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natasha from the sundowner ..... i need to know more

i met this stunning woman named natasha at the sundowner in niagara falls a while back and i a had an amazing but innocent time with her as i was cash limited to 2 songs. i need to know about this girl and what she is willing to make available, there is nothing worse than spending all your time and hard earned dough on someone to realize they are not going to supply what you are looking for. you can send me a message if you don't want anyone to read it , just looking for honest experiences and what i can reasonably expect to get from her.i'm not in too often but want to make the most of it when i'm there. thanks a million

9 comments

  • vincemichaels
    13 years ago


    What can you expect from her? Stripper shit, heartache, and if you are lucky, you'll get a HJ or a BJ in the club.


  • samsung1
    13 years ago
    cash limited to 2 songs? don't they have an ATM or accept credit cards?
  • Dougster
    13 years ago
    Stalker!
  • areuup
    13 years ago
    don't care for the heartache meladrama shit just wondering if she will do otc or give a treat inside. samsung1, spent too much that night already its like gambling need to know your limit, dougster, seriously hope your joking bcause that isn't funny. i'm not some wacko looking for love just a good time and if she won't provide than i will move on
  • harrydave
    13 years ago
    Look, you're not buying a TV at Walmart. You're trying to convince a woman you hardly know to go someplace and have sex with you. You're going to have to invest some more time (and, obviously some more money) in the club with her. Then you're going to have to ask her if she will go outside the club with you. And the odds are, she will say no. Because you're treating her like a commodity, not a real person.
  • Rod8432
    13 years ago
    areuup - A little off-topic here, but I have a friendly monger-to-monger suggestion. Your lack of capitalization and minimal punctuation is making your posts hard to read. If you could write them more like a letter and less like a tweet or email, that would help me, and I'm sure others here.

    And on the subject of Natasha, there are some threads here on how/when to ask for OTC. Advice ranged from:

    1) Dispense with niceties and just make your intentions known (Such as saying, "Do you ever meet customers outside the club for some fun?" If she's an OTC kind of gal, then you'll get your answer about whether she'll do it with you and for how much, without drama or long-term detriment if you can't come to an agreement. If she's NOT an OTC gal, then you may run the risk of her becoming pissed, but again you'll know. My experience has been she'd simply say she doesn't do that, and there's no harm done. You can then decide if you want to continue your in-club activities with her.

    2) The other choice is to work her for a while in the club, buying dances, paying her the equivalent of a couple dances just to sit and talk, tipping her generously at the rail, guiding conversation to topics about her life outside the club, and otherwise doing whatever you can to become a non-ordinary regular - that is, a guy who she sees a often who's generous and not creepy, and starts to become set apart from the other PLs she hangs with when you're not there, and sometimes when you are.

    The problem with Option 2 is that you'll spend some serious bread over time, even if you're not dropping big bucks for the VIP. Just putting in time will help, but you'll be buying drinks, dances, and tipping out the wazoo to build a connection. Also, after you spend the beaucoup time/bucks and the time comes for you to make your suggestion for OTC, the stakes have become higher. If she thinks you played her all this time just in the end to push for OTC she may be super-pissed, like you betrayed your true intentions (especially if she doesn't see herself as "that kind of girl," e.g., she's a student who's just working for a while to get through school). If you'd regret losing the in-club rapport you have, then waiting to make your OTC desires known could backfire, which is why I'd recommend Option 1, unless you're shooting to make her a girlfriend, which is a whole other inadvisable can of worms, which other threads here address.

    You're smart to ask for advice, and because you're young, I'd say take what you hear from us and then have at it. You've got time on your side and you'll make some mistakes. And you may get lucky, although to vincemichael's point, you'll likely find the road from initial stripper attraction to something blissful on the outside can be long and full of potholes. Not to say it's not worth it - some here have made a virtual art of it - but I've found most of the issues fellow TUSCLers warn about are true. Just keep your expectations in line with that, and you'll be okay.
  • rickdugan
    13 years ago
    Wow harry, that was very sensitive of you. ;)

    are, you really need to write in complete sentences with caps included. As Rod said, you either need to be direct or entice her to make an offer through your ITC cash spending. But in all honesty, if this is simply an effort to bust a nut then there are many more efficient ways to get the job done, such as an AMP or escort.

    OTC with strippers is chancy at best and not a game for the lightly capitalized. ;)
  • Book Guy
    13 years ago
    "I need to know more." No you don't.

  • areuup
    13 years ago
    Thanks all for your advice, some more than others mind you. i was just looking for some honest feed back or experiences with this girl. sorry about not using proper grammer, who'd have thought it was so important.
    correct time is on my side, and no i wasn't planning on treating her like a commodity as you put it, but if there is no chance of getting anywhere why pursue it. i would equate it to geting a divorce or changing careers, not getting anywhere move on. thanks again
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