Ban on stripper pasties could drive exotic dancers out of San Antonio
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SAN ANTONIO -- A new ruling means exotic dancers in San Antonio will have to wear bikini tops. And a local lingerie shop operator says that's going to mean less money for dancers who are struggling to make ends meet.
Carrie owns Secrets Boutique on Wurzbach Parkway, and she says making dancers wear bikinis on stage will mean less money in their paychecks.
Carrie has dressed local erotic dancers since 1983, and she said the city's law that bans pasties will harm the local industry and have a snowball effect on tax revenue from liquor sales.
"[Those are] the taxes that we need for our schools," Carrie said.
Another dancer asked why customers would want to see someone dancing in a bikini.
"Why do they want to go to a strip club to see a girl in a bikini when they can go to the pool to see that?" she said.
She's drowning in debt and fears the law will break her. She's considering fleeing to Dallas or Austin to dance for dollars.
"A lot of people are just going to relocate," she said.
But the city says covering up will help curb crime and violence spawned by sexually oriented businesses. The clubs fought back and sought an injunction to stop enforcement of the rules.
"The city's goal of lowering crime all sounds magnificent," said Jame Deegear, a local attorney who has represented local strip clubs in past battles with the city.
"Today, it's pasties," Deegear said. "Tomorrow, it's burkas."
"These girls are using this money to put themselves through school," Carrie said. "Your bartenders are going to be affected, your waiters are going to be affected, and your deejays."
On Monday, a U.S. District Court judge sided with the city by denying the request of local strip clubs to prohibit the city's enforcement.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/business/205622…
Carrie owns Secrets Boutique on Wurzbach Parkway, and she says making dancers wear bikinis on stage will mean less money in their paychecks.
Carrie has dressed local erotic dancers since 1983, and she said the city's law that bans pasties will harm the local industry and have a snowball effect on tax revenue from liquor sales.
"[Those are] the taxes that we need for our schools," Carrie said.
Another dancer asked why customers would want to see someone dancing in a bikini.
"Why do they want to go to a strip club to see a girl in a bikini when they can go to the pool to see that?" she said.
She's drowning in debt and fears the law will break her. She's considering fleeing to Dallas or Austin to dance for dollars.
"A lot of people are just going to relocate," she said.
But the city says covering up will help curb crime and violence spawned by sexually oriented businesses. The clubs fought back and sought an injunction to stop enforcement of the rules.
"The city's goal of lowering crime all sounds magnificent," said Jame Deegear, a local attorney who has represented local strip clubs in past battles with the city.
"Today, it's pasties," Deegear said. "Tomorrow, it's burkas."
"These girls are using this money to put themselves through school," Carrie said. "Your bartenders are going to be affected, your waiters are going to be affected, and your deejays."
On Monday, a U.S. District Court judge sided with the city by denying the request of local strip clubs to prohibit the city's enforcement.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/business/205622…
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e.g.
+ Memphis
+ Arlington, TX (small city that used to have 10+ SCs b/f I left the Dallas area ~3 years ago – the SC closures have been attributed to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones after he opened the new stadium in Arlington – I think there is only 1 or 2 SCs still alive but probably closing at some point IMO)
+ Seattle
+ Houston (dancers having to wear pasties now)
Etc.
If persons like Tiredtraveler or crazyjoe dislike the efforts of these people, that won't change things. Use the ballot and vote them out at the next election. If the morality police are NOT elected officials, MAKE damned sure you vote in persons who agree with your stance on morality.
Bellyaching on TUSCL won't save a Club.
says imam alucard. in his islamo world there would be no guns, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking, no murdercycles, no rap, no blondes, no ballot boxes,no freedom and women wouldn’t be whores but they would all provide bbbjcimnqns for $50 as is their purpose in life. ROTFLMFAO
Nope that is you DP!!!! And that's being EXTREMELY nice about describing you.
"says imam alucard. in his islamo world there would be no guns, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking, no murdercycles, no rap, no blondes, no ballot boxes,no freedom and women wouldn’t be whores but they would all provide bbbjcimnqns for $50 as is their purpose in life"
I'm not Islamic as much as you would LOVE for me to be in YOUR RACIST Hatred!
1. GUNS kill people & children, the less of them around & available the better because less people will be killed by them.
2. Drinking alcohol will NEGATIVELY impact your health and possibly kill some innocent person or child if a car driver is drunk.
3. Illicit drug use & dealings will VERY likely kill you or get another person killed.
4. Smoking will eventually kill you and the second hand smoke you produce will NEGATIVELY impact other people's health. In 30 years in the OR, I've seen up close how smoking DESTROYS Lungs. Just ask FireFighters about the effect of smoke on the lungs.
5. I won't get on a murdercycle if my life depended on it. Again in 30 years in the OR, I've seen TOO many broken & destroyed bodies after accidents involving murdercycle riders. Doesn't matter if you are theBEST motorcycle driver in the world. You will come out on the BAD end of an accident.
6. There is only 2 rap type songs I like. Otherwise I don't care to listen to it. It is too bad that it is played constantly in clubs. If you want to listen to it. That's your business.
7. I don't find Blondes attractive. I don't see how that fucking has anything to do with you.
8. I'm not against voting. Don't know where your pea sized brain thought that up.
9. The are items called LAWS & regulations which governments use to tell you things that you may not do and can do. You submit to these LAWS & regulations by choosing to be a citizen under the LAWS & regulations. You may question the authority, that is within your rights. BUT you are bound to obey the LAWS & regulations as long as you decide to be a citizen under the LAWS & regulations. If you choose to violate the LAWS & regulations, the government may decide to hold you accountable and hand down a punishment for your violation. IF you don't wish to submit yourself to these LAWS & regulations - then go elsewhere - that is a solution to any issue you might have with being governed by LAWS & regulations. Another solution is to CHANGE the LAWS & regulations. But again you MUST do that within the LAWS & regulations that govern changing LAWS & regulations. So there is NO such thing as "PERFECT" freedom. You are bound by LAWS!
