Wanting to regulate and crack down on Marijuana

refer madness hysteria is still around.

the stuff brings in the $$$$$$ for governments & municipalities to waste without accountability, so don't worry - the ganja ain't going away.

Its always about control with progressives, who pretend to be open minded and diverse and yet cannot tolerate any deviastion from their retarded "norm", any independant thought and all think with one tiny, low IQ brain. We need more wildfires, earthquakes and snow in California, preferrably every day for 2 years.

Purple dress Donna smokes weed. That’s why the sleepy time rapist is so sensitive about the subject.

I wouldn't say it's just the progressives on this front. Politicians all over the spectrum like control. That's the problem...either they want to tell you what you can and can't say or do and can't do and forget about the Constitution that limits their abilitity to do any of that. Too many voters forget that and allow these shitheads to make laws that should never exist in the States. The religious right is all about laws that limit people based on their sense of morality. The left does it for power. Only a couple of Libertarians have ever done or said anything about lessening government power over the citizens. It's too bad that people will sacrifice their own freedom just to save others from themselves.

If it were up to me...just about everything would be legal and people would have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Get lung cancer from smoking...pay for your treatments or I guess you die from it. The government should only step in when one person's actions start to impede on the freedom of others.

If I lived in Mississippi I would despise conservatives. I live in the bluest blue area so I despise progressives.

People aren't talking about re-criminalizing. That had never worked very well. But many want not to license any dispensaries within their cites. Compelling stories about people who's lives have been completely taken over by marijuana.

SJG

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What's your alter ego san_jose_gay's perspective on this issue?
He always made more sense than you and was much more fun to read. At least I never passed over his comments like I do most of your incessant ramblings.

Legal weed is just a hand out to tobacco and alcohol distribution companies. The higher penalties for weed dealers are ridiculous...just because the "legal" dealers hate competition.

There are also issues with the quality of weed, the way its grown, gmos, etc. Its crazy.

I have a funny story about a dispensary next to a fried chicken place, but won't post it here coz of possible misinterpretation and racism.

You don't agree that marijuana is a negative factor in the lives of many juveniles?

SJG

Regulating it is exactly what legalization does. Criminalization is handing the regulations over to criminals and decriminalization means no regulation whatsoever.

Weed is a distraction from reality like any drug.

Decriminalization is complicated. It doesn't mean a free for all. With drugs it takes the user and makes them a victim in need of social and medical intervention. The dealer etc is still a criminal.

Criminalization means both the user and provider are criminals

Legalization allows a certain economic sector to bank off of it

What we have nos in CA is legalization. But there is still wiggle room. Some muni's want to not have any sales places. Most of those arguing for sales places are basing their argument on tax revenues, and the money is substantial. Most of those arguing against legalized distribution centers are basing their arguments on the effects marijuana has had on juveniles, and also on the effects that such places might have on their businesses. One guy manufactures surgical robotics.

But it seems now that the legal sales places are able to do deliveries anywhere in the state. And then there also is still a black market.

SJG

I think the main problem with California's legalization, is the increase in crackdowns and arrests when it comes to marijuana dealers and people growing their own plants. Increased penalties and increased criminalization for something that shouldn't be such a harsh crime. But it shows the link between the corporate world, government and law enforcement. Laws are enforced when it benefits the private sector.... Meanwhile, California faces a meth epidemic that's pretty much unchecked. But lets get all the illegal weed off the streets to benefit the tobacco and alcohol distributors controlling the legal marijuana trade....

^^^^^ All good points.

They could back off on the underground marijuana dealers and home plant growers. While still doing what they think best with the legal distributors.

A lot of this does have to do with commercial interests, and local governments act just like commercial interests.

SJG

Top selling Girl scout cookie seller two years ago set up a table outside the dispensary..... She sold a shitload.... When my kids were selling they sold like 1500 boxes each which got them in the presidents club. That girl sold over 60,000 boxes outside the dispensary

Another huge problem coming up is all the kids that claim they need it and sign up for a medical card.... fast forward 20 years when they are applying for insurance and that shows up on their medical history. You would rather have a drug conviction than that on your record

Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are inspired by the Hitler Youth. I've explained this to some of the adults at the cooking selling tables.

SJG

In CA we don't have the medical cards anymore. And those never were for kids.

SJG

Meth really does hurt people. Some say the meth capital is Oklahoma City. But others say it is Fresno CA.

It is everywhere.

SJG

SJG,

Kids to me is anyone under 25.

I'm sure you did talk to the parents at the cookie booth, I always hated that, 5 potential buyers would walk by while you lectured the parents. Waste of their time, your time, and the kids time..... why can you not keep your opinions to yourself, not every person needs to know what an uneducated, inexperienced, asshole thinks about the way they live their life and raise their kids

I did it politely and when no buyers were around.

But "their kids" cannot be taken literally.

SJG

The prison industrial complex is a huge problem.... And southern cities like Bakersfield and Victorville, San Bernardino, are really affected by meth. I know Bakersfield is really bad

^^^^ Thanks for that info. I know some of those places are populated by some pretty hard living people, the oil rigs and all.

And yes, our prision industrial complex is a very big problem.

I now do feel that it would be right to lighten up on the underground marijuana dealers. The reasons for cracking down on them are not good.

SJG

The problem with drugs is that we need to address the social factors leading to drug epidemics. From every angle, what economic and social scenarios push one person to sell drugs and another to consumer. Prison doesn't help. Addressing social problems does.

^^^^^^ words of wisdom!

No shit, I'm impressed!

SJG

Thanks. It's true though. Programs like homeboy industries for example do more to stop gang violence than injunction s and broken window policing ever can.

Give people something to live for and they'll be productive members of society

Thanks. It's true though. Programs like homeboy industries for example do more to stop gang violence than injunction s and broken window policing ever can.

Give people something to live for and they'll be productive members of society

^^^^^^ Very true!

had to deal with broken window type policing here too. Some people think that way, especially the real estate industry.

SJG

Yeah, when gentrification comes into play.

For over about 1/2 of our elected office holders, continuing gentrification is THE issue.

SJG

Developers pretty much bought CA. Look at the last election when rent control measures were defeated. Thats all thanks to developer money.

Real Estate has always been the number 1 scam!

Bogus Gold Rush, just to get more Anglo's here, to out vote Latinos and petition for statehood, just to open the door to real estate profiteering.

SJG

Everything before local governments is always at core about real estate prices.

SJG

Essentially, history repeating itself. That's why gentrification is just a phase of internal colonization.

"internal colonization"

Well chosen words. And essentially the same as what Marx and Engels were saying in 1848.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdYLRTGm…

They are saying that the French Revolution did not go far enough. It left the bourgeoisie in charge.

People have been trying to remedy that ever since, but mostly they haven't known how.

I think the time is now, and people know how, I know how.

SJG

I think we're slowly getting there. People are seeing that the current system is unsustainable. The minimum we're headed for is a social market like European capitalism...

I don't know why I skimmed this threadI had my best laugh today reading this quote from SJG....

"Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are inspired by the Hitler Youth. I've explained this to some of the adults at the cooking selling tables."

That shit is comedy gold lolol

But did you buy any Waffenwafers?

The Hitler Youth was modeled on the Boy Scouts....

The boy scouts don't demand loyalty to dictator retard. The concept of nation and your contribution to it is only foreign to a parasitic loser like yourself. Why am I even responding to you...

Upright, you sound like someone who is recruiting for the Hitler Youth.

SJG

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Alex Berenson has also written against Marijuana.