RE: Beginner's Guide to Paradise (aka Tijuana)
san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=562…
Thanks urfi for your article, and thanks for your practical advice about how dangerous the US can be, and about how to do things in Tijuana.
I have not been there yet. But I will be, and it won't be sex tourism, it won't even be consumer recreation. It will be the beginning of developing a business presence across the border. And where better to start meeting some locals, than The Zona!
Dr. F's article is indeed awesome.
Your article included "Street Girls: 400-500 pesos for sex with clothes and LFK, 300 pesos without kissing ."
I want to discuss this a bit. The Street Girls do hold much appeal, mostly because they are likely the most free of the agents operating. They are the least likely to be beholden to anyone like a strip club operator. Also, the chances are greater that they live locally, opening the door to regular visits.
The girls may of may not have the looks of those who dance in the clubs. But there is a bigger issue here.
The way things go in the session room are primarily determined by what happens in the front room, the selections area. Same in TJ as it is everywhere.
So if a girl wants to makeout with you she will, but you cannot talk her into it, negotiate her into it, or pay her to do it. Even if she agrees, if she does not want to, what happens will be a frustration.
So they way to make it happen is just to fraternize and set the mood, and then just kiss her. I first learned this in AMPs. Kissing is not at all standard, and some times girls are completely disarmed by it. But when it works, the ensuing FS will be mind blowing for both parties.
So the HK and the other TJ clubs are renowned for this, for girls who encourage DFKing, for girls who lead with it, and for girls who give a guy very little choice in the matter.
So the sidewalk is not the same situation. Sounds like there are limits, and there are fake cops who cause problems.
So if you want to get real GFE with a street girl, it sounds like there needs to be some other way. Do the street girls also go into any bars or such? Paying her of course you could try to take her into some bar or restaurant. Like say you were checked into the Cascadas. You could take her into LC, dance with her and fraternize. People say there is more DFKing which is standard in LC and BT than there is in HK. Then if you want to spend a long time with her, like maybe TLN, you could take her to the restaurant, and then proceed to your hotel suite. Seems like that should work.
It is not the simplest or lowest cost approach, but the sidewalk has limitations. The girls might not have the looks of the bar girls, and they might not wear as little. But a bigger factor is just that the sidewalk is not as conducive to preliminary friendliness. So one has to find ways to change the script a bit.
SJG
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9620…
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3680/9633…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5339/96175…
Derek and the Dominos: Let It Rain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDSN_XK…
Thanks urfi for your article, and thanks for your practical advice about how dangerous the US can be, and about how to do things in Tijuana.
I have not been there yet. But I will be, and it won't be sex tourism, it won't even be consumer recreation. It will be the beginning of developing a business presence across the border. And where better to start meeting some locals, than The Zona!
Dr. F's article is indeed awesome.
Your article included "Street Girls: 400-500 pesos for sex with clothes and LFK, 300 pesos without kissing ."
I want to discuss this a bit. The Street Girls do hold much appeal, mostly because they are likely the most free of the agents operating. They are the least likely to be beholden to anyone like a strip club operator. Also, the chances are greater that they live locally, opening the door to regular visits.
The girls may of may not have the looks of those who dance in the clubs. But there is a bigger issue here.
The way things go in the session room are primarily determined by what happens in the front room, the selections area. Same in TJ as it is everywhere.
So if a girl wants to makeout with you she will, but you cannot talk her into it, negotiate her into it, or pay her to do it. Even if she agrees, if she does not want to, what happens will be a frustration.
So they way to make it happen is just to fraternize and set the mood, and then just kiss her. I first learned this in AMPs. Kissing is not at all standard, and some times girls are completely disarmed by it. But when it works, the ensuing FS will be mind blowing for both parties.
So the HK and the other TJ clubs are renowned for this, for girls who encourage DFKing, for girls who lead with it, and for girls who give a guy very little choice in the matter.
So the sidewalk is not the same situation. Sounds like there are limits, and there are fake cops who cause problems.
So if you want to get real GFE with a street girl, it sounds like there needs to be some other way. Do the street girls also go into any bars or such? Paying her of course you could try to take her into some bar or restaurant. Like say you were checked into the Cascadas. You could take her into LC, dance with her and fraternize. People say there is more DFKing which is standard in LC and BT than there is in HK. Then if you want to spend a long time with her, like maybe TLN, you could take her to the restaurant, and then proceed to your hotel suite. Seems like that should work.
