I visited Follies for the 4th time within the past 2 weeks. Within that time frame only one girl had asked me to go back to VIP with her. I asked is it worth it? she stated "i'll make you cum". Now she requested $200 for the experience but I am curious as to why none of the other girls asked or tried to up sell me to VIP. Is VIP seen as a badge of dishonor?
Whats your thoughts on VIP and whats the percentage of girls in Follies that does extra in your opinion??
I've not been to Follies, but it's my understanding that anything can be had for 150-200 in the VIP from pretty much any girl.
Absolutely fucking worth it :) The first time in VIP the girl asked if I brought a protection, I said no, so she went and got one for me....
Worth it. Like GoVikings said, I went 5 more times that day.
DONT DO IT !!!!
Follies pays ppl to post reviews !!!
It's a scam
You've been told
^^juice stop being dumb
That's my experience too at Follies, many girls don't push VIP. But if you ask, the majority aim to please.
JS69 is on the money. It helps if you know how to make the right conversation and "moves"
VIP/extras is not an exact science at most clubs - i.e. figuring out which girls do and which girls don't and how to go about it.
First of all one can't be shy in a strip-club and think one will "offend a lady" by asking for sex in VIP - these girls get nude and allow strangers to grope them - so one it's not dealing w/ a local PTA meeting - strip-clubs are about sex and $$$.
It's only natural for a custy to get aroused with a full-nude woman grinding on him and one groping on them - that is the nature of the process - dancers are supposed to get a custy sexually aroused so he'll want to spend $$$ - i.e. dancers know the custies will get sexually aroused and ask for sex; it's par of the course; they are used to-it and are often asked and they understand the deal; particularly in a club where extras occur.
It is your $$$ you are spending in a strip-club so best to take control of the situation and try and get what you would like from your $$$ rather than expecting/hoping the dancers will give you exactly what you want; more often than not dancers rather do as little as possible to get as much of your $$$ as possible so a custy has to be his best/own agent.
Open ended questions, "will it be worth it"; etc; will often get mixed-results - in business it's best to be direct and strip-clubs are primarily about business and everyone trying to get their pound of fle$h all the way down to the bathroom troll.
Everyone may have a particular way they go about VIP/extras; my M.O. is:
I'll get some dances from her and see how freaky she is or how receptive she is to my "affections"/wandering-hands; if the dance is low-mileage and she does not like being groped (titties played with, etc) and her grinding is light to low grinding vs good-grinding; i will get the impression she is a dud in VIP although not saying this is 100% foolproof
fi she's naughty w/ her dances I'll whipser in her ear and ask her if she does VIP - if she says yes then I'll tell her what I want - i.e. I may ask her if she sucks w/o a condom; and if she fucks
if she say yes then I don't ask how much - I already have an idea of the going-rate more or less and will make a fair offer that we are both comfortable with - i may go a little higher if I think she's worth-it or stick to my guns and willing to let her walk if she does not accept the offer I'm comfortable with
I will also let her know ahead of time that i do not pay till the end (only pay the room fee upfront) - the best I'll do is show her I have the $$$ but I pay at the end
This method may come across as crude but it's better to be to the point and they either do or they don't - and they won't get offended - this is not a prom or a dating-game - in certain strip-clubs one may be able to me more subtle but either way i tihnk it's best to lay the cards on the table - the dancers are not shy nor beat around the bush w.r.t. what they want ($$$) so neither should custies - too many times custies get pennies on the dollar b/c they don't know any better or are too "shy" to ask and the dancer walks away w/ all his $$$ and his left holding his dick in his hand.
I did not consider that sitting with Shadow may have played a part in the girls behavior. They must have figured I already knew the drill and didn't try to play me.
Yeah - shadowcat will def attract the right kind of girls and he knows which girls do and which girls don't.
Good advice I blew $900 over for visits and by far I could've gotten more mileage out of VIP. If I knew this upfront. I paid at least 4 girls more than $150 but will defiantly strategize better next time around. If anyone know of any black chicks level 8, 9 or 10 type chicks that go hard in.VIP let me know.
$150/chick? You do know dances are only $10 right? And if you wanna tip an extra $10 would suffice - maybe $20 tip if she goes way above & beyond.
thanks for those tips you gave above chulo
Yeah I was like getting 13 -15 dances at a time for the really nice ones. But I was geeking thou I admit it so the next time I will know the game. I wad tipping them like $20 bucks thou. One girl did however played me thou said she gave me 13 dances and I know it was less. I couldn't debate it. I just gave her the money and bounced.
2coolj5, what's the worst that could have happened? The worst is that you spend $200 and don't get much in the VIP. It sounds like you spent $900 over 4(?) visits so you were in the zone of $200 per visit anyway. But it also sounds like you weren't getting much.
Based on the reviews here there was little risk. Something brilliant would have happened! But I would have spent the $200 pretty much anywhere. It's not like $200 is serious money. In fact, it about what you're spending anyway. Just splurge and see if something brilliant happens! ;)
"... One girl did however played me thou said she gave me 13 dances and I know it was less. I couldn't debate it. I just gave her the money ..."
That's bound to happen in a club that:
it's not exactly upscale
where there are dozens and dozens of dancers thus more chance of running into ROBs
only $j10 dances so dancers may feel more apt to over-count to make $$$
I don't mind spending $$$ but hate getting ripped-off - thus why my M.O. is to tell a dancer to let me know every time she is starting a new song that way I can keep count and she knows I'm keeping count,
and BTW - just b/c one is upfront/proactive about asking for VIP (sex, BJ) does not necessarily mean one will score often or most of the time - just means one gives themselves a greater chance.
Earlier post was typed on my cell phone so hella mistakes. But I was rocking with three baddest black chicks I seen in there. When they started that mouthpiece they had me sprung. Next thing I know it's been over a hour of table dances.
Maybe I should sample then say I'm looking for VIP treatment? I got five numbers thou and I had each send me a pic so I.could remember who they were.
If they are giving your their # then I would think they play - although they sometimes just do-it to get regulars to come see them at the club and buy dances from them.
Subra and others make the point of just coming in clean and dressed decent-looking, I'm pretty playful with them, it really didn't seem like extras was a big deal to get.
But again I was sitting with Shadow so I'm sure I had more credibility going in than if I had been there alone. So pretty much knew I wasn't LE or a creeper I guess.
I don't know, as I've never done it. But from what I've heard, it's definitely worth it.
I can't speak for GACA, but I'd bet he'd say it's worth based on the fact that he did 6 (SIX) VIPs in ONE visit
Who can blame him, tho? Follies is awesome. I'm gonna be doing my first VIP there in a couple weeks and I can't wait!