10. I don't look upon dancers as whores or bitches or any other vile name you obviously see them as. Any sexual exchange between myself and a dancer is between two consenting adults. She has accepted an offer to perform a service & I agreed to a cost that was worked out between us FREELY, without any coercion. She is TOTALLY free to decline any offer I make as I am FREE to decline her idea of the cost of her services. Dancers are Humans trying to survive in an unforgiving world. I do not look down upon them as most of this forum seems to.
Based on your rants against me I believe you are an alias of another attack dog A.H. here on our most "Lovely" forum. Have the FUCKING BALLS to attack me using your REAL forum Handle. Why make up a new name?
we collectively want to help you but that means you can’t hide in the dark giggling while you fling your feces at random passersby. stupid can’t be fixed so we won’t be able to help you there but we want to help with your mental illness. it will take years to work through your clinical depression, paranoia, persecution complex and mommy issues. we will help you understand why you hate other men, why you hate women, why you hate yourself but it will mean lots of tuff luv.
first you will have to address something you referenced in your post. you talk about REAL and MADE UP names. before our next session think about this, ALUCARD is not REAL, ALUCARD doesn’t exist, ALUCARD was MADE UP by the lunatic in your head, YOU created ALUCARD.
smeagol or gollum your choice
you’re regressing. i’m not going to enable you by even looking to see how many more pm’s you sent. don’t slink back into your shit smeared cave. come out into the light. there isn’t any Star Dust [From Supernovas] to be afraid of out here. just the cleansing light of truth awaits. you don’t have to suffer with your mental illness any longer but YOU have to WANT to get well.
smeagol or gollum, which is it goin’ to be?
we are here for you buddy
no. no girl, he isn’t a vile creature. he’s just mentally ill
smeagol or gollum? gollum or smeagol?
we will ALWAYS be here for you little buckaroo
- yeah some activities carry high risk to person health, how does it follow from that they shouldn't be allowed to do it? Why does some get to choose what risk are and aren't acceptable choosing to live their life as they want?
- the whole part about the you must respect the laws stuff, um, the guy openly admits to purchasing sexual services from prostitutes in jurisdictions where it is illegal. So is his position really I'll obey laws I like, and ignore ones I don't? Not sure how he can claim any moral higher ground given that he is being just as idiosyncraticly selective in which laws he chooses to obey.
Don't fell like dissecting the whole rant but those were the two most glaring flaws in it. I'm sure there are at least a dozen others in there for anyone who feels like picking apart manure, however.
a) people who purchases sexual services from prostitutes have a greater risk of contracting STDs than others
b) because of a) the government is thus justified in making purchasing sex from prostitutes illegal, as it has in nearly all states in the US
c) since alutard openly admits to purchasing sexual services from prostitutes in states where it is illegal, he is not acting consistent with his claim "you need to obey the law or get out!", from this, alutard needs to be restricted to only purchasing sexual from services from those few parts of the US where it is legal ("shithole counties in Nevada" I believe was the way jester214 put it)
I think alutard slam dunked himself in demonstrated what a complete retard he was with his rant above. Normally he just states his beliefs without any elaboration, as if there were self-evident pontifications directly from god. Once he tries to back up his proclamations with actual reasoning, well lets just saying finding holes in his logic is about as challenging as finding holes in swiss cheese. :-)
- yeah some activities carry high risk to person health, how does it follow from that they shouldn't be allowed to do it? Why does some get to choose what risk are and aren't acceptable choosing to live their life as they want?
- the whole part about the you must respect the laws stuff, um, the guy openly admits to purchasing sexual services from prostitutes in jurisdictions where it is illegal. So is his position really I'll obey laws I like, and ignore ones I don't? Not sure how he can claim any moral higher ground given that he is being just as idiosyncraticly selective in which laws he chooses to obey.
Actually if you put all other alutard's reasoning together, you get the following conclusions (remember the following is all consequences of alutardian logic, not claiming I think any of it is legit):
a) people who purchases sexual services from prostitutes have a greater risk of contracting STDs than others
b) because of a) the government is thus justified in making purchasing sex from prostitutes illegal, as it has in nearly all states in the US
c) since alutard openly admits to purchasing sexual services from prostitutes in states where it is illegal, he is not acting consistent with his claim "you need to obey the law or get out!", from this, alutard needs to be restricted to only purchasing sexual from services from those few parts of the US where it is legal ("shithole counties in Nevada" I believe was the way jester214 put it)
Don't fell like dissecting the whole rant but those were the two most glaring flaws in it. I'm sure there are at least a dozen others in there for anyone who feels like picking apart manure, however.
It's actually fun to play around with alutardian logic some more. For example, since homosexuals have higher risks of contracting the very deadly STD known as HIV compared to hetrosexuals, alutard's logic leads to the conclusion that the government would be quite justified in making homosexuality illegal.
I think alutard slam dunked himself in demonstrated what a complete retard he was with his rant above. Normally he just states his beliefs without any elaboration, as if there were self-evident pontifications directly from god. Once he tries to back up his proclamations with actual reasoning, well lets just saying finding holes in his logic is about as challenging as finding holes in swiss cheese."
"Dougsterian LOGIC???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
No just pointless ranting as usual.
take it or leave it.
listen to me alucard. it is OK to be gay.
that was a lot to deal with in one session and frankly i need to get over the shock of your irish setter red hair experience before we talk any more about that. get some rest little spaceman