It is not the simplest or lowest cost approach, but the sidewalk has limitations. The girls might not have the looks of the bar girls, and they might not wear as little. But a bigger factor is just that the sidewalk is not as conducive to preliminary friendliness. So one has to find ways to change the script a bit.
SJG
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9620…
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3680/9633…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5339/96175…
Derek and the Dominos: Let It Rain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDSN_XK…
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Converting the girl to HK bar service, takes time and money. But as an independent, likely living locally, the Street Girl could be worth the extra investment.
SJG
Try and talk on the sidewalk, introduce yourself and tell her everything she would want to know, and be prepared to follow up with a business card, try to find out where she lives, gauge her situation. Find out if she has eaten yet.
Then if she is throwing out prices, hand her the money and say, "I'm taking you to lunch" or "I'm talking you to LC so that we can get to know each other."
If she is not otherwise obligated, you may well end up waking up with her the next morning.
SJG
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/9632…
Then hand her whatever money she's been quoting you, and say, "Let me take you into LC, so that we can get to know each other."
You can also make up ways to just hand her money out on the sidewalk, like a front room tip, but without making it look like you are trying to low bid a session.
For me, I would tell her how I like her high heels, and how I know she has expenses, and then just hand her like maybe $20 in Pesos. But I would not want her to think that that obligates her to anything or is a low bid.
That way I am also paving the way for keeping her in high heels and make up for photo sessions and intense TLN's.
Just because the girl talks to you in hooker manner, that does not mean that you also have to talk to her that way. But the more forward she is, the more you can try to make it go your way.
Select the girl you want to be waking up in the mornings with regularly.
SJG
I have a question for you tijuana guys: Anything going on during the day. Asking for a friend (ha ha! fuck you assholes) who is planning to head over there during the daytime. Is it even worth going to the clubs then?
Annexing territory from Mexico was just a bid to have more territory to expand slavery into.
SJG
It starts with the front room makeout sessions.
SJG
SJG
Humble Pie, Catfish Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryf08xeP…
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bwkst8Xg9AY/maxre…
you can click on the pictures to see more:
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/home/
Priced a bit high, but many girls do TLN, and some specialize in TLN.
TJA people recommend this for newbies. I would not do it though. Meeting the girl, preliminaries, and then getting her dressed and painted up just like you first spotted her, is part of the fun. And then after, seeing her away from the Zona and all, not easy to do with escort service.
But one girl lives in Mexicali and is only in TJ a few nights a week, and she specialized in TLN. So probably you could get her separted from the house, in Mexicali.
But look at this, something new and rare, a Fiesta event at a bar, just outside the zona, meet the girls and available for TLN.
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/fiesta/
And something about a "banana event" ?
That would be the way to engage with them, f2f.
Anyway, the reason I mention this is mainly the hotel list, good escort friendly hotels, just outside of the Zona. Rates tend to be better, and certainly quieter and more laid back.
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/tijuana-ho…
You can look these up, their web sites, and Street View.
SJG
The bars make it easier, girls quickly going to DFKing right where ever you and she first engaged. Street not conducive to that.
But still, with time, selecting a day time street girl, making it go best as possible, but taking what ever happens, and with repeat visits, everything should still work out. Street girls more likely to live locally, more independent, better for regular visits by appointment.
But bars are better for fast excellent results, and not just HK Bar, many of them.
SJG
Chicago Club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuUSPcmq…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuUSPcmq…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUeYtWPE…
HK Bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdaWjCN…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XARgc5Um…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOrtMIK…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3_CMDa…
Best Blues Rock Songs Ever
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Free Lay, no i would not expect that. Mexico is a third world country.
I do believe that it could be possible to be seeing the girl free lance, in some cases. But overall easier with Bar Girls and Street Girls to be seeing them freelance. I would not try to get TJ girls off of the clock.
Motels
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/tijuana-ho…
Mexico Lindo Girls
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/home/
Lea is in Mexicali, only in TJ for Saturday nights, and prefers TLN.
Angeles is pregnant
a lot of their girls are TLN prefering. I'm sure they're real nice. Lots of people right good stuff about them.
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/overnight-…
Fiesta where you can meet them F2F, but they really only want TLN.
http://www.mexicolindobar.com/fiesta/
Meeting escorts f2f in a non-committal way is real neat.
TJA people recommend MLB for newbies. I still would not do this though. Selecting the girl in a non-committal venue, like a bar, and getting to know her, and that preliminary makeout session, and getting to have her dressed and painted up just as you originally found her are some of the best parts.
SJG
went quickly for the kiss and cock grab.
https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=25883
And the most interesting reviews about US clubs say very similar things.
SJG