1v44W…
But it would not be just for poor people, it would be for who ever wants to live there. And it would have distinct advantages, right on the rail public transit lines, and with most every kind of service on the lower floors.
Should be able to compete slum lords down, rather than apply rent control. Lots of good jobs too. More ecologically sound too, because its built for public transit, and all the services. Should be an all around good deal.
SJG
Michelle Alexander on The New Jim Crow, at Union Theological Seminary ( she wrote a very important book )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79I1PLT…
Paul Tillich Symposium: John Caputo Lecture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cog1v44W…
@nidan I did..the gangster was a dealer too
SJG
https://www.amazon.com/Crow-After-Roe-Se…
The End of Roe v. Wade: Inside the Right's Plan to Destroy Legal Abortion
https://www.amazon.com/End-Roe-v-Wade-Ab…
Protect our Reproductive Rights!
https://www.prochoiceamerica.org/
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The attacks on reproductive rights just stems for the Christian radicalization of the Republican Party
Well that alone is bad enough.
Reproductive choice has been a very hard fought gain, and it must be defended at any and all costs.
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Any dumbass can think something was implied when it was not.
SJG that's law though, Roe Vs Wade and related decisions make it legal on a Federal level. And states have the right to restrict abortions but not to outright outlaw them.
This is not statue law. It depends upon SCOTUS continuing to uphold Roe V Wade. And there are ways it could be weakened, and Trump has too Roe V Wade foes on the court. This is probably also about trying to influence the 2020 election.
Serious matter!
SJG
Richard Smoley, always good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N04WHX1N…
Sun, Sand, Prostitutes? Dominican Republic has legal prostitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FthM86ds…
Religious celibacy always was about remaining childfree. They just couched it as being about refraining from sex.
And today, being childfree, but sexually active, is the new version of religious celibacy.
SJG
But I am not going to passively wait and see.
AOC calls Alabama's abortion ban 'a brutal form of oppression'
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aoc-calls-ala…
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And so far, you have not given any evidence as to why you want to go outside the pleasure of seeing the experience of a ghetto resident. Even the title of this thread says only because your "curious".
Nice. I guess its good I wasn't being disruptive as I did not go on a fucking tour bus for this shit. How dumb.
Icey, Roe v Wade is a landmark court decision, reached by interpreting the constitution. But it is no federal statue law. Some justices will want to uphold it, but with others like this Brett Kavanaugh, not so sure.
Nicole, going on a tour bus to visit the slums?
I am all over San Jose regularly, and often by bicycle.
SJG
And I think Nicole's choice of words are very classist
And so far, you have not given any evidence as to why you want to go outside the pleasure of seeing the experience of a ghetto resident.”
Bingo
In CA it was like this, state legislature passed such a bill, signed into law by Ronald Reagan, 1969.
But at the Federal level it has only been attacks on abortion rights. We only have Roe V Wade because the Earl Warren led court found such rights in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 14th amendments.
And the case that made it to SCOTUS was because Wade was the Texas AG and he was an extremist and had shut down all the abortion providers.
With Ann Richards and Molly Ivins, Texas has given us some very strong women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Wedd…
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Brown v Board was 9 to 0, because the justices knew that there would be extreme resistance, so they wanted to make sure that know one every thought there would be a chance of challenging it.
But Roe v Wade was just 7 to 2. And it has been a specific objective of the Christian Right to load the court with justices who will over turn Roe.